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Sprites, Jets, and Elves

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:44 pm

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: New info on Sprites Reply with quote
OP "Maxwell Jennings"

Here's an interesting new National Geographic article on sprites:

"...in a recent study, a group of physicists used an ultra high-speed digital camera to record sprites in unprecedented detail—10,000 frames per second. "

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... rites.html

Whoa! Cool video available there too!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... rites.html
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:46 pm

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Wow.
Id like to see where sprites relate to the electrical forces beyond the atmosphere. If that connection could be made, it could lead to great discoveries. :D
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:47 pm

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
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Tzunamii wrote:Wow.
Id like to see where sprites relate to the electrical forces beyond the atmosphere. If that connection could be made, it could lead to great discoveries. :D ]


Yeah! We need to get these guys funding ASAP by waking up the idiots in control of all that. The lives of our astronauts depend upon it before there's another serious accident. I'd hate to see us landing on Mars only to be crisp-fried to a crackly-crunch by a massive discharge, or another shuttle getting hit.

"Mission control, we're just about to land on the comet and..." bzzzzzzztttttt CRAAAAACK!

"Comet Spaceship, this is Mission Control, do you read, over? WTF just happend?"
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:48 pm

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: Dissertation Reply with quote
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Here's a 130 page dissertation about sprites and jets in pdf format:

http://www-star.stanford.edu/~vlf/publi ... tation.pdf

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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:48 pm

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Man talk about rain of fire!! I cant help but notice that they look like something of falling meteors. Although plasma does take the form of ball like orbs, But thet usually kind of float.
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:49 pm

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
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Plasmatic MnemoHistory wrote:Man talk about rain of fire!! I cant help but notice that they look like something of falling meteors. Although plasma does take the form of ball like orbs, But thet usually kind of float.


And these are supposedly traveling 1/10 the speed of light!
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:50 pm

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
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Plasmatic MnemoHistory wrote:Man talk about rain of fire!! I cant help but notice that they look like something of falling meteors. Although plasma does take the form of ball like orbs, But thet usually kind of float.


Yeah, very weird looking. Wish there was a wider field of view on that shot.

Had to play it a few times to start picking out details. In the initial stage it seem to be single falling objects, but almost immediately it turns into some kind of electrical parturition (objects splitting/breaking/fissioning apart). After that, all hell breaks loose and it looks like a fireworks show! I mean there are literally things flying in all directions (up down, side ways)... Weird...

Anywho, here's a link to another related article. Not sure if anyone mentioned it. Was linked off the first. But thought it was interesting too.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... under.html

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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:50 pm

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: Reply with quote
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"They are electronic discharges that make the air above glow a luminous red..."

*nefarious grin*
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:51 pm

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
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Wow :D I wish i was there to experience that. Great video.
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:52 pm

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
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What is the collective take on the comment that the "long streamers" are only "an illusion"?
Are they saying these pictures at 10,000 frames a second are nothing more than a time lapse illusion? Since when is time lapse an illusion...

Given this logic lightning strikes are just an illusion.
Just don't get hit by one!

Here is a short piece on alternative high speed photography (the early days) and lightning see "C.V. BOYS LIGHTNING CAMERA"
http://volcaniclightning.tripod.com/aflashof.htm
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:53 pm

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
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I postulate that there is a black hole in Guatemala spewing out lightning bolts.
Clearly a gravitational effect.
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:54 pm

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
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:lol: :lol: :!:
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:55 pm

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
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Tzunamii wrote:I postulate that there is a black hole in Guatemala spewing out lightning bolts.
Clearly a gravitational effect.


Wait, you mean they don't simply evaporate before they form? But physorg said it?? So, it must be true! Black holes may not actually exist! :shock:

http://www.physorg.com/news101560368.html

So, for an alternative theory... See this >>other thread<< :twisted: :lol:

Are they paving the way to clearing out the cosmic closet? Perhaps they'll rule out "Dark Matter" and "Dark Energy" next? And then they'll "discover" electrical effects in interstellar plasma that go along with the magnetic fields they've been seeing for so long. And finally, they'll have simply "known it all along!" :!:

Denial,
much grumbling,
fumbling for a path from point T back to the fork in the road at point N and then forward to point V along the "other path,"
finally, acceptance...

We'll see how long it takes.

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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:56 pm

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: Reply with quote
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lite-brite wrote:What is the collective take on the comment that the "long streamers" are only "an illusion"?
Are they saying these pictures at 10,000 frames a second are nothing more than a time lapse illusion? Since when is time lapse an illusion...

Given this logic lightning strikes are just an illusion.
Just don't get hit by one!

Here is a short piece on alternative high speed photography (the early days) and lightning see "C.V. BOYS LIGHTNING CAMERA"
http://volcaniclightning.tripod.com/aflashof.htm


The analogy they made is in taking a long exposure single-frame-photograph of a freeway at night to produce long streaks of light - i.e. time exposure. The streams of light are not real but the individual moving lights traveling across the exposing photographic plane are real. That entire video spans less than a second of real time, thus to regular speed photography, the moving globes of light appear to be streaks.
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Re: Recovered: New info on Sprites

Unread postby bboyer » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:57 pm

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: Reply with quote
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Like tracing

"no personal experience implied."
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