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Re: Sun unleashes huge solar flare

Unread postby mharratsc » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:31 pm

In a similar vein, I have wondered- if positively charged hydrogen ions are flooding in at breaches in the Earth's mag field at the poles, they will combine at some point with the more negatively charged oxygen in our atmosphere, and I think this is why we see so much snow at the poles.

The Sun is scavenging electrons from the Earth even while depositing hydrogen (which combines with the oxygen in the form of neutrally charged water which falls straight down on the polar ice caps for the most part.)

If electrons are being scavenged from the Earth in the return path to the Sun, that would be removing energy from our environment, would it not?

The thermodynamic effect of this electron scavenging would be cooling, in other words.

This is in addition to a Lichtenberg pattern of secondary 'dark' currents moving charge around the surface causing various of the previously attributed effects such as electrical storms, tornados, and earthquakes.

That's my intuitive leap for the day. :)
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Re: Sun unleashes huge solar flare

Unread postby seasmith » Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:57 pm

Dr Chris Davis, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, on 7 minute video tying together data ( magnetic, plasmic, xray, thermal and etc.)
from STEREO and ACE satellites for the arrival of this first major X-flare of the cycle: ... r_embedded


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Re: Sun unleashes huge solar flare

Unread postby Dotini » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:27 am

ISS astronaut snaps a great pic of sinuous plasma ribbon said due to CME.
What is the green blob toward the lower right? ... 5882755386

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Re: MEGA SOLAR FILAMENT; let's observe this one

Unread postby Sparky » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:45 pm

Is this an example of acceleration of ions through the suns DL ? far as i can tell. :oops:
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Re: Sun unleashes huge solar flare

Unread postby nick c » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:24 am

This thread is a merger of the following threads:

A special case of electric storm?

Space storm alert: 90 seconds from catastrophe

Solar Eruption Causes New Look at Old Theory

MEGA SOLAR FILAMENT; let's observe this one

Sun unleashes huge solar flare

Fractal / Scalable Phenomena: Solar Flares

Without Doubt, NASA and Lockheed confirm Electric Universe

CME's induce electric currents in the Earth's plasma sphere

EJECTION TO ARRIVE!!...yesterday

Flux Transfer Event
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NASA - New way to track CME's from sun to Earth

Unread postby stickwhistler » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:48 am

NASA track CME from origin to earth contact.

I can't see this anywhere else on the forum, so here it is.
Interesting because the Stereo data is used in a new(ish) way,
and plasma and magnetic fields are mentioned very often.

41 minutes long, approx 30 mins by NASA staff, then questions & answers.
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Re: Solar Flares

Unread postby allynh » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:39 am

Moderator, you might combine the thread

NASA - New way to track CME's from sun to Earth

with this thread.

Spacecraft Sees Solar Storm Engulf Earth ... _cmemovie/

A wide-angle movie recorded by NASA's STEREO-A spacecraft shows a solar storm traveling all the way from the sun to Earth and engulfing our planet. A 17 MB Quicktime zoom( ... adds perspective to the main 40 MB Quicktime movie.( ...

August 18, 2011: For the first time, a spacecraft far from Earth has turned and watched a solar storm engulf our planet. The movie, released today during a NASA press conference, has galvanized solar physicists, who say it could lead to important advances in space weather forecasting.

“The movie sent chills down my spine,” says Craig DeForest of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado. "It shows a CME swelling into an enormous wall of plasma and then washing over the tiny blue speck of Earth where we live. I felt very small.”

CMEs are billion-ton clouds of solar plasma launched by the same explosions that spark solar flares. When they sweep past our planet, they can cause auroras, radiation storms, and in extreme cases power outages. Tracking these clouds and predicting their arrival is an important part of space weather forecasting.

“We have seen CMEs before, but never quite like this,” says Lika Guhathakurta, program scientist for the STEREO mission at NASA headquarters. “STEREO-A has given us a new view of solar storms.”

STEREO-A is one of two spacecraft launched in 2006 to observe solar activity from widely-spaced locations. At the time of the storm, STEREO-A was more than 65 million miles from Earth, giving it the “big picture” view other spacecraft in Earth orbit have been missing.

When CMEs first leave the sun, they are bright and easy to see. Visibility is quickly reduced, however, as the clouds expand into the void. By the time a typical CME crosses the orbit of Venus, it is a billion times fainter than the surface of the full Moon, and more than a thousand times fainter than the Milky Way. CMEs that reach Earth are almost as gossamer as vacuum itself and correspondingly transparent.

“Pulling these faint clouds out of the confusion of starlight and interplanetary dust has been an enormous challenge,” says DeForest.

Indeed, it took almost three years for his team to learn how to do it. Footage of the storm released today was recorded back in December 2008, and they have been working on it ever since. Now that the technique has been perfected, it can be applied on a regular basis without such a long delay.

Alysha Reinard of NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center explains the benefits for space weather forecasting:

“Until quite recently, spacecraft could see CMEs only when they were still quite close to the sun. By calculating a CME's speed during this brief period, we were able to estimate when it would reach Earth. After the first few hours, however, the CME would leave this field of view and after that we were 'in the dark' about its progress.”

“The ability to track a cloud continuously from the Sun to Earth is a big improvement,” she continues. “In the past, our very best predictions of CME arrival times had uncertainties of plus or minus 4 hours,” she continues. “The kind of movies we’ve seen today could significantly reduce the error bars.”

The movies pinpoint not only the arrival time of the CME, but also its mass. From the brightness of the cloud, researchers can calculate the gas density with impressive precision. Their results for the Dec. 2008 event agreed with actual in situ measurements at the few percent level. When this technique is applied to future storms, forecasters will be able to estimate its impact with greater confidence.

At the press conference, DeForest pointed out some of the movie’s highlights: When the CME first left the sun, it was cavernous, with walls of magnetism encircling a cloud of low-density gas. As the CME crossed the Sun-Earth divide, however, its shape changed. The CME “snow-plowed” through the solar wind, scooping up material to form a towering wall of plasma. By the time the CME reached Earth, its forward wall was sagging inward under the weight of accumulated gas.

The kind of magnetic transformations revealed by the movie deeply impressed Guhathakurta: “I have always thought that in heliophysics understanding the magnetic field is equivalent to the ‘dark energy’ problem of astrophysics. Often, we cannot see the magnetic field, yet it orchestrates almost everything. These images from STEREO give us a real sense of what the underlying magnetic field is doing.”

All of the speakers at today’s press event stressed that the images go beyond the understanding of a single event. The inner physics of CMEs have been laid bare for the first time—a development that will profoundly shape theoretical models and computer-generated forecasts of CMEs for many years to come.

“This is what the STEREO mission was launched to do,” concludes Guhathakurta, “and it is terrific to see it live up to that promise."

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Re: Solar Flares

Unread postby Osmosis » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:37 pm

The latest CME disturbed the Earth's magnetic field sufficiently to be recorded at Jasper Ridge, above Stanford University. The magnitude was around 50 nanoTesla.

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Re: Solar Flares

Unread postby Sparky » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:01 pm

At Stanford Solar Center site, they list the elements emitting from the sun.

The composition of the solar wind is a mixture of materials found in the solar plasma, composed of ionized hydrogen (electrons and protons) with an 8% component of helium (alpha particles) and trace amounts of heavy ions and atomic nuclei: C, N, O, Ne, Mg, Si, S, and Fe ---SOHO also identified traces of some elements for the first time such as P, Ti, Cr and Ni and an assortment of solar wind isotopes identified for the first time: Fe 54 and 56; Ni 58,60,62 ---

These "trace" amounts, over eons, would amount to quite some amount of heavy elemental matter...How much? idea...

But, would a solar flare contain more heavy elements?
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Re: Solar Flares

Unread postby webolife » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:14 pm

Sparky, I'm wondering if the intensity of the CME blast would dissociate heavier elements, this especially in light of Stanford's reception of the solar wind as primarily alpha and beta particles and ions/protons... ?
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Re: Solar Flares

Unread postby Sparky » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:53 am

webolife wrote:Sparky, I'm wondering if the intensity of the CME blast would dissociate heavier elements, this especially in light of Stanford's reception of the solar wind as primarily alpha and beta particles and ions/protons... ?

Of course, and fission, fusion?.....what little i know about it all, i would have to just guess, from ignorance, that a whole lot is going on, possibly in both directions...

if someone runs across, or who can calculate , the mass of trace elements ejected, i sure would like to know what the tonnage arriving on earth would be...thanks...
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ENLIL Model Shows Planetary Circuits (March 7th X5 Flare)

Unread postby Phorce » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:37 am


Source: Big (X5 level) Flare and CME Erupts (March 7, 2012)

This is an extraordinary model using, I believe, real-time inputs. Look at the way Earth, Mars, Mercury and Venus are all grouped in the path of the flare. I can see circuits going between the planets. The overall arrangement of the electrical environment appears obvious with the dynamo effects driving planetary orbits and with inwards and outward flowing currents being obvious.

I was trying to find more of the data for this in the iSWA. I got as far as this but it's not the same data as the ani GIF. Anyone else know what part of the iSWA the GIF is based on ?
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Summer 1859 vs Carrington Super Flare 1859

Unread postby tolenio » Wed May 09, 2012 4:21 am


Many feel all weather is electric and plasma inspired…

Remember the Carrington Super Flare of 1859 (September) I wonder if this weather event was an unnoticed precursor….

Magnetic storm - Carrington Event:
On September 1–2, 1859, the largest recorded geomagnetic storm occurred. Aurorae were seen around the world, most notably over the Caribbean; also noteworthy were those over the Rocky Mountains that were so bright that their glow awoke gold miners, who began preparing breakfast because they thought it was morning.[3] People who happened to be awake in the northeastern US could read a newspaper by the aurora's light.[4]

Telegraph systems all over Europe and North America failed, in some cases even shocking telegraph operators.[5] Telegraph pylons threw sparks and telegraph paper spontaneously caught fire.[6] Some telegraph systems appeared to continue to send and receive messages despite having been disconnected from their power supplies.[7]

The California weather event occurred around the summer solstice of that year and the Carrington event around the autumnal equinox of the same year…

A serene setting most of the time, Santa Barbara is a place where the weather remains fairly constant: beautifully pleasant. Oh, there is the May Gray and the June Gloom- low clouds and fog, but skies usually clear out in the afternoon. In fact, Santa Barbara is listed as 4th out of the top ten cities in the US for lack of changeable weather. “Reliably nice” might characterize it. But that wasn’t the case in the summer of 1859.

California had only been a state for 9 years and the country was on the verge of civil war back east. But on Friday June 17, 1859 the looming war would be forgotten in Goleta, just west of Santa Barbara on the California coast. The morning started with mild temperatures and a noticeable lack of traditional morning fog and clouds for that time of year. Winds were out of the northeast. By mid-morning it was unusually hot. The mercury had risen to the upper 80s and then around noon winds picked up out of the north. It quickly hit 100 degrees. Townsfolk were startled by the extremely hot wind coming down from the Santa Ynez Mountains. But they had no idea of what would transpire a short time later.

Around 1 PM strong winds likely gusting over 65 MPH from the northwest blasted the town with thick dust and temperatures near 130 degrees. Suffocating conditions lead the citizenry to consider this might be Judgment Day and the end of the world. It was a time of surreal paranoia as well as disarming fear. Nobody knew what was going on in this usually pastoral coastal region of about 2,500 residents. And it had happened rather suddenly. All semblance of normalcy was suspended as townspeople were agape with wonder while choking on the hot dust. Everyone attempted to escape this blast furnace of nature. The temperature reached its zenith at 2 PM, measured at 133 degrees. It was 130 degrees offshore on a US coastal survey vessel. Nothing like this had ever been experienced by anyone there. And the sights coastal inhabitants witnessed that afternoon would be reported, but not believed by many. Birds falling dead to the ground while in flight. Some birds in their attempt to escape the burning heat would dive into a well, only to drown. Cattle died under the shade of oak trees. Calves and rabbits died while on their feet. 3 PM and 4 PM, still the temperature was 130 degrees with a blinding dust storm. Fruit fell off trees. Vegetation was scorched and ruined. So terrible was the heat and the loud noise and the lack of breathable air, it seemed to be a plague of God. Daniel Hill, owner of Rancho La Goleta, gathered a number of people in an adobe to earnestly pray for it to end. But yet it went on, mercilessly. A dispatch from the Aquajitos Ranch reported a fisherman had rowed back to shore with blisters on his face and arms from the searing heat. The sun and sky could not be seen through the obscuring dust. Finally, by 5 PM the temperature had fallen a bit to 122 degrees with winds still strong but not as forceful as a few hours earlier. Then, at 7 PM the northwest winds ceased and the mercury rapidly fell to 77 degrees. It was over as suddenly as it had begun.

Residents of Santa Barbara were stunned by the unleashed fury of nature, but felt fortunate to simply be alive. They cautiously surveyed the damage in their town- the loss of livestock, horses, pets and other indigenous animals, not to mention the toll taken on their crops. It was an amazing event, unmatched at any time since. Santa Barbara has endured some tremendous natural disasters, including a great earthquake (estimated magnitude 7+) and tsunami in December 1812. But nothing can compare with the shear terror produced by this weather event. In the Santa Barbara Gazette it was referred to as the “Great Simoon”. A Simoon is an Arabian term, meaning “Poison” and is observed in the Sahara desert as an intensely hot dust storm wind. It often destroys everything in its path.

This simoon was what now is commonly called a Sundowner wind. These winds, similar to Santa Ana winds in other parts of southern California, are extreme features of a downslope wind. They are common in Kern County and often bring dusty and warm weather to the south valley ahead of a cold front. It is also the dynamic that causes our “rain shadow” when wet weather is approaching from the west with strong southerly winds around Bakersfield. For Santa Barbara in June 1859, very strong mid level winds were blowing north to south across the Santa Ynez range and a late season cold dry airmass has expanded over the Great Basin and interior California. The already dried air which had come into the foothills of the Sierra by way of a “Mono Wind” (dry northeasterly wind across the Sierra) would be further warmed and dried when forced over the Santa Ynez mountains south into Santa Barbara. It was a singular event. Many other Sundowners have occurred since, typically late in the day (hence its name)- but never of such intensity and renown. The 133-degree high temperature that day was the unofficial high temperature record for the US (only because “official” records weren’t established until 1870 with the founding of what would become the US Weather Bureau). More than 50 years would pass before Death Valley claimed the current title of hottest place in America, and that at a place you might expect it- in a desert below sea level. People still talk about the Great Simoon as if it were a legend or tall tale. But from the account of newspapers, ship logs, government records and many stories handed down from generation to generation- it really happened on an infamous Friday in June 1859.

Are there any solar records beyond sunspots for the year 1859?

Could this be a reasonable weather precursor (somewhere on the globe [extreme solstice temperature anomaly]) to a coming super flare?

If all weather is electric this may prove to be an indicator.


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Re: Summer 1859 vs Carrington Super Flare 1859

Unread postby kiwi » Wed May 09, 2012 8:15 pm

Thanks Tolenio,enjoyed that read , interesting thoughts :idea: ... Peter Mungo Jupp authored a TPOD last year that might be of interest :) ... ... 02gold.htm

Battered against the rocks by huge waves whipped up by winds of over 160 kilometers per hour, she quickly broke up. Most of the passengers and crew, a total of over 450 people, died. Many of them were killed by being dashed against the rocks by the waves rather than drowned. Others were drowned, weighed down by the belts of gold they were wearing around their bodies. The survivors, 21 passengers and 18 crew members, were all men, with no women or children saved.

The 'Royal Charter' storm was the worst of the entire nineteenth century with a total of 133 ships sunk during the storm. The death toll was around 800. What had caused this unprecedented megastorm? I believe we can look to another event that shows us precisely where our weather comes from.

In the heavens, the solar superstorm of 1859, also known as the 'Carrington Event', was the most powerful solar storm in recorded history. Richard Carrington sketched its magnitude whilst observing the bright flashes of a solar flare on the surface of the sun.
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Re: Summer 1859 vs Carrington Super Flare 1859

Unread postby tolenio » Thu May 10, 2012 3:31 am


The interesting part there is this...

One more phenomena occurred that is painfully coincidental and baffles modern science. The world wide flu epidemic of 1859 was one of the worst ever, causing half a million deaths (Duffy. J.- Louisiana University press). Could solar flares and the CME's synchrotron radiation stimulate viral growth?

In most mammals elevated geomagnetic activity causes a non specific stress adaptation.

Magnetic storms as a stress factor.
SI Rapoport, TD Boldypakova, NK Malinovskaia… - Biofizika, 1998 -
The functional characteristics variations during the magnetic storms were observed in both
the healthy humans and in patients with cardio-vascular diseases as well as in cosmonauts
at SOYUZ spacecraft and MIR station. These characteristics revealed a nonspecific ...

The biology then increases the rate it uses its vitamin D reserves to cope with the stress. Cells access their DNA library to find the proper response to the geomagnetic stress, and to unlock the DNA library it requires a molecule of vitamin D. This accessing of the DNA library keeps cycling until the stress stimuli is gone. This chews up vitamin D reservses. Every cell chewing up vitamin D reserves simultaneously leads to vitamin D deficiency.

But vitamin D is critical to for the immune system in fighting influenza...

Randomized trial of vitamin D supplementation to prevent seasonal influenza A in schoolchildren
[HTML] from ajcn.orgM Urashima, T Segawa, M Okazaki… - … American journal of …, 2010 - Am Soc Nutrition
... The participants were asked to take 3 tablets twice daily (total: 1200 IU vitamin D 3 or placebo ...
One bottle was to be consumed in 15 d. They were also asked to return the ... from school, times
of visits to clinics or hospitals, hospital admissions, and cases of influenza, fever, asthma ...

With these studies in mind the extreme geomagnetic event of Sept. 1859 (and suspected higher levels of GMA that solar season) would have depleted mammillian vitamin D reserves.

More cases of influenza more mutation and recombination of influenza virus strains allowing for more virulent strains to emerge causing elevated deaths and epidemic and pandemic response depending on virulence.

Vitamin D deficiency and mortality risk in the general population: a meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies
Armin Zittermann, Simona Iodice, Stefan Pilz, William B Grant, Vincenzo Bagnardi, and Sara Gandini
Results: For “highest compared with lowest” categories of 25(OH)D, the estimated summary RR of mortality was 0.71 (95% CI: 0.50, 0.91). In the parametric model, the estimated summary RRs (95% CI) of mortality were 0.86 (0.82, 0.91), 0.77 (0.70, 0.84), and 0.69 (0.60, 0.78) for individuals with an increase of 12.5, 25, and 50 nmol 25(OH)D serum values/L, respectively, from a median reference category of ∼27.5 nmol/L. There was, however, no significant decrease in mortality when an increase of ∼87.5 nmol/L above the reference category occurred.

Conclusion: Data suggest a nonlinear decrease in mortality risk as circulating 25(OH)D increases, with optimal concentrations ∼75–87.5 nmol/L.

I suspect super flares can impact biology in ways we do not recognize. Although recent research is changing what optimal vitamin D is upwards (100-150 nmol/L). Naked apes evolving naked under the sun make lots of vitamin D daily at the equator where humans evolved.

There is one report from 1918 that is undeniable about influenza and vitamin D using sunlight.

William A. Brooks - Surgeon General Massachusetts
Am J Public Health (N Y). 1918 October; 8

Makes sense when you look at it that way. No mystery for modern science.

Super flares (all elevated GMA) affect biology.

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