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Electric Earthquakes

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Re: Electric Earthquakes

Unread postby james weninger » Tue May 05, 2009 10:45 am

I think it is the roughly 2 week delay between the electrical (moon + planets)trigger, and the actual earthquake that has caused earth scientists to miss the cause of earthquakes.
As an example, if you look at the huge indonesean earthquake of 12-26-2004, you must go back to the sky directly over the epicenter on 12-10-2004 to see the cause. A quick check using "Starry Night" astronomy software lets you see that from the epicenter (3N,96E),on 12-10-2004 the moon crossed Mars directly over the fault line,with Venus right there as well.
Using data from the U.S.G.S.,you can find dates and epicenters for most major earthquakes in the past. In the cases of major earthquakes (and major volcanic activity like Krakato) you will find that the moon and mars crossed in the sky very near zenith within the last two weeks of that event.
Now you may say that the moon and mars cross in the sky about once every month,so why are major earthquakes not occuring like clockwork every month? The answer is that the moon and mars don't cross in the sky directly over a major fault line each time. And rarely is another major planet in the same few degrees at the time.
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Re: Electric Earthquakes

Unread postby webolife » Wed May 06, 2009 2:06 pm

Interesting idea... I tried to find some data about the relative position of Venus at that time, and it appears that Venus was on the far side of its orbit with respect to the earth, so I'm taking it from that that Venus and its magneto-tail were not major players in the tsunami disaster.
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Re: Electric Earthquakes

Unread postby ancientd » Sun May 10, 2009 9:36 pm

I find it interesting the assosciation between earthquakes and Tsunamis. I think it is roughly 49% of tsunamis are caused /assosciated with earthquakes with about 20% of Tsunamis having no known cause. The bit that raelly intrigued me was this :
torical Seismology of Next Generation. On Earthquake Tsunami Lightning in Historical Japanese Documents.
Accession number;99A0772645
Title;Historical Seismology of Next Generation. On Earthquake Tsunami Lightning in Historical Japanese Documents.
Author;ENOMOTO YUJI(Mech. Eng. Lab., Agency of Ind. Sci. and Technol.)
Journal Title;Journal of Geography
Journal Code:G0643A
ISSN:0022-135X
VOL.108;NO.4;PAGE.433-439(1999)
Figure&Table&Reference;FIG.1, TBL.1, REF.22
Pub. Country;Japan
Language;Japanese
Abstract;One of the intriguing events accompanying large tsunamis, especially those that strike the Pacific coasts of Japan, is the luminous phenomenon; many historical Japanese documents have described how fire balls or pillars of fire seemed to come out from the sea when tsunami approached. Among 17 events of large tsunamis from 684 to 1946, where the surface wave magnitude was greater than 8 or the tsunami magnitude was greater than 3, nine tsunami events accompanied luminous phenomena. In spite the event's high probability, few explanations have been offered as to the source mechanism except luminescent planktonic organisms, which is hardly plausible because luminous tsunamis have been eye-witnessed even in the winter season when such planktonic organisms are less active, and even in the daytime when the intensity of light emitted from planktonic organisms is unlikely to exceed the day-time brightness. Most tsunami earthquakes are thought to be associated with sediments in the accretionary prism. One recent important finding is that large volumes of stable methane hydrate are present within ocean-floor sediments at water depths exceeding about 500m at 10wer temperatures. When the equilibrium conditions of coupled low temperature and moderate hydrostatic pressure are disturbed by an earthquake, the hydrate abruptly decomposes. Conversely, a breakdown of hydrate may cause a further mass movement, and a cascading chain of events may occur. Some eye-witness reports in historical documents strongly suggest that luminous phenomena associated with tsunami are attributable to methane hydrate disruption, not others causes such as luminescent.
"well this sounds like rationalization at its best in the efforts to describe the fireball effects. Seems some sort of EU phenomena is happening. A bit like glows and discharges with earthquakes except they are highly mobile as if being affected by atravelling focus.It immediately came to mind that we were seeing the tsunami as an EU event and that the earthquakes didnt cause them but were assosciated phenomena These Tsunamis travel at rapid speed along a broad front. If we need to investigate apparently the Kamachatka peninsula has the highest rate of Tsunamis in the world( one every few years up to a hundred foot when it hits land . Tsunamis usaully occur mostly in the Pacific. One would think that a EU affect say from the Sun would ubiquitously affect the world. similarly planet conjunctions.Any thoughts anyone ???
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Re: Electric Earthquakes

Unread postby mharratsc » Tue May 12, 2009 10:09 am

Consider how an earthquake has an epicenter, and that either before or after the quake other slightly remote locales receive more moderate tremors/effects.

Imagine now that- rather than a plasma globe- you have an electrical arc striking a flat surface that is dielectric in composition. Rather than the arc conducting directly into the surface and following a path of least resistance, imagine that you rather have a Lichtenburg figurine-effect, of multiple current paths leading to the point of central charge/discharge.

Now image that these current paths are travelling just below the surface of the earth...

Would that explain some of the phenomena of earthquakes?

More to the point- we're talking about many layers of 'dielectric'- different levels of the atmosphere, then different layers of the crust. What happens when you have two different charges trying to equalize through multiple layers of dielectric? Do you get layer upon layer of multiple channels (like Lichtenburg figurines burned into a golf course green), or that and some arcs, and some diffusion, or what?

Does anyone know of any experiments that investigated something similar?

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Typhoons trigger earthquakes on Taiwan

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Re: Typhoons trigger earthquakes on Taiwan

Unread postby redeye » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:24 am

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Re: Typhoons trigger earthquakes on Taiwan

Unread postby StevenJay » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:43 am

It's all about perception.
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Re: Typhoons trigger earthquakes on Taiwan

Unread postby MGmirkin » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:21 am

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Re: Typhoons trigger earthquakes on Taiwan

Unread postby solrey » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:53 pm

:mrgreen:

That connects the dots between the recent studies measuring the EM component/trigger in earthquakes, and one study that discovered a direct correlation, in hurricanes, between changes in lightning activity and corresponding changes in wind speeds ~30 hrs. later. As well as the studies of ionospheric discharge transferring energy into storms explaining why lightning is more powerful than charge separation from friction can account for. There is also a study showing a relationship with sunspots and global annual lightning activity.

So nice of them to prove EU theory for us. Independent corroboration adds a great deal of legitimacy for the EU. We should send them 'thank you' cards, or something. :?
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Re: Typhoons trigger earthquakes on Taiwan

Unread postby StevenJay » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:02 pm

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Re: Electric Earthquakes

Unread postby willyex » Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:06 am

What is a tsunami, how is it formed and when was the last recent tsunami? When was the last tsunami and how does it happen ?
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Re: Electric Earthquakes

Unread postby mharratsc » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:54 am

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Re: Typhoons trigger earthquakes on Taiwan

Unread postby mharratsc » Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:33 pm

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Re: Typhoons trigger earthquakes on Taiwan

Unread postby GaryN » Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:40 pm

I like your thinking, Mike H. Though I am not qualified to say if your ideas are correct or not, they seem plausible. Even if not correct, then this type of thinking may at least trigger ideas in other folks minds, which leads us all onwards in our quest for the bigger picture. Of course, ideas like these could also get you 'sent down', to the NIAMI board. Keep those ideas coming!
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Re: Typhoons trigger earthquakes on Taiwan

Unread postby mharratsc » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:16 pm

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