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Re: Exoplanet HD 189733b is hot and blue

Unread postby GaryN » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:34 am

How do they deduce so much, given that they are working with data from 1/1000 of a single Hubble pixel? Clever stuff.
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Re: Exoplanet HD 189733b is hot and blue

Unread postby nick c » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:08 pm

It is highly speculative as to what causes the blue color in this exo planet, if that is indeed the case.
In our own system we have two blue planets, Earth and Neptune, each for very different reasons.

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Re: Exoplanet HD 189733b is hot and blue

Unread postby D_Archer » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:34 am

But Neptune is more light green right?

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Re: Exoplanet HD 189733b is hot and blue

Unread postby nick c » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:11 am

D_Archer wrote:But Neptune is more light green right?
Neptune looks quite blue to me. Perhaps you are thinking of Uranus, which has a green-blue tint.

http://www.universetoday.com/33642/the- ... e-planets/
Uranus is light blue-green because there is a large amount of methane gas in the planet. Methane gas absorbs the color red, which means that it bounces back colors from the blue-green side of the spectrum. The colors that bounce back are recorded in photographs and make Uranus blue-green. Some touched-up photos of Uranus, taken by Voyager 2 in 1986, showed the planet as a bright green orb, but that is not the case.

Neptune is also blue because there is a significant amount of methane in the planet. Neptune is a slightly darker blue than Uranus because it is farther from the Sun. Even though they may not be the same vibrant orbs found in magazines, the planets are still stunning objects.


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Re: Exoplanet HD 189733b is hot and blue

Unread postby D_Archer » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:11 am

nick c wrote:
D_Archer wrote:But Neptune is more light green right?
Neptune looks quite blue to me. Perhaps you are thinking of Uranus, which has a green-blue tint.


Ah yes ofcourse, doh.

Neptune is a slightly darker blue than Uranus


Slightly? it is much darker, the atmosphere must have really different composition, can not just be more distance from the sun...

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A Strange Lonely Planet Found without a Star

Unread postby pavlink » Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:53 am

A Strange Lonely Planet Found without a Star
http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/info/press-re ... elyPlanet/

Look at the image.
http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/info/press-re ... et-450.jpg

PSO J318.5 ( in red ) has a partner located SE in blue.

Two brown dwarfs in a double star system.
We live in a double star system.
We need to study double star systems.

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exoplanet PSO J318.5-22 drifts alone in space

Unread postby trevbus » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:35 pm

Is it an unlit star? A gas giant expelled due to gravitational perturbation?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-10/s ... ce/5013996

Planet drifting alone outside solar system detected by Hawaii telescope
Updated Thu 10 Oct 2013, 2:22pm AEDT

Astronomers have found a planet outside the solar system floating alone in space and not orbiting a star.

The gaseous exoplanet, dubbed PSO J318.5-22, is 80 light years from Earth and has a mass only six times that of Jupiter. Having formed 12 million years ago, the planet is considered a newborn among its peers.

"We have never before seen an object free-floating in space that looks like this. It has all the characteristics of young planets found around other stars, but it is drifting out there all alone," said research team leader Michael Liu of the Institute for Astronomy at the University of Hawaii at Manoa.

"I often wondered if such solitary objects exist, and now we know they do."

The researchers, whose study was published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters, identified the planet from its faint and unique heat signature using the Pan-STARRS 1 wide-field survey telescope on the Haleakala volcano of Hawaii's Maui island.

They suggested the newly found planet may have the lowest mass of all known freely floating objects.

Other telescopes in Hawaii showed the planet has similar properties to those of gas giants orbiting around young stars, but PSO J318.5-22 lacks a host star.

During the past decade, researchers have found about a thousand extrasolar planets using indirect methods, including planet-induced wobbling or dimming of their host stars.

But only a handful of these planets have been observed directly since most are orbiting around young stars less than 200 million years old and thus very bright.

PSO J318.5-22 "is going to provide a wonderful view into the inner workings of gas-giant planets like Jupiter shortly after their birth," said co-author Niall Deacon of the Max Planck Institute for Astronomy in Germany.

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Re: exoplanet PSO J318.5-22 drifts alone in space

Unread postby pavlink » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:21 am

trevbus wrote:Is it an unlit star? A gas giant expelled due to gravitational perturbation?

To extract energy from electrical field you need second point of contact.

Any star needs a partner.

These are two brown dwarfs in a double star system.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14649

PSO J318.5 is gradually growing with the new matter it fusions.
The partner is compacting its mass into neutrons becoming more efficient transfer point for the double.
We live in a double star system.
We need to study double star systems.

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Re: exoplanet PSO J318.5-22 drifts alone in space

Unread postby Sparky » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:02 am

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PSO J318.5 is gradually growing with the new matter it fusions.
The partner is compacting its mass into neutrons becoming more efficient transfer point for the double.


Growth from fusion? :? Neutron masses?

To extract energy from electrical field you need second point of contact.


What do you mean by this? What "one point" of contact are you referring to? :?
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Re: exoplanet PSO J318.5-22 drifts alone in space

Unread postby pavlink » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:40 am

Sparky wrote:What do you mean by this? What "one point" of contact are you referring to? :?

A voltmeter is an instrument used for measuring electrical potential difference between two points in an electric circuit.
How many contact points you need to measure the voltage?
Can you measure a potential difference of one point of reference?
What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Fusion - the process of creation of new atoms, like in the Sun, and in the center of the planets, including Earths core.
We live in a double star system.
We need to study double star systems.

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Re: exoplanet PSO J318.5-22 drifts alone in space

Unread postby Sparky » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:22 pm

Sparky wrote:pavlink
PSO J318.5 is gradually growing with the new matter it fusions.
The partner is compacting its mass into neutrons becoming more efficient transfer point for the double.


Ignorant nonsense!


Growth from fusion? :? Neutron masses? nonsense!


To extract energy from electrical field you need second point of contact.


What do you mean by this? What "one point" of contact are you referring to? :?


pav
A voltmeter is an instrument used for measuring electrical potential difference between two points in an electric circuit.
How many contact points you need to measure the voltage?
Can you measure a potential difference of one point of reference?
What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Your attempt to be clever fails miserably.

Fusion - the process of creation of new atoms, like in the Sun, and in the center of the planets, including Earths core.


Fusion creates different elements from the matter that is available, DOES NOT CREATE NEW MATTER! AND neutrons can not be compressed into a mass!

Have you ever used a voltmeter? http://www.galco.com/buy/Fluke/I1010

So what does extracting energy have to do with measuring voltage, and there was no mention of a circuit?
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Re: exoplanet PSO J318.5-22 drifts alone in space

Unread postby pavlink » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:41 am

Sparky wrote:Fusion creates different elements from the matter that is available, DOES NOT CREATE NEW MATTER! AND neutrons can not be compressed into a mass!


Energy to matter transformation is going by the following levels.
charge photon - ultraviolet photon - electron - proton ( the simplest atom )
neutron is a proton with reversed external spin.
Then it proceeds forming other elements by combining protons and neutrons.

Sparky wrote:Have you ever used a voltmeter? http://www.galco.com/buy/Fluke/I1010

What you refer to is a CURRENT PROBE not a voltmeter.

look here: http://www.galco.com/buy/Fluke/FLUKE-117
this is a "miltimeter" that includes voltmeter function.
Take note of the cables.
They are two one red and one black.
To make the voltage measurement you need to connect both to different contact points.

Sparky wrote:So what does extracting energy have to do with measuring voltage, and there was no mention of a circuit?

Electrical circuits in the sky power the stars.
An electrical circuit provides the connection between the source and the load.
The load ( the stars ) extract energy from the source.
Where electrical energy is transfered you have electrical current.
Electrical current needs potential difference ( measured in Volts ) in order to flow.
Potential difference is measured between two different points.
Even if you call the second point a "ground" it is still a second point different from the first.
We live in a double star system.
We need to study double star systems.

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Re: exoplanet PSO J318.5-22 drifts alone in space

Unread postby Sparky » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:52 am

I did not recheck that link, and it was to a multimeter, not the induction meter. The point is that induction can be used to measure current and voltage. Induction can also be used to extract electrical energy from a circuit. No points of polarity difference are needed. Here is the image of a clamp meter. Image


pav:
Energy to matter transformation is going by the following levels.

You are still wrong! Go study fusion! Energy, free floating, is not possible!
Energy is contained withing the matter that is bombarding and transmuting matter!
NO NEW matter is generated! It is transmuted.!!

Explaining your limited knowledge of a multimeter is not any argument for your incomprehension of your own posts. You posted something entirely different than what you are arguing.

If you are going to use condescending sarcasm to reply to questions, you really need to understand what you are talking about! Flash ! You are not as superior as you pretend to be!
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Re: exoplanet PSO J318.5-22 drifts alone in space

Unread postby pavlink » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:41 am

Sparky wrote:I did not recheck that link, and it was to a multimeter, not the induction meter. The point is that induction can be used to measure current and voltage. Induction can also be used to extract electrical energy from a circuit. No points of polarity difference are needed. Here is the image of a clamp meter. Image


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Item Number: I1010
Brand: Fluke
Item Category: Multimeters
Subcategory: Clamp
Series: I1010
Temperature Readings: No
Averaging or True RMS: No
Max Current AC: 600 Amps
Max Current DC: 1,000 Amps
Frequency: 10 KiloHertz
NIST Certified: No
Continuity W/ Diode Test: No
Backlight: No
Auto Ranging: No
Mirrored Scale: No
Jaw Size: 1.18 Inches
H x W x D (in.): 18 x 16 x 31
Net Weight: 41 lb 8 oz
Gross Weight: 41 lb 8 oz


No voltage as you see.

yes, induction is used in electrical circuits to transfer energy.
like in "Resonant inductive coupling":
Resonant inductive coupling or electrodynamic induction is the near field wireless transmission of electrical energy between two coils that are tuned to resonate at the same frequency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonant_ ... e_coupling

Do you suggest all the stars are powered by near field resonance transfer?
What is the resonant frequency for the Sun?
Where is the source?
Is it local for a star or single source for all the stars in a given galaxy?
In case of one source, all the stars must be trained on it, all must resonate synchronously.
Can you provide empirical data in support of such theory?
We live in a double star system.
We need to study double star systems.

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Re: exoplanet PSO J318.5-22 drifts alone in space

Unread postby Sparky » Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:22 am

Do you suggest all the stars are powered by near field resonance transfer?
What is the resonant frequency for the Sun?
Where is the source?
Is it local for a star or single source for all the stars in a given galaxy?
In case of one source, all the stars must be trained on it, all must resonate synchronously.
Can you provide empirical data in support of such theory?


:roll: You ask a question, then another, then another, then another, and then you give a partial answer to the questions you asked. Then ask if I can provide empirical data to lend support for your conclusion? :roll: Hello!
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Have you looked up the fusion process? :D
Also, the half life of neutrons and their ability to remain in close proximity to neutrons. :D
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