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Re: Mercury Updates

Unread postby beekeeper » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:56 pm

someone once said "silence is a form of approval...?"
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The News Media's reporting of science stories

Unread postby Stephj » Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:32 am

Not sure if this is the right place in the forum to ask this question, as I'm new to the forum and there's such a vast amount of material here.

Almost every day I'm amazed, frustrated, surprised, dismayed, appalled and angered by the bland, unimaginative and outmoded explanations given to cosmological, astronomical and other scientific news stories. In my case its usually the BBC.

Is there any particular place in the forum where latest "space news" ie media reports is discussed? And can the electric universe community, represented by many of this forum's members give a concerted reply to the media concerned about the Orwellian way in which the public, but mainly children and young adults are drip-fed the obviously outdated and insufficient "official" line explanations?

I fell frustrated when I cannot counter the "conventional" explanations given by many so-called scientists who fraudulently collect their pay from us taxpayers.

Today, the BBC announced that the Messenger spacecraft has found 'hollows' "that indicate the loss of volatile material" (my highlight).

There is an excellent flyby video around what they used to call a "crater" which interestingly enough they are now calling a "hollow", perhaps because they are "shallow with irregular shapes".

Anyway, what I am asking, rather than discussing this particular news story here, is: Is there a place for just such news items on the forum?
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Re: The News Media's reporting of science stories

Unread postby Sparky » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:12 am

No...... ;)

You will find articles throughout the forums. If you wish to look at a particular thing, google that and use thunderbolts as domain and designate a time period. ;)
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Re: The News Media's reporting of science stories

Unread postby nick c » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:14 pm

Hi Stephj,
As Sparky said, news articles are scattered throughout the various forum boards depending on subject matter.
The news article to which you linked is concerning Mercury, so it probably should be merged to the Mercury Updates thread on the "Electric Universe - Planetary Science board."
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Mercury's surface - once an ocean of magma

Unread postby The Aten » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:16 am

Following on from my earlier prediction

Scientists solve the mystery of Mercury's surface - and say it was once covered in an ocean of magma ... -magma.htm

As alluded to many times throughout my research....

"I would further suggest Mercury's iron sulphide layer was created as a result of countless tons of mainly silicate based rock (origin, the mercury mars event) pummelling (battles) its planetary wide sea of virtual molten iron - this would also go some way to explaining mercury's relatively flat surface. Further research is required here though." ... 48&t=46965

"Pharaonic times saw the surfaces of Mars, Venus, Mercury and the Moon molten hot - incandescent orbs generating their own light (see Cobra)."

"This isn't to say other bodies didn't exhibit similar boiling traits - on the contrary, Mars, Mercury and the Moon, all at some point saw extreme temperatures liquidise their surfaces (I would strongly argue, as you would expect)."

Further ideas on our 'winged messenger.'

Mercury was once the solid iron core of Mars 'birthed' through the Valles Marineris during encounters with earth. It exhibits signs of vast oceans of magma as a result of being bombarded with countless tons of granitic rock shortly after its birth. It is essentially an iron ball with a relatively thin layer of rock that has remelted several times over and in doing so reacted with the subsurface iron. With this in mind, it will be found/confirmed that there are no typical cinder cone volcanoes such as those found on earth. Volcanism has taken place, but the apparent to date identified volcanic vents should be seen (analogy) more along the lines of bubbling lava pots or erupting mud volcanoes (possible caused by impacts). With vast plains of molten magma sloshing around on a metallic ball, heat is the key to understanding the somewhat odd physical characteristics of Mercury.

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Re: Mercury Updates

Unread postby seasmith » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:31 pm



Here's another one that doesn't make sense:


"'The crater's elliptical shape and the bright rays' butterfly pattern indicate that a very oblique impact produced the crater. The brightness of the rays indicate ..."

that the ejecta should be on the long axis of the elipse, yes ? ... fxbUODAZpo
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Re: Mercury Updates

Unread postby seasmith » Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:29 pm

Mercury’s Contraction Much Greater Than Thought


“New global imaging and topographic data from MESSENGER show that the innermost planet has contracted far more than previous estimates. The results are based on a global study of more than 5,900 geological landforms, such as curving cliff-like scarps and wrinkle ridges, that have resulted from the planet’s contraction as Mercury cooled. The findings, published online today in Nature Geoscience, are key to understanding the planet’s thermal, tectonic, and volcanic history, and the structure of its unusually large metallic core.

Perhaps it IS an interloper from far colder climes, as others have previously postulated.

And “large metallic core” [iron?] moving rapidly through the sun’s magnetic field, but Mercury itself has a very small magnetic field of its own, we are told.
Apparently Sol’s magnetic field (lines), at Mercury’s orbital radius, are fairly parallel to Mercury’s trajectory ?
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Re: Mercury Updates

Unread postby seasmith » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:11 pm

Magnetic Erosion ?

In the new work, astrophysicist Alexander Hubbard proposes one such model. "In the solar nebula, at the position that Mercury now occupies, the ambient magnetic field was surprisingly strong," he says. A narrow window exists in which the temperature is hot enough to support an amplified magnetic field – brought about by the differential rotation of the inner and outer parts of the protoplanetary disc – and yet cool enough to lie below iron's Curie temperature. Here, the field would have been sufficient to magnetically saturate the iron-rich grains, causing them to violently smash together. "These collisions could have knocked off the rocky bits of the dust grains, in a process we name 'magnetic erosion'," says Hubbard. "The ... ... ys-density
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Re: Mercury Updates

Unread postby seasmith » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:16 pm

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Re: Iron snow maintains Mercury's magnetic field!

Unread postby viscount aero » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:16 am

nick c wrote:I thought there was a Mercury thread here someplace, but I could not find it.
This article is another example of mainstream's tendency to come up with ad hoc explanations to account for anomalies.
In this case, they once again resort to the technique of postulating a process as taking place in the hidden interior where it cannot be disproven by observations.
Coloration my own.
The movement of this iron snow could be responsible for Mercury's mysterious magnetic field, say researchers from the University of Illinois and Case Western Reserve University.

They really are desperate!

Made mostly of iron, Mercury's core is also thought to contain sulfur, which lowers the melting point of iron and plays an important role in producing the planet's magnetic field.
This is stated as a fact, but the fact is:
we know very little about its core

"Our findings provide a new context into which forthcoming observational data from NASA's MESSENGER spacecraft can be placed, "Li said. "We can now connect the physical state of our innermost planet with the formation and evolution of terrestrial planets in general."

This means that papers will be published in professional journals with complex models described by elaborate mathematical calculations all leading to erroneous conclusions because they are based on an incorrect initial assumption.


LOL absolutely preposterous! Coming from a research facility!

"Our findings provide a new context into which forthcoming observational data from NASA's MESSENGER spacecraft can be placed, "Li said. "We can now connect the physical state of our innermost planet with the formation and evolution of terrestrial planets in general."

"Our findings..." LOL!

Their findings? Findings of what?! This is not science they are talking about. They are inventing leprechauns as their new context :lol: And they suddenly make the giant leap to "...formation and evolution of terrestrial planets in general" based on a leprechaun idea of Mecury's core with iron snow? :lol: :lol:
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Water ice found

Unread postby Frantic » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:01 pm

Nasa found water ice on mercury. Water ice, which has been deposited recently is found in permanently shadowed craters at the poles. To me this indicates, and the article hints as well, that htis is an opngoing process, and can only be seen where water can freeze.
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Re: Mercury Updates

Unread postby seasmith » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:40 pm

Release Date: October 15, 2014
Images acquired by NASA’s MESSENGER spacecraft
have revealed the morphology of frozen volatiles in Mercury’s permanently shadowed polar craters and provide insight into the mode of emplace- ment and evolution of the polar deposits. The images show extensive, spatially continuous regions with distinctive reflectance properties. A site within Prokofiev crater identified as containing widespread sur- face water ice exhibits a cratered texture that resembles the neighbor- ing sunlit surface except for its uniformly higher reflectance, indicating that the surficial ice was emplaced after formation of the underlying craters.

In areas where water ice is inferred to be present but covered by a thin layer of dark, organic-rich volatile material, regions with uniformly lower reflectance extend to the edges of the shadowed areas and terminate with sharp boundaries.
The sharp boundaries indicate that the volatile deposits at Mercury’s poles are geologically young, relative to the time scale for lateral mixing by impacts, and either are restored at the surface through an ongoing process or were delivered to the planet recently. ... ology1.jpg ... =gsgeology ... ge_id=1484
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Re: Water ice found

Unread postby seasmith » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:59 pm


Sorry, didn't see this one, and have posted on Planetary Science board;
where there has been an ongoing Mercury thread for some time.

The T'bolts mods consolidated some main topics a while back, making subject searches easier to find the Thunderbolts Forum
for the general public,
(and to try and alleviate a bit, their onerous workload ;)

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Re: Mercury Updates

Unread postby Frantic » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:09 pm

No worries, I hadn't actually seen this thread. Will have to scan through it now. Thanks for getting this into the main thread.
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Velikovsky Crater on Mercury?

Unread postby MattEU » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:40 pm

When Messenger arrived at Mercury, its mission was to take 2,500 pictures of the planet. The spacecraft took a hundredfold more images than expected, producing a high-resolution map of the entire world. Already, the IAU has named 372 of the craters discovered, but several hundred thousand await names.

But before you get to excited about adding a Thornhill Crater or CosmicLettuce Crater on Mercury ...

All new craters on Mercury must be named after an artist, composer, or writer who was famous for more than 50 years and has been dead for more than three years.

For more details go to Help Name Mercury’s Craters

But there still is a chance for a Velikovsky Crater!
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