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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread post by MattEU » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:34 pm

Report on a CME thats details were captured by those Van Allen spacecraft back in 2013. Interpretation of the data depends on the eye of the beholder.

For the first time, spacecraft catch a solar shockwave in the act

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Unread post by Dr_Mat_Hunt » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:59 pm

Can I post some of my own work in electrohydrodynamics? This paper of mine was on using horizontal electric fields to get fluid to adhere on an upper surface thereby overcoming the instability cause by gravity. The work was initially 2D but I am currently working on a 3D version.

http://hyperkahler.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... fluids.pdf

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Unread post by Tusk » Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:06 am

What's In A Candle Flame?

Is a flame really a plasma? Well it depends on your definition of plasma, but there are certainly ions in a flame, formed as molecules collide with each other at high speed, sometimes knocking electrons off of their atoms.

A simple experiment with a candle demonstrates the ability of the flame to enhance electrical conductivity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7_8Gc_Llr8

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond..

Unread post by Dr_Mat_Hunt » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:09 pm

A flame isn't a plasma. What you see as a flame is the combustion of the volatiles driven out of the substance due to heat.

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Unread post by webolife » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:01 pm

Dr_Mat
What would you say generates or is the origin of a plasma?
Also I assume you are familiar with electric water bridges induced by electricity flowing between two containers of water? Is this similar to the stability you are inducing through electric fields on hanging films? Did you study the thermodynamics of your hanging films, ie. the increased temperature occurring with stress? Or does this phenomenon not occur with the films?
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Unread post by Dr_Mat_Hunt » Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:00 pm

If you read the paper, much of the answers will be answered.

I didn't use thermodynamics, which is required if you're using incompressible floes.

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Unread post by comingfrom » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:00 pm

Dr_Mat_Hunt wrote:A flame isn't a plasma. What you see as a flame is the combustion of the volatiles driven out of the substance due to heat.
Flame is the product of an energetic chemical reaction.
When the compounds combust they are split into their elemental atoms [you say volatiles], and energy [the heat].
Free floating energized atoms is plasma.

Since the combustion takes place within the atmosphere, the flame of plasma is rapidly absorbed and neutralized by the atmosphere, hence it is limited in it's size and permanency.
A quick Googling would've provided the answer. Common examples include
  • Lightning..!
    The Sun (from Core to Corona)
    Fluorescent Lights and Neon Signs
    Nebulae (Luminous Clouds in Space)
    The Solar Wind
    Primordial Fusion during the evolution of the Universe
    Magnetic Confinement Fusion Plasmas
    Inertially Confined Fusion Plasmas
    Flames as Plasmas
    Auroras (Northern & Southern Lights)
    Interstellar Space (It's not empty... It's a plasma)
    Quasars, Radiogalaxies, and Galaxies (Emit plasma radiation and microwaves)
    Large Scale Structures of Galaxies (Filamentary and magnetized..!)
    Dense Solid State Matter (When shocked by nuclear explosion or earthquakes which emit both visible light and radio waves)
source: Where on Earth can you find plasma?

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Unread post by lamare » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:03 am

Dr_Mat_Hunt wrote:Can I post some of my own work in electrohydrodynamics? This paper of mine was on using horizontal electric fields to get fluid to adhere on an upper surface thereby overcoming the instability cause by gravity. The work was initially 2D but I am currently working on a 3D version.

http://hyperkahler.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... fluids.pdf
Very interesting you struggle with gravity, for which there still is no reasonable explanation to be found in main stream science.

I found the work from Paul Stowe a while ago, who formulated the basis for an aether-based theory of everything:

http://vixra.org/abs/1310.0237

He is the first one, to my knowledge, who integrated gravity with electrodynamics, by the simple relation:

gravity G = grad E

Recently, I have finally succeeded in re-deriving Maxwell's equations from Stowe's basic aether model and found that Maxwell's original equation for the electric potential is mathematically inconsistent.

Deriving the whole set of equations from an aetheric model using nothing but text book fluid dynamics yields a simple, elegant and complete "theory of everything" which is completely mathematically consistent:

http://www.tuks.nl/wiki/index.php/Main/ ... Everything

Especially the coupling of gravity with the electric field could prove very useful for solving problems with gravity.....

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Unread post by Giffyguy » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:22 am

@MGmirkin
Here's something you can add to Section 5.
Mainstream science has agreed that galaxies produce galaxy-sized electric current along ionized plasma "jets," perpendicular to the galactic planes, shooting outward from the center of the galaxy.

The largest electric current observed/measured by mainstream scientists was found at Galaxy 3C303, with a measured current of 3x1018 amps, across a plasma cloud stretching 150,000 light years (larger than the entire Milky Way).

Cited mainstream sources/publications:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1106.1397v3.pdf
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.3835v1.pdf
https://communityresourcesscied.wikispa ... n+Plan.pdf
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/20 ... found.html
http://www.popsci.com/technology/articl ... years-away
http://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com/top ... event.html
http://io9.gizmodo.com/how-to-use-a-bla ... 1720512774
https://astronomynow.com/2016/06/18/how ... -galaxies/
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/11/ ... ighty-jets
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chand ... y-way.html
https://blog.galaxyzoo.org/2014/01/22/h ... form-jets/

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Unread post by comingfrom » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:54 pm

Interesting, that electricity happens to be a by-product in a gravity driven Universe.

What gets me, is how [they say] the jets are "shooting" outwards from the poles of galactic centers. Angular momentum of the galactic spin should cause material to spray out on the equatorial plane, and to be drawn in at the poles. Is there any chance they have the direction of current in these jets backwards?

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Unread post by Webbman » Tue May 09, 2017 2:21 am

Giffyguy wrote:@MGmirkin
Here's something you can add to Section 5.
Mainstream science has agreed that galaxies produce galaxy-sized electric current along ionized plasma "jets," perpendicular to the galactic planes, shooting outward from the center of the galaxy.

The largest electric current observed/measured by mainstream scientists was found at Galaxy 3C303, with a measured current of 3x1018 amps, across a plasma cloud stretching 150,000 light years (larger than the entire Milky Way).

Cited mainstream sources/publications:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1106.1397v3.pdf
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.3835v1.pdf
https://communityresourcesscied.wikispa ... n+Plan.pdf
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/20 ... found.html
http://www.popsci.com/technology/articl ... years-away
http://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com/top ... event.html
http://io9.gizmodo.com/how-to-use-a-bla ... 1720512774
https://astronomynow.com/2016/06/18/how ... -galaxies/
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/11/ ... ighty-jets
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chand ... y-way.html
https://blog.galaxyzoo.org/2014/01/22/h ... form-jets/

I imagine its a big joke when they come up with a number like 3x10 exp18. This number could not be measured or even estimated with any certainty. I guess the whole point of the article is to put the current in the jet, and not in the arms where all the lightbulbs are. A misdirection if you will.
its all lies.

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Unread post by prioris55555 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:32 pm

that amp measurement struck me too ... they'll be dead long before the world finds out it is a lie

they claim to measure the charge of an electron too ... another made up number ... might as well be measuring charge of a unicorn

i think as long as everyone agrees with it, the math works out

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Unread post by Sithri » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:30 am

prioris55555 wrote:that amp measurement struck me too ... they'll be dead long before the world finds out it is a lie

they claim to measure the charge of an electron too ... another made up number ... might as well be measuring charge of a unicorn

i think as long as everyone agrees with it, the math works out
Talk about an extreme skeptic! :lol:

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Unread post by seasmith » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:30 pm

S,
But priorris55555 is also a realist, although 'derived' might be a bit more politic term.
It works in the same way of any convention, as a very close approximation; and here in mathematical terms which are rife with averages and approximations.
Even the golden ratios involve a modicum of uncertainty, but why should that stop anyone ?

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Unread post by Cargo » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:15 pm

I am very sorry to say, but I only clicked one url in that list, and it has been morphed into holy hell.
What was
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/20 ... found.html
Goes to
https://dailygalaxy.com/2011/06/
And you brain will be hit with this outlandish bullshit
"radio-wave emission may hold the ultimate proof of the existence of dark matter"

THIS! is what is wrong in the world, and the universe. Dark everything.
interstellar filaments conducted electricity having currents as high as 10 thousand billion amperes

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