Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby Bomb20 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:51 am

New video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWFtkxFWR_0

That is all very exciting and offers a broader spectrum of opportunities for creation of circular mountains, craters, channels and rilles. The environment of this crater between the strange network of rilles at Hephaestus Fossae and the Hebrus Valles is a real challenge. I wonder about the following:

Example 1: https://www.google.de/maps/space/mars/@21.7504143,125.7824355,44456m/data=!3m1!1e3
Here we can see that shallow "channels" with islands of material turn into sharply defined, deep rilles.

Example 2: https://www.google.de/maps/space/mars/@21.7547085,125.3203443,44470m/data=!3m1!1e3
Here we see deep rilles and pits are crossing, disturbing and overwriting older shallow channels.

I understood that in the "subtraction hypothesis" electric arcs are removing existing material, they excavate material and create craters, rills, pits etc.

In the "addition hypothesis" (what mode, mostly dark mode???) the shallow "channels" are rather locations of "conveyor belts" for material or "cleaned regions" and craters results of swirling material which becomes concentrated in circular patters.

Now I wonder if both processes could work together. I think if a celestial object approached Mars then discharges should develop so: dark mode --> glow mode --> arc mode --> glow mode --> dark mode. For example arcs could cause craters and other processes could modify the original results in the landscape by the transport of material to other places and overwriting of earlier patterns.

O.K. sounds not very helpful. :oops:
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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby Bomb20 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:53 am

And here: https://www.google.de/maps/space/mars/@19.011527,125.0226395,43271m/data=!3m1!1e3

We see the ejecta of an (to me electric) crater overwritten by rilles South and West of the crater. The crater is situated a little SW of the first reference crater and belongs to the same network of rilles like the other crater. So, this crater is older than the rilles and was not created at the same time in the process which created the rilles.

But more southward we find a third crater, where the rille stopped at the rim of the crater and continued on the other side of the crater´s rim in the North.
https://www.google.de/maps/space/mars/@17.7360085,125.8133164,81261m/data=!3m1!1e3

Why this disregard for the crater itself?
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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby starbiter » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:10 am

Bomb20 wrote:And here: https://www.google.de/maps/space/mars/@19.011527,125.0226395,43271m/data=!3m1!1e3

We see the ejecta of an (to me electric) crater overwritten by rilles South and West of the crater. The crater is situated a little SW of the first reference crater and belongs to the same network of rilles like the other crater. So, this crater is older than the rilles and was not created at the same time in the process which created the rilles.

But more southward we find a third crater, where the rille stopped at the rim of the crater and continued on the other side of the crater´s rim in the North.
https://www.google.de/maps/space/mars/@17.7360085,125.8133164,81261m/data=!3m1!1e3

Why this disregard for the crater itself?



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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby starbiter » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:00 am

starbiter wrote:
Bomb20 wrote:And here: https://www.google.de/maps/space/mars/@19.011527,125.0226395,43271m/data=!3m1!1e3

We see the ejecta of an (to me electric) crater overwritten by rilles South and West of the crater. The crater is situated a little SW of the first reference crater and belongs to the same network of rilles like the other crater. So, this crater is older than the rilles and was not created at the same time in the process which created the rilles.

But more southward we find a third crater, where the rille stopped at the rim of the crater and continued on the other side of the crater´s rim in the North.
https://www.google.de/maps/space/mars/@17.7360085,125.8133164,81261m/data=!3m1!1e3

Why this disregard for the crater itself?



I don't share Your certainty concerning the craters. I'll ask friends for opinions and get back.



Hola Bomb,

I asked three friends for opinions concerning the martian craters. The three friends are all more intelligent than i.

One friend thought there wasn't enough information to make an intelligent comment. The other two friends think the rilles and craters were all coincident. I'm in that camp.

Your comment about disregarding the crater seems confusing to me, and it's rather aggressive. I embrace the craters.
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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby Bomb20 » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:44 am

Hi Michael,

thank your for your efforts to clarify the phenomenon!

Sadly, I notice a simple misunderstanding.

Please note, I am neither a native English speaker nor American English speaker. Therefore you should not interpret too much into my remark about "disregard". I intended to say: "Why did the flow of material ignore the crater bottoms?" So, it is the "ignorance" or "disregard" of this "flow" for the crater bottoms. At least there is no clear pattern so see for me at the bottom of the mentioned craters. However, better high res pictures could show more details in the future.

There are other, very similar craters existing nearby in areas without any fluvial pattern. Therefore I am uncertain if these craters have anything to do with "flows" in dark mode discharges in general. I think they could or should be older. However, I could be in error and craters could be a result of swirling matter within electric flows or winds of matter as well.

Only further thoughts, better pictures and well-designed experiments will help to clarify the current problems.

So please, keep a stiff upper lip and good motivation even if people like me are sometimes a bit nerving with their questions or comments. ;)
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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby robinrenee » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:16 pm

Rest in peace, Michael... so sad...
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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby LunarSabbathTruth » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:15 pm

robinrenee wrote:Rest in peace, Michael... so sad...


I did not understand this comment, so I went to Michael's website, and read the following, dated July 21:

I have to bring you the sad news that Michael Steinbacher passed away today.

Let’s remember him by continuing the work he started.

Andreas Otte


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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby D_Archer » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:09 am

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Rest in peace Michael.

I liked your voice.

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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby Bomb20 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:52 am

This is a great loss!

I did not know that we was already so sick when he made his last posts here. I think he tried to share all of his ideas about EU Geology on YouTube and here in his last weeks. I am convinced that some of his ideas will help to change currrent Geology.

Rest in peace, Michael.
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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby GaryN » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:17 am

Sad news indeed. I offer a posthumous 'tip of the hat' to Michael for opening my eyes to the failings of the standard geological model, and for starting me out on my own journey of discovery. I will indeed do my best to continue the work he started.
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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby stevepidge » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:35 am

I always envisioned him as the Han Solo of catastrophic geology. His spark on this plane is extinguished, but the fire he ignited for me will rage until my death.

Lo, There do I see my Father
Lo, There do I see my Mother and
My Brothers and my Sisters
Lo, There do I see the line of my people back to the begining
Lo, They do call to me
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Where thine enemies have been vanquished
Where the brave shall live Forever
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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby jone dae » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:26 pm

I have still not seen any posts or comments, which told how he died. I thought, he died in a fall, climbing rocks for his photos. What happened?

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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby The Great Dog » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:36 pm

Cancer.
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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby AltClut » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:52 am

For Michael, keep an eye on us x

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Re: Are Mountains the Result of a Duning Process?

Unread postby jone dae » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:14 pm

AltClut wrote:For Michael, keep an eye on us x

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Thank you for that post. I watch his geology videos, uploaded to you tube, and have also a radio interview of him.
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