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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby nick c » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:01 pm

There is more than enough sunlight to get good images. The Sun, from Pluto's orbit, can appear as much as 450X brighter than the Full Moon.
see:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badas ... qbvF2f2bIU
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby Terminus » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:42 pm

Thanks for the link. The comments section was highly informative.
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Re: Pluto predictions?

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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby Cargo » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:04 pm

GaryN wrote:proof that our Sun emits any visible light or heat, and the experiments that would prove or disprove such an idea have never been performed.


Wait? Really?
I can see it, it's really bright. And things get hot if they are not in the shade of something. Even in space.

Not withstanding a debate about what a wavelength or radiation or energy is. I do believe a bodies (star/planet/comet/asteroid/etc..) impedance or differential to other bodies could in fact contribute to what we see as bright/hot or dim/cold object. And the e-field/atmosphere of that body is an integral component of the equation.
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby Cargo » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:15 pm

What an AMAZING picture!!

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA19947.jpg

And guess WHAT? When they talk about the color of Pluto they mention 'tholins' and how do they 'study' these mysteries?
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/guest-bl ... olins.html

Plasma used to generate tholin from a mixture of N2 and CH4 gases
http://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/asset ... a_f537.jpg

TRANSMUTATION? The God Goo?
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby comingfrom » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:57 pm

Thanks, that is an awesome pic.

Huge mountains.

TRANSMUTATION?
They're talking about chemical reactions, in plasma.
Large complex molecules made up from simple "ices".

Gee. Wonder where all the sparking came from, to make so much tholin on Pluto and Charon?
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Re: Pluto predictions?

Unread postby comingfrom » Fri May 27, 2016 6:11 pm

New Horizons' Best Close-up of Pluto's Surface

Click on the lead image to download the high res image.
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Liquid water on Pluto

Unread postby tholden » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:58 am

All over the internet, take your pick:

https://www.google.com/search?client=op ... 8&oe=UTF-8


Standard theory describes our sun as a thermonuclear furnace. Were that the case, then as you got progressively further from the center of the sun and out into the system, it would would just keep getting colder and Pluto in particular would be frozen solid. There is no way to start with standard theories and believe that Pluto would have liquid water.

The Electric Universe (EU) brand of cosmology on the other hand has no such problems. Given the EU paradigm, if a planet is far enough off from a star like our sun, it could easily start to be heated by the same cosmic current which powers the sun itself.
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Re: Liquid water on Pluto

Unread postby nick c » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:15 pm

Keep in mind that this is not a discovery, but rather a speculation derived from a model.
Anyway, what they are finding on Pluto is certainly not a frozen dead world.
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Re: Liquid water on Pluto

Unread postby Xuxalina Rihhia » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:15 pm

Pluto seems to be both too far and too near to the sun to have liquid water. It's too far for solar effects and too close for electrical energy to heat it to the melting point of water.
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Re: Liquid water on Pluto

Unread postby Vicomt » Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:22 am

how does this square with the latest finding of Pluto emitting X-Rays?

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103516304031

I'm a little hazy on how much energy could be flowing through it and how much would be required to produce the observed phenomena.
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X-rays from Pluto

Unread postby viscount aero » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:44 am

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chand ... pluto.html

Scientists using NASA’s Chandra X-ray Observatory have made the first detections of X-rays from Pluto. These observations offer new insight into the space environment surrounding the largest and best-known object in the solar system’s outermost regions.

While NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft was speeding toward and beyond Pluto, Chandra was aimed several times on the dwarf planet and its moons, gathering data on Pluto that the missions could compare after the flyby. Each time Chandra pointed at Pluto – four times in all, from February 2014 through August 2015 – it detected low-energy X-rays from the small planet.
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Re: Liquid water on Pluto

Unread postby viscount aero » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:39 am

tholden wrote:All over the internet, take your pick:

https://www.google.com/search?client=op ... 8&oe=UTF-8


Standard theory describes our sun as a thermonuclear furnace. Were that the case, then as you got progressively further from the center of the sun and out into the system, it would would just keep getting colder and Pluto in particular would be frozen solid. There is no way to start with standard theories and believe that Pluto would have liquid water.

The Electric Universe (EU) brand of cosmology on the other hand has no such problems. Given the EU paradigm, if a planet is far enough off from a star like our sun, it could easily start to be heated by the same cosmic current which powers the sun itself.

from the article:
"But what’s significant in this finding is the fact that liquid oceans can exist on dwarf planets, moons, and even larger planets, without the tidal forces scientists had assumed were necessary for keeping things nice and flowing. Conor Gearin explains for New Scientist:

"The moons of gas giants, like Jupiter’s moon Ganymede, have subsurface oceans because tidal forces from the planet keeps them sloshing around. In contrast, Pluto seems to have a liquid ocean despite not experiencing a large planet’s tidal pull.

'You don’t need tidal heating in order to have an ocean - that’s an important lesson,' Francis Nimmo of the University of California at Santa Cruz says. 'It means that other big Kuiper Belt objects out there could have oceans, too.'"

--is erroneous

Why is "tidal heating" happening at the gas giants but then suddenly stops and doesn't happen at Pluto?

How about there is no such thing as tidal heating.
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Re: Electric Pluto

Unread postby GaryN » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:06 pm

Washboard and fluted terrains on Pluto as evidence for ancient glaciation
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https://phys.org/news/2018-11-washboard ... dence.html
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Re: Electric Pluto

Unread postby Cargo » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:02 pm

"The precise mechanism ... is elusive"

With circular reasoning, it always is. I think they try to proof their interpretation based on the interpretation itself.
The suppose that nitrogen ice glaciers millions of years ago after a billions year ago 'impact' created the features that their supposed water with nitrogen ice sublimation would create. Because they already 'know' the geological history. Just need a way to make what they observe to fit their presumptions.
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