Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby Dotini » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:09 pm

A new report on the length of the tail of Comet Elenin: >900,000km. Not bad, but by no means the longest ever observed.

http://spaceobs.org/en/tag/comet-elenin/
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby jjohnson » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:24 pm

All I get on this link is 403 Forbidden Error.
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby David Talbott » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:31 pm

Given the apparent long and eccentric orbit of Comet Elenin, it should go without saying that the electric comet hypothesis would consider an impressive cometary display to be most likely--with a real possibility that Elenin will be the first "Great Comet" of the 21st century. By no means am I speaking for Wal Thornhill on this, just expressing an obvious implication of the well publicized electric view.
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby Jarvamundo » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:45 pm

with a real possibility that Elenin will be the first "Great Comet" of the 21st century.


We're a little McNaughty down here... having already snuck one in.... C/2006 P1 ;)

All I get on this link is 403 Forbidden Error.

Same 403 here.. cache has it tho... (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... met+Elenin)
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby IbiZen » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:20 am

Nice to finally hear from Dave...what do you think of the trajectory?

SpaceObs is switching servers, that's why it's down

If anybody is interested there is a facebook group which includes Leonid Elenin http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=gro ... 74610&ap=1
I would love to see this forum more active, but that doesn´t seem to be happening yet...so drop in over there
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby David Talbott » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:47 am

Jarvamundo wrote:
with a real possibility that Elenin will be the first "Great Comet" of the 21st century.

We're a little McNaughty down here... having already snuck one in.... C/2006 P1 ;)
All I get on this link is 403 Forbidden Error.

Same 403 here.. cache has it tho... (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... met+Elenin)


Well, if I’ve overlooked McNaught, the best recourse is probably rationalization. The title “Great Comet” arises substantially from subjective experience, and people's experiences may differ. If you had to be upside down to see it, does it really qualify?

Or how about this? One of the foremost authorities in astronomy is Robert Burnham. His book, Great Comets, does not mention McNaught. And please don’t try to make a point of the fact that it was published in 2000. :oops:
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby IbiZen » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:59 am

Dave, people in the southern hemisphere might not appreciate you saying they are upside down, but they got to see the full McNaught show and we didn't ...even though seeing that little smudge by the statue of liberty was kinda cool.

Back to Elenin...under normal circumstances, it might not even qualify as a great comet, except there is nothing "normal" about its trajectory and timing. Earth has not been through a comet ion tail in modern history, and not had an extended transit through a dust tail (1910 Halley...barely)....we are not talking just great comet here, we are talking possible confirmation of myths, and the fundamentals of EU.
Lets talk about possibilities, not predictions.
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby starbiter » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:41 am

I wonder about the chance of the comet exploding. All that ice so close to the Sun. Just kidding!

Other comets have exploded, so one as negatively charged as this might be a candidate for explosion. Then instead of one comet to worry about, we have many negatively charged pieces to deal with.

Still hoping for a big fizzle. michael
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby IbiZen » Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:26 pm

SB, you have obviously not done your EU homework or you would know it's not ice.
And why do you want to wreck the comet and spoil a once in millenia opportunity?
"worry about it"? Are you scared of it? Are you one of those comet alignment earthquake people? Or a deep impact conspiracist? Noooooo...a brown dwarfer?
Maybe you should disintegrate and dissipate your negative charge
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby starbiter » Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:34 pm

I thought the ice comment was obviously said tongue in cheek. I said i was kidding was an exclamation point.

As i stated earlier, there is a chance of electrical disruption with comet encounters. L.A. and Orange County are not viable without electricity. I believe Tunguska and the Chicago Fire might have been comet fragments. I hope the odds of electrical problems are low. At the same time, i feel free to discuss the potential, mainly electrical, problems.


Wal's 8 part Thunderblog on comets is excellent.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/index.htm

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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby IbiZen » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:06 pm

Don´t worry, I was in NYC in 2003 for the blackout....amazing experience, brought out the best in everybody.
LA and OC's power consumption is at the environmental expense of a large swath of the country.
The biggest question is the effect of the plasma tail.

Cant wait for Wal´s input here.
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby starbiter » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:15 pm

Hello again IbiZen: If You think i'm making this up, see below. Comets can cause CMEs, or discharge to planets,according to my EU reading.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... gtonflare/

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/ ... years-ago/

The Carrington Event might have been problematic for vulnerable printed circuits not shielded by a Faraday Cage. Try to imagine no printed circuits.

The plasma tail, as You say, might also be a problem. Hopefully not!




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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby Osmosis » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:01 pm

It might be wise to buy some stock in a copper screen factory :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby blackbird » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:29 pm

IbiZen wrote:Are you one of those comet alignment earthquake people?


Fact is.. ±5 days of the last two Comet Elenin alignments with Earth and the Sun respectively, there has been an earthquake over 8.8.

If you want to ignore patterns, be my guest. But most of us, privy to scientific method, wouldn't dare ignore or mock someone who cares to raise awareness to an interesting pattern, with correlating data. Now without knowing exactly the system charge capacities, potential differences, temperatures, electrical coupling conditions, distances, velocities, polarisations, etc, etc, it would be arrogant to just blindly assume fantasy.
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Re: Comet Elenin on anyone's radar yet?

Unread postby kiwi » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:28 am

IbiZen wrote:Dave, people in the southern hemisphere might not appreciate you saying they are upside down,


we're ok ...by nature we tend to filter out the back-ground noise ... ;)

Cant wait for Wal´s input here.


in spite of his "spin" orientation :D

starbiter wrote:I believe Tunguska and the Chicago Fire might have been comet fragments. I hope the odds of electrical problems are low. At the same time, i feel free to discuss the potential, mainly electrical, problems.



I think we had this conversation a few weeks back SB? ..... and an interesting take it was ,... btw ... congratulations on your 3 year anniversary on the Forum...... 8-)
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