These 2500 year old ceramic fired figurines were discovered at the foot of El Toro Mountain on the outskirts of Acambaro, Mexico.
"Proof of the pudding…"
- There are circumstances that provide opportunities for testing. Dinosaurs which are supposed have lived at least 60 million years ago, should not yield dates of thousands of years. Rocks known to have formed in historical times should not yield dates of millions of years.
- Dinosaur Bone
(Illium bone of an Acrocanthosarus)
Radio carbon dated at 19,000 years old!
- Wood embedded in "110 million year old limestone"
Radio carbon dated at 890 years old!
- Carbonized stick embedded in "110 million year old limestone"
Radio carbon dated at 12,900 years old!
- Mt. St. Helens
The new lava dome (dacite) from the at Mount St. Helens was formed in 1986. In 1997 five specimens were taken from this dome at five different locations and subjected to conventional Potassium-Argon dating. The results indicated ages of less than one half to almost three million years old, all from eleven year old rock.
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- We know when this dome formed. When we date rock of known age we test the claims and we see obvious failures. But, when we date rock of unknown age, we are assured that the results are accurate.
The Columbia River Basin includes a canyon called the Columbia River Gorge that is up to 1200 meters deep, running for about 130 kilometers. The canyon provides an easy route through the Cascade Mountains, since it is the only waterway between the Columbia River Plateau and the Pacific Ocean. ... However, at the end of the last Ice Age, about 19,000 years ago, some speculate that the so-called Missoula Floods cut the steep walls that are present today. ... Electric Universe theorists postulate that approximately 10,000 years ago, Earth was engulfed by electric arcs that prehistoric eyewitnesses called “thunderbolts of the gods”. Those gigantic lightning bolts dissected the continental geography, forming what consensus science says are eons-old structures, in an instant.
Evidence exists, one example is given below. Creationists and young earthers have latched on to this in order to support their positions. I for one, cannot worry about the agenda of some of these websites. One should judge the evidence objectively and it should be criticized for it's logic and content, not by an implied agenda. Of course one runs the risk of "guilt by association," well then so be it, it is worthwhile risk. So asking for evidence that was published in a peer reviewed journal, and contradicts the conventional time scale, is not a realistic request. The "peers" who do the reviewing regard the textbook time scale as sacrosanct. This time scale is considered to be fact and not subject to dispute, therefore any evidence to the contrary is summarily dismissed and never considered for publication. So such a request creates an inevitable Catch 22. There have been threads on these boards disputing the accepted geological timescales, which are based upon assumptions of the slow deposition of material and radiometric dating.fosburn wrote:Seems like if man and dinosaurs crossed paths, there would be world wide evidences like the cave paintings and rock carvings. Dinosaur bone and tooth, tools etc.
In the redstone wall of the Supai Canyon in the region of the Grand Canyon in northern Arizona were discovered figures of animals cut by some prehistoric man. "The fact some prehistoric man made a pictograph of a dinosaur on the walls of this
canyon upsets completely all our theories regarding antiquity of man."(21) "The fact that the animal is upright and
balanced on its tail would seem to indicate that the prehistoric artist must have seen it alive."(22) Dinosaurs were in
the vicinity, as is established by footprints not more than one hundred miles from the picture.
Lloyd wrote:* Peer review is just a means to suppress any knowledge that the establishment doesn't want people to know or believe. Don Patten has been published in Catastrophist periodicals. That's good enough for me and more impressive than peer review. Velikovsky also found evidence that dinosaurs lived into the age of man. And I have no reason to disbelieve any of the statements made in the links above. I'm for skepticism, but applying it to the mainstream as much as to anything else.
Anaconda said: Dinosaurs lived for a longer geologic time period, and closer to the present day than currently accepted by mainstream paleontologists, yet, there does seem to be an absence of dinosaur bones in the most recent geological strata.
by Lloyd » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:14 pm
* Peer review is just a means to suppress any knowledge that the establishment doesn't want people to know or believe. Don Patten has been published in Catastrophist periodicals. That's good enough for me and more impressive than peer review. Velikovsky also found evidence that dinosaurs lived into the age of man. And I have no reason to disbelieve any of the statements made in the links above. I'm for skepticism, but applying it to the mainstream as much as to anything else.
by nick c » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:18 pm
Evidence exists, one example is given below. Creationists and young earthers have latched on to this in order to support their positions. I for one, cannot worry about the agenda of some of these websites. One should judge the evidence objectively and it should be criticized for it's logic and content, not by an implied agenda.
Of course one runs the risk of "guilt by association," well then so be it, it is worthwhile risk. So asking for evidence that was published in a peer reviewed journal, and contradicts the conventional time scale, is not a realistic request. The "peers" who do the reviewing regard the textbook time scale as sacrosanct. This time scale is considered to be fact and not subject to dispute, therefore any evidence to the contrary is summarily dismissed and never considered for publication. So such a request creates an inevitable Catch 22.
In an article titled "Were All Dinosaurs Reptiles?" Kronos Vol. II #2, (1976), Velikovsky cites a report of the Doheny Scientific Expedition, to the Hava Supai Canyon, Northern Arizona (1925):
In the redstone wall of the Supai Canyon in the region of the Grand Canyon in northern Arizona were discovered figures of animals cut by some prehistoric man. "The fact some prehistoric man made a pictograph of a dinosaur on the walls of this
Anaconda said: Dinosaurs lived for a longer geologic time period, and closer to the present day than currently accepted by mainstream paleontologists, yet, there does seem to be an absence of dinosaur bones in the most recent geological strata.
Lloyed wrote:Did you overlook my post above where I quoted: HUMAN FOSSILS IN SAME ROCK STRATA AS DINOSAURS!?
In 1971 a heavy equipment operator made a startling discovery in a layer of Dakota Sandstone which is part of the Lower Cretaceous strata. The Lower Cretaceous strata is known for its dinosaur fossils and according to the evolutionary time table and is supposedly 140 million years old. This is the same rock strata where numerous dinosaur fossils have been found at Dinosaur National Monument.
The skeletons of ten perfectly modern human beings were found fifty eight feet down in the Dakota Sandstone [Lower Cretaceous]. At least four of the individuals were female, one was an infant, and the rest were men. The amazing thing is that some the fossils were articulated or found in their natural body positions which indicates they were quickly buried by some sort of catastrophic flood and mud slide.
Dr. Don Patton is shown here in 1990 holding a human femur which had been found at the site. He had personally excavated this leg bone just moments before this photo. Note the green malachite that replaced the original bone.
This perfectly modern human jaw bone with teeth has also been excavated from the site. Notice the turquoise that replaced the original bone during the fossilization process.
I am not sure what you are stating here? Of course, skepticism is a good thing, but the fact that it is stone and not bone in no way implies fraud. Fossilization takes many forms, and one of the common forms would involve the replacement of bone with minerals which form into stone.I don't see any reason to overlook the obvious conclusion that malachite and turquise is not bone, so these could very well be fake.
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