Is light magnetic?

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Is light magnetic?

Unread postby Irishslimz » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:10 pm

I've always thought a particle of light (a photon) is magnetic. Am I wrong? Doesn't that explain plenty of theories of quantum physic theories? I am just an layman, and sold on its a electrical driven universe.
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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby nick c » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:26 pm

Well, light is defined as an "electro-magnetic" wave.

And theory aside, you have this:
http://phys.org/news/2014-09-defying-ph ... field.html
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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby D_Archer » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:24 am

Irishslimz wrote:I've always thought a particle of light (a photon) is magnetic. Am I wrong? Doesn't that explain plenty of theories of quantum physic theories? I am just an layman, and sold on its a electrical driven universe.


Magnetism is light.

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Re: Is light magnetic?

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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby SleestackVII » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:09 am

For your consideration,


http://milesmathis.com/corona.pdf


To sum it up - magnetism is a direct physical effect of the spinning photon.
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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby A Chang » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:15 pm

I think there was a guy called Felix Ehrenhaft who worked with Einstein about 1930s, who proposed light is electromagnetic.
Because his idea was vastly different from Einstein's, he was isolated and erased.

Please share if you guys dig out more stuff....

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https://vimeo.com/78432849
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Ehrenhaft
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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby D_Archer » Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:26 am

A Chang wrote:I think there was a guy called Felix Ehrenhaft who worked with Einstein about 1930s, who proposed light is electromagnetic.
Because his idea was vastly different from Einstein's, he was isolated and erased.

Please share if you guys dig out more stuff....

A Chang

https://vimeo.com/78432849
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Ehrenhaft


Fascinating, a new name i never heard about before, and he had great conflicts with the status quo, and it seems Eherenhaft did the experiments and observations so my bet would be on him being closer to actual physics.

This was interesting from Wiki:
He became increasingly certain that he had observed magnetic monopoles, magnetic currents and magnetolysis, the disassociation of liquids by magnets rather than electric current as in electrolysis


This magnetic effect to liquids should be possible and repeatable in experiment.

Also interesting is that he measured actual sub electron charges, this should be photons (real photons as per Miles Mathis).

I think a flow of photons can also be seen as current, so if the E-Field and B-Field are basically driven by photons this would explain the experiments.

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link: http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby A Chang » Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:45 am

Thanks Daniel. Good find!
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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby Steve Smith » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:33 am

Photons are mythical entities, IMO:

http://www-3.unipv.it/fis/tamq/Anti-photon.pdf

It is high time to give up the use of the word "photon", and of a bad concept which will shortly be a century old. Radiation does not consist of particles, and the classical, i.e., non-quantum, limit of QTR is described by Maxwell's equations for the electromagnetic fields, which do not involve particles. Talking about radiation in terms of particles is like using such ubiquitous phrases as "You know" or "I mean" which are very much to be heard in some cultures. For a friend of Charlie Brown, it might serve as a kind of security blanket.
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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby A Chang » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:45 am

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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby Steve Smith » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:04 am

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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby seasmith » Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:54 pm

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Steve Smith » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:33 am

Photons are mythical entities, IMO:

http://www-3.unipv.it/fis/tamq/Anti-photon.pdf



Some very instructive history in the first half of that paper, thank you for posting it.
Did notice that, while disclaiming "photons" as an accurate description of "radiation", he doesn't defines "waves".

The modern trend in the literatures is to to resolve, everything measurable, down to 'density waves".
These "densities", are eventually reduced down further to densities of either intensity or mass, in the maths.
[densities of probabilities don't count, imho.]

Then, if one wends their way through the funhouse hall of mirrors called "Systems of Units", [e.g. SI];
the various detected field oscillatiions are finally resolved in to Densities of Charge.
Why not just start there ?

A lot of trees and electricity could be saved by merely viewing particle-or-wave through opposite ends of the micro/tele scope.

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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby seasmith » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:07 pm

density of states
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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby D_Archer » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:39 am

Steve Smith wrote:Photons are mythical entities, IMO:

http://www-3.unipv.it/fis/tamq/Anti-photon.pdf

It is high time to give up the use of the word "photon", and of a bad concept which will shortly be a century old. Radiation does not consist of particles, and the classical, i.e., non-quantum, limit of QTR is described by Maxwell's equations for the electromagnetic fields, which do not involve particles. Talking about radiation in terms of particles is like using such ubiquitous phrases as "You know" or "I mean" which are very much to be heard in some cultures. For a friend of Charlie Brown, it might serve as a kind of security blanket.


Sorry Steve but that is a ridiculous paper :x

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Re: Is light magnetic?

Unread postby +EyeOn-W-ANeed2Know » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:43 am



I'm surprised.
Not a single comment about how the beam is twisting like a BC.
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