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Ice/hail formed craters

Unread postby dahlenaz » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:33 am

I don't want to throw a monkey wrench into the works but you might not want to draw a final concluson on the absolute cause of craters until you take a look at what hail stones created on the ground in my area.

http://para-az.com/hail211c.html

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Re: Crater formation videos

Unread postby Cargo » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:13 pm

Are you equating hail stones falling to interstellar impacts?
interstellar filaments conducted electricity having currents as high as 10 thousand billion amperes
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Re: Crater formation videos

Unread postby nick c » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:53 pm

Joseph Priestly in 1766 was conducting experiments with electric discharges onto various metal surfaces. Upon looking at the surfaces later with a microscope he noted the similarity to the surface of the Moon.

June the 14th. I took the spot upon smooth pieces of lead and silver. It was, in both cases, like that on the brass knob, only the silver consisted of dots disposed with the utmost exactness, like radii from the center of the circle, each or which terminated a little short of the external circle. Examining the spots with a microscope, both the shining dots that formed the central spot, and those which formed the external circle, appeared evidently to consist of cavities, resembling those on the moon, as they appear through a telescope, the edges projecting shadows into them, when they were held in the sun.”

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See P. 11
https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/823201

also, the original book, p 625:

https://books.google.com/books?id=c3QgK ... &q&f=false
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Re: Crater formation videos

Unread postby Cargo » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:09 pm

Cross link to a related thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=884&p=126543#p126543
'Impact during lunar eclipse'

And why not for good measure:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15870&p=125224#p125210

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Re: Crater formation videos

Unread postby dahlenaz » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:46 pm

Cargo wrote:Are you equating hail stones falling to interstellar impacts?


Not in a 1 to 1 comparison, but there is a strong possibility that secondary craters
might be identifiable through these examples.

Additionally, there are dynamic considerations to make when realizing that we
do not know the characteristics of cratered surfaces at the time or the properties
of the impactor as it closes the final distance. There are alot of unknowns for any
we have not observed.
So, we need to examine them all with care, so as to not fall into the trap of
painting with an overly broad brush,, electrically speaking.

I've already identified several alternative crater formation methods to watch for.
Take a look, sometime, at craters formed in drying paint as gas bubbles burst or those
found in materials that were once molten.

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Re: Crater formation videos

Unread postby moonkoon » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:36 am

I agree that some type of bubble/dome forming activity is a plausible alternative explanation for how some craters are formed.

These Martian craters could perhaps have originated from bubbles or domes which have burst or collapsed. They look like they were formed in a more mobile geological setting, maybe involving localized liquefaction.

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And could this be a collapsed double bubble?

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Re: Crater formation videos

Unread postby nick c » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:37 am

Of course a rock in a high velocity collision with the surface of a planet/moon is going to make some sort of crater. Why would it not?

Though evidently not all meteors produce craters. There are examples of rather large meteorites found on the surface of the Earth that have no associated crater...
The 66 ton Hoba Meteorite left no crater.

And certainly under the conditions of planetary catastrophes the surface of a planet/moon could become so heated that the surface becomes molten and/or there is a flow of lava and that bubbling could result, and when those bubbles collapse or pop a circular crater would form.

But, it seems to me that for most of the planetary surface features the electrical explanation is a best fit.

It must be remembered that invoking any or all of these three possible explanations, as they are not mutually exclusive, involve catastrophes on a planetary scale.
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Re: Crater formation videos

Unread postby dahlenaz » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:06 am

nick c wrote:.....

Though evidently not all meteors produce craters. There are examples of rather large meteorites found on the surface of the Earth that have no associated crater...
The 66 ton Hoba Meteorite left no crater.

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The Hoba Meteorite Looks like a fragment from a bolide...

A fragment would leave a far less durable scare and have flight characteristics
and impact features reflective of its shape and motion at time of impact...

Pieces scattered during a fragmentation event might exhibit heat abrasion on only one surface.

And if that rock has been buried their for hundreds of millions of years,, where's the environmental degradation?

I'd suspect that there is a more accurate explanation, of that object. which remains untold.

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Re: Crater formation videos

Unread postby nick c » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:17 pm

Here are some more examples of large meteorites with seemingly no corresponding crater:
http://www.everythingselectric.com/mete ... o-craters/
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