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Re: 'Deflector Shields' protect the Lunar Surface

Unread postby Maol » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:26 pm

Oops, I forgot the link. :roll:

There is an interesting discussion in the comments following this.

http://phys.org/news/2012-07-deflector- ... rface.html
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Re: 'Deflector Shields' protect the Lunar Surface

Unread postby sjw40364 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:03 pm

You notice that these spots on the moon face earth because of the Earth moon connection just as Jupiter and its moons and Saturn and its moons leave aural footprints. If earth was bigger you would be able to see the moons imprint in our aurora too. That is the current path between Earth and the moon.
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Re: 'Deflector Shields' protect the Lunar Surface

Unread postby 303vegas » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:54 am

fascinating stuff!

this has major implications for the defence industry too. couls an aeroplane be radar invisible using this kind of effect? channeling radar pulses around it using an EM field rather than deflecting and absorbing them with angles and materials? could we use this kind of effect as a propulsion system to ride stellar emissions using the intensity/polarity of such a field? also would we be able to use these stellar emissions to power the system itself? it can't be beyond current technology.

i'm getting excited now..!
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Re: 'Deflector Shields' protect the Lunar Surface

Unread postby jone dae » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:33 am

That's some very interesting news. -thank you for posting it.
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Re: 'Deflector Shields' protect the Lunar Surface

Unread postby PersianPaladin » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:57 pm

Just goes to show that electricity is virtually everywhere in the solar system.

I summarise the electro-magnetism on the moon in one part of a video series I'm currently making on Youtube - with some interesting parallels between lunar gravity and magnetic anomalies:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4H0K8rkVE
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Re: 'Deflector Shields' protect the Lunar Surface

Unread postby Dotini » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:27 pm

sjw40364 wrote:You notice that these spots on the moon face earth because of the Earth moon connection just as Jupiter and its moons and Saturn and its moons leave aural footprints. If earth was bigger you would be able to see the moons imprint in our aurora too. That is the current path between Earth and the moon.


The anomalous magnetic fields appear almost symmetrically on opposite sides of the Moon.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_YoCIFkM3GQ8/S4frT ... 00x279.png

Is this a necessary artifact of the current path? I believe the Moon is not currently considered to be a magnetic dipole.

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Re: 'Deflector Shields' protect the Lunar Surface

Unread postby PersianPaladin » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:49 am

Dotini wrote:
sjw40364 wrote:You notice that these spots on the moon face earth because of the Earth moon connection just as Jupiter and its moons and Saturn and its moons leave aural footprints. If earth was bigger you would be able to see the moons imprint in our aurora too. That is the current path between Earth and the moon.


The anomalous magnetic fields appear almost symmetrically on opposite sides of the Moon.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_YoCIFkM3GQ8/S4frT ... 00x279.png

Is this a necessary artifact of the current path? I believe the Moon is not currently considered to be a magnetic dipole.

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Maybe it is a result of some remnant magnetism derived from a catastrophic past? Who knows.
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"Magnetic Bubbles" on the Moon? Apparently so.

Unread postby neilwilkes » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:45 am

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Re: "Magnetic Bubbles" on the Moon? Apparently so.

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Re: "Magnetic Bubbles" on the Moon? Apparently so.

Unread postby neilwilkes » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:49 am

Thank you.
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Re: Electric Moon

Unread postby MrAmsterdam » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:30 am

Minimagnetospheres above the Lunar Surface and the Formation of Lunar Swirls

http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v109/i8/e081101

In this paper we present in situ satellite data, theory, and laboratory validation that show how small-scale collisionless shocks and minimagnetospheres can form on the electron inertial scale length. The resulting retardation and deflection of the solar wind ions could be responsible for the unusual “lunar swirl” patterns seen on the surface of the Moon.
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Re: Electric Moon

Unread postby Sparky » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:03 am

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Very interesting image. Note that quite a few craters are on shackleton's rim, but few within the crater. A strange pattern at the 8 oclock!

This could only mean that shackleton has some force field that deflects meteors from hitting within it! Probably the depth of the crater has tapped into the moon's true nature, an artificial satellite, which is protecting itself from meteor collisions by focusing a force field upward from the crater. ;)
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Re: Electric Moon

Unread postby seasmith » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:30 am

Minimagnetospheres above the Lunar Surface and the Formation of Lunar Swirls

http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v109/i8/e081101


Article with video is here:

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v5/92

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Remnant magnetization and gravity anomalies on the Moon

Unread postby PersianPaladin » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:22 pm

I want to talk about the interesting phenomena of certain lunar basin regions that possess high magnetic field anamolies. These areas also possess significant gravity anamolies - that are otherwise known as "mascons".

Let's start with the example of Mare Orientale:-

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http://lunarnetworks.blogspot.co.uk/200 ... -kiss.html

Mare Serenitatis:-

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Mare Imbrium:-

http://www.davesastro.co.uk/moon/mare_i ... 4_2358.jpg
(img is too large, so please click on it to view)

Mare Crisium:-

http://www.footootjes.nl/Astrophotograp ... W40L44.jpg
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Now, all of these "impact basins" have notable electromagnetic anomalies:-

"Previous work has shown that the strongest concentrations of lunar crustal magnetic anomalies are located antipodal to four large, similarly aged impact basins (Orientale, Serenitatis, Imbrium, and Crisium)."
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2005/2 ... 2405.shtml

They are also known as Mascons - i.e. they possess positive gravity anomalies:-

"Type examples of mascon basins on the Moon are the Imbrium, Serenitatis, Crisium and Orientale impact basins, all of which possess prominent topographic lows and positive gravitational anomalies" - Wikipedia


A TPOD written on May 12th featured some notable findings regarding the white shiny features that can be observed within (and also around) these "impact basin" regions:-


Recent maps of lunar magnetic anomalies reveal several other formations of high albedo material also associated with areas of crustal magnetism imprinted on the lunar surface. Descartes, the Apollo 16 landing site, possesses a prominent magnetic signature. Powdery swirls in Gerasimovich crater, on the Moon's far side, are estimated to be less than five centimeters thick. Gerasimovich is also notable for its magnetic attribute.

Latent magnetic fields in Mare Marginis and Mare Ingenii were measured by the Lunar Prospector spacecraft in the 1990s. Measurements of the remanent magnetism in the lunar crust were taken by observing the magnetic reflection of electrons from the Moon’s surface. The differences are small, but the evidence points to a variable strength magnetic field imprinted on the Moon. Since magnetism is a result of electrical currents, then the swirling pattern of the various formations could be due to an external electrical influence.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2011/ ... malies.htm

Thus, the remanent magnetism detected from these shallow shiny features may well be derived from some form of lightning discharge. Look again at the above images, closely - and you will notice white filamentary features in the basin centres.

Now, take a look at this image of a magnetic dipole in the Crisium "impact basin":-

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 5-f1.2.jpg

Could this have resulted from an external arc discharge striking that region of the Moon?

This paper has some interesting findings regarding lightning-induced magnetic anamolies on Earth:-

Lightning-induced remanent magnetism (LIRM) is a phenomenon that appears to be commonly encountered on archaeological sites, but rarely recognized in magnetic survey data. Strong bipolar anomalies of linear, radial, or dendritic form appearing in magnetic data plots have sometimes been interpreted as ferrous metal or igneous intrusions. A number of these enigmatic anomalies have appeared in magnetic field gradient surveys conducted by the authors as well as by other investigators. Several of these were investigated by coring and hand excavation, but no apparent sources for these anomalies could be found. The lack of visible anomaly sources and polarities not aligned to the geomagnetic field (either past or present) suggested lightning strikes as a possible cause of magnetization.


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"Figure 1. Magnetic survey data from the 3030 Winchester Site. A Lightning induced anomaly appears at N20/E20. Smaller circular anomalies in the southern portion of the data plot are caused by Prehistoric hearth features (Jones, 2001; Munson, 2002)."

They found that any material can become magnetized by these lightning discharges (an example being basalt http://pubs.usgs.gov/bul/1083e/report.pdf). Findings regarding longevity and field strength:-

Observed magnetic gradient anomalies have ranged from beyond the maximum range of the instrument (+/-2047.5 nT) to a few tenths of a nT, only faintly perceptible in even the quietest data set. We suggest that lightning-induced anomalies may initially display a very high remanence, but may diminish with time. As individual sediment grains are re-oriented by turbation processes, vector subtraction of increasingly randomised magnetic moments will eventually reduce the net remanence to zero. Unlike lightning-induced anomalies, those due to thermal features can remain detectable indefinitely because of enhanced magnetic susceptibility.


Source:-
http://www.archaeophysics.com/pubs/LIRM.html


Taking into account these crater and depression regions as possible results of interplanetary electric discharge machining - is it possible that powerful electric arcs created magnetized soil, dust and rock in the shallow upper part of the depressions?

How does this tally with their mass\gravity anomalies? Could it be that the free (or unpaired) electrons in this magnetized material are powerful enough to create electric fields that enhance the possible existence of a dipole-dipole electric field between the "subtrons" in subatomic particles? In other words - are these electric fields enhancing gravitation? What other explanation could there be? As the quantity of magnetized material is unlikely to account for extra gravitational effects that affect the course of space satellites:-

"What happened? The Moon itself plunged the subsatellite to its death. That's the conclusion of Alex S. Konopliv, planetary scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena."

"The Moon is extraordinarily lumpy, gravitationally speaking," Konopliv continues. "I don't mean mountains or physical topography. I mean in mass. What appear to be flat seas of lunar lava have huge positive gravitational anomalies—that is, their mass and thus their gravitational fields are significantly stronger than the rest of the lunar crust." Known as mass concentrations or "mascons," there are five big ones on the front side of the Moon facing Earth, all in lunar maria (Latin for "seas") and visible in binoculars from Earth."

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... _loworbit/


Did inter-planetary thunderbolts help create the "lumpy" gravitational field of the Moon? The question remains open.
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Re: Remnant magnetization and gravity anomalies on the Moon

Unread postby PersianPaladin » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:13 pm

Please examine Table 1 from this paper:-

"Joint Analysis of Gravity and Magnetic Anomalies on the Moon"
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/928011/Join ... n-the-Moon

Some interesting correlations are apparent.

A graph of gravity anomalies and impact basins can also be found here:-
http://lpod.wikispaces.com/March+7,+2010

The correlations are interesting. But what I find the most interesting is the South-Pole Aitken basin. This study, for example - blames a large asteroid or even a comet for causing the basin and its magnetism:-


"The Moon possesses strong magnetic anomalies that are enigmatic given the weak magnetism
of lunar rocks. We show that the most prominent grouping of anomalies can be explained by
highly magnetic extralunar materials from the projectile that formed the largest and oldest impact
crater on the Moon: the South Pole–Aitken basin. The distribution of projectile materials from
a model oblique impact coincides with the distribution of magnetic anomalies surrounding this
basin, and the magnetic properties of these materials can account for the intensity of the observed
anomalies if they were magnetized in a core dynamo field"
http://scripts.mit.edu/~paleomag/articl ... cience.pdf


You can see the South Pole-Aitken basin magnetic anomaly in red here:-

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Source:-
http://core2.gsfc.nasa.gov/research/pur ... index.html

And the gravity anomaly in pretty much the same location:-

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Source:-
http://lunarnetworks.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... ghest.html


Makes you go hmmmm.....
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