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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:40 am

From an experiment involving an air ionizer and a dish of layered -finely granulated- material and a tea
strainer, i've simulated electrical interactions in the form of a plasma curtain of electrical exchange sweeping
across a planetary surface. This is one of several features formed.
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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:52 am

Recent experiments gave results that closely match many features on planetary bodies.
Check out full explanation in the various html pages and pick through images in the directory and
sub-directories for this effort.
http://www.para-az.com/eltricu-lbgrp

Objective:
Form dendritic deposits similar to those found on cliff faces at locations on Mars.

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:47 pm

A pulled back view of the above image show the results at full scale and shows the extent of the discharge
taken from the metal strip just after power was cycled off. This pattern repeats itself constantly and offers
an alternative mechanism for formation of features where a central ridge is present and where parallel groves
and ridges are seen. Also, at the ends of the parallel tendrils are closely spaces alcoves. These are all features
seen within Valles Marinaris and its adjacent leg to the NE(?) as well as in Hebes Canyon.

See a growing explanation at:http://www.para-az.com/eltricu-lbgrp/hebes-grooves.html

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The near side of the CRT surface, shadowed by the metal strip looked very similar and at the ends the corona
pattern became fan shaped.
Larger image of these and other shots are within a directory at:http://www.para-az.com/eltricu-lbgrp

These experiments show that a single discharge of a surface covered with loose material can make an
extensive feature. In deep material the results are similar and even more interesting as repeated
discharges are taken.
If, from year to year, as bodies passed in close proximity to Mars, interaction were to occur at electrical
levels similar to lightening, these might be the patterns that were progressively sculpted into the Martian
surface where earlier events got the process started.

The Image at this link gives another detail to consider. Mass-lifting of material without a visible arc
excavated the neatly formed features and the darkened feature was from visible arcs,
it too is being lifted en-mass.

http://www.para-az.com/eltricu-lbgrp/flyback4edm/flybk1-13133-s75.jpg

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:55 pm

Here is the image i spoke of above. Note that the corona paths also cut alcoves in surrounding material.
As you look at dendritic ridge systems and their alcoves, look also for troughs extending toward the center
of the chasm.

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http://www.para-az.com/eltricu-lbgrp/rdge2wire1093-x.jpg

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:11 am

Here is another view of material accumulation adjacent to corona paths and against a vertical discharge path.

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I get a lot of objections about these power levels being unrelated to the scaled-up versions, and to that i will
say, oh really !!! According to my electronics manual, electrostatic discharges are consider high voltage,, the
only difference i can imaging is 'sustainability'. However saturation and leakage-resistance seems to be key
in determining the potential to sustain a discharge.

It is here that we have to realize how much atmosphere plays a significant role.

On earth where electrical leakage is constant through the oxygen environment. Your common risks for
electrostatic discharge are in dry thin air, and what do ya know, planetary bodies are commonly surrounded by
dry thin air which raises their saturation potential (resistance to leakage). Now you toss in factors of size and
their constant exposure to the dark-current plasma mode of the solar wind and you are right back to a celestial
body having electrostatic discharge potential.. They don't have built in power supplies like a welder so they
cannot be categorized as a 'driven' current source, unless you want to call upon their flimsy connection with
galactic and solar currents,,, but i think that takes a back seat to the constant solar exposure and their
isolation from other bodies.

These experiments involve induced potential and capacitive discharge and the scale of the arc-potential,
compared to material mobility, means -to me- that an over-powering force is necessary to make these features.

There is much to compare -wrt- resulting appearance of features from the many results from CRT experiments.
And there are more ways to demonstrate the electrical processes behind 'some' planetary feature.


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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:07 am

These radials might are a common pattern which may be applied to crater features with radials.
I think Ralph Juergens speculated on the electrical mechanism behind crater radials being charge scavenging
from the surrounding surfaces.. I vaguely recall that being mentioned more recently by Wal Thornhill somewhere
maybe his site of book. If someone has that references, please pass it on through here. d...z

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:41 am

Crater formation from an electrically-driven process which lifts a mass of material in one instant has been
consistently seen in CRT and ionizer-powered experiment. That same process was responsible for the
ball-ended trench mentioned earlier and the crater and trench features shown below.

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These features will often have very distinct radial patterns across their floors and up the walls terminating
at evenly spaces outcroppings of material. The "mass-lifting" process was first seen during the initial CRT
experiments and was evident in the formation of crater chains as well. Instances which formed craters often
left a central accumulation and sometime in interior donut. Often-times the tendrils that crossed the crater
floor as radials also crossed the rim to the undisturbed material beyond.

Since an electrical wind precedes electrical sculpting, and that electric wind appears to act like beams of
energy, i have suggested that tendrils are crossing the surface, on their way to the probe, carrying material
as they go, and at point of "unified-strength" a mass of material is lifted to form the crater... I can't say for
sure of the exact physics behind the process but i can show it repeatedly through the various experiments with
CRT or ionizer-powered plates. d...z

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:18 pm

To emphasize what electric wind or outreaching tendrils cause here is a crater chain that formed off to the side
substantially from the connection point for the surface being used in a fly-back experiment with a dvd disk. I did
not see the arc reach out to this point from either points of potential. The probe i had control over was at the other side of the disk.
I've seen other instances where the invisible tendrils did far more than the arc, since once the arc establishes,
its movement is minimal and not prone to 'drag' across the surface, instead it jumps as the length of the arc gets
stretched out. In the next image i will show that more clearly. d...z

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:22 pm

This image shows an arc's tendency to 'stick' rather than travel. Formation of this trench took many passes (>20)
and with each pass the arc would find previous contact paths where material had been penetrated, where also,
a cone-shaped crater was formed. The effective difference between this high-voltage method involving a driven
arc is quite curious in light of the quick and complete formation of features from a passive arc and thinner
material. The CRT and ionizer seem to be the best way to demonstrate the electrical mechanism for sculpting
certain features. d...z

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:47 pm

Low voltage TV fly-back experiment continued.

In contrast to the photo above, this one has numerous paths where the probe passed over at a brisk pace
in a straight line. Stick and jump was the arc's pattern in both shallow and deep material but an item of
particular is the shallow areas which look like up-scaled examples. These arcs are small with probe distance less than 1/2 " . Duration of stickage in thin material is very brief and quite different than in thick.
Features were many time larger than the arc's diameter.
The difference between thick and thin material would suggest that hard sub-surfaces play an important
role in the features that are commonly seen on many bodies in our celestial neighborhood. d...z

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:45 pm

A change in the experiemnt further showed the many phases of electrical interaction. Mass lifting cleared
away material that was thinner than previously used so where there would have been a "stick and jump" arc-path
there is now an excavated expanse with signitures made in the dusty floor of arc contacts once the material was
pulled away by an invisible electric force, It is thought to be an underminning force but a closer look with video
is needed to show what is being seen.

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If you have familarity with low-power flyback driver setups you can do this yourself and suggest ways for me to
get a slightly larger, controlable, spark. d...z

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:30 pm

To further demonstrate the mass-lifting process associated with an electricly charge body
and electrical interaction, i have this recent feature and a series of experiments with
the low-power flyback setup to offer some important observation about material thickness
and material being torn away before an arc in established, once an arc connects the lifting
process stops until contact is again lost. An arc has limits but electro-lifting force is proportional to body size.
More observations are necessary to bring all that happened to form this beutiful feature,
complete with a couple arc penetrations at the end of the pass. d...z

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http://para-az.com/eltricu-lbgrp/flyback4edm/teabk-trnch-13228-s75c.jpg

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http://para-az.com/eltricu-lbgrp/flyback4edm/teabk-trnch-13227.28-s65.jpg

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:25 pm

As we take a closer look you will see many small craters across the floor of this trench where
material remains. These were made without visible arcing so we may be able to look at
the martian surface and its fields of tiny craters with a new sense for an electtrical mechanism,
the electrical interaction between the clouds of dust and the surface in dark-dischage mode. d...z

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:56 am

A close look with lighting to show the parallel features running at right angle to a remnant ridge. d...z

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Re: Electric discharges to dusty CRT match planetary feature

Unread postby dahlenaz » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:37 pm

An earlier experiment showed how the corona, associated with an axial conductor being used as a path for
a discharge of a CRT surface, will produce troughs very similar to those seen running up to the ridges of
material on Mars which resides along the interior walls of trenches and craters, and elsewhere.
A careful examination of these features is very important to see how they differ from
dendritic formation via other processes.

The image below shows dendritic ridge formation made by tapping the surface under the material. d...z

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