M104, A Double-Ringed Galaxy

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M104, A Double-Ringed Galaxy

Unread postby rnb » Sat May 02, 2009 7:45 am

M104, in the large-field view produced in Australia, shows a very interesting outer ring, perpendicular to the inner homopolar galactic ring. The lower loop of the ring is easily visible in the Australian wide-field view of M104, at the bottom of the galaxy. See: http://www.seds.org/messier/more/m104_deep.html

This is first perpendicular double-ringed galactic formation of which I am aware. Probably, this ring is the result of a large perpendicular magnetic flux which arises due to the electric current flowing through the homopolar ring which forms the most prominent visible portion of M104. Probably, this large magnetic flux acts to produce an ancillary electric flow, which then forms the stars which form the 2nd orthogonal ring, easily visible around M104. (This is from the basic physics of electromagnetism, where an E field always results in a B field, perpendicular to the E field.)

On the other hand, given the observable fact the the outer ring is not perfectly perpendicular to the inner homopolar ring of Sombrero Galaxy, some other explanation for the outer ring may eventually arise. But the basic B perpendicular to E, is still probably some part of the formational physical basis which produces this observation, with the angle of the outer ring, away from the perpendicular, being caused by some other means.

Why this outer ring has never been noticed before, and commented on, is beyond me, since the formation is quite obvious. It requires no imagination to easily see the loop at the bottom-right side of Sombrero Galaxy (M104), and then see a disk extending along that same 2D plane, above M104. Given this observation, more such perpendicular galactic rings should be noticed, assuming one is looking for them.

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Re: M104, A Double-Ringed Galaxy

Unread postby kmihara55 » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:08 am

messier.seds.org M104 wide-field image of nearly perpendicular ring
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Re: M104, A Double-Ringed Galaxy

Unread postby Steve Smith » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:32 am

Two For One

I don't see any evidence for another ring around the galaxy. What you're probably seeing is part of the globe of stars in which it's embedded. The Australian image is very poor.

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Re: M104, A Double-Ringed Galaxy

Unread postby rnboyd » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:25 am

Dear Steve,

I was suggesting that this is probably not a unique formation in the universe. On another topic, why is it that entire galaxies have overall colors which are vastly different from one another? If you look at Hubble deep field images, you can see galaxies with colors ranging from red to yellow to blue to white. One would think that they would all be nearly the same overall color, and mostly white. What is the agency responsible for coloring entire galaxies?


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