Relatively little is known about plasma? Are they serious??

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Relatively little is known about plasma? Are they serious??

Unread postby MGmirkin » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:52 pm

(Journey Into the Science of the Sun)
http://www.wired.com/science/discoverie ... ery_plasma

They actually said this with a straight face?

But even though plasma is the most common state of matter in the universe, relatively little is known about how it works. Scientists hope that by studying it in the lab, they may understand the sun's fusion energy, which would provide limitless, clean power for the planet.


Apparently they're unaware of IEEE's journal(s) in plasma physics? Or, well, ANYthing about plasma?

I mean, hello...?? Read Birkeland! Read Alfven! Read Langmuir! Read CER Bruce & Eric Crew. Read Bostick. Read Peratt / Dessler. Read Thornhill, Scott & Ransom (maybe not *AS* widely published as some of the priors, but still).
Though they weren't plasma scientists per se (I think), read ER Rathbun and Bernard Vonnegut!

It's not rocket science, folks! Though I guess it is PLASMA SCIENCE... Heck, it's even got its own peer reviewed IEEE journal (as mentioned above):

(IEEE Transactions on Plasma Science)
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/RecentIs ... unumber=27

The notion that plasmas are not well understood appears to be something of a bit of rubbish. Perhaps plasma science isn't perfect, but A LOT *IS* known about plasma. Now, if astrophysicists and solar physicists would just apply some of what Birkeland and Alfven pioneered [correctly], we MIGHT just get somewhere... 'Til then, it's a crapshoot, apparently!

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Re: Relatively little is known about plasma? Are they serious??

Unread postby davesmith_au » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:07 pm

Wow Michael, vent! I thought for a second I was reading one of Kwicky's posts... :lol:

Of course they should have simply said "Plasma has been largely ignored by mainstream scientists because they fail to understand it..." :shock:

or

"... little is known by mainstream commentators about how it works because we refuse to ask the right questions of those scientists and engineers (you know, people who actually design working things) who DO know... :o In fact we're so scared some of our precious funding may be diverted in their direction that we actively ignore them and supress their work at the expense of both truth and progress... :? but hey, it's a living... ;) "

Too harsh? Well, perhaps we should re-name the thread "Plasma vents..." 8-)
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Re: Relatively little is known about plasma? Are they serious??

Unread postby junglelord » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:07 am

Little is exposed or admitted to at the public level about the EU and Plasma Science and Plasma History because of National Security, cough!
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Re: Relatively little is known about plasma? Are they serious??

Unread postby MGmirkin » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:29 am

junglelord wrote:Little is exposed or admitted to at the public level about the EU and Plasma Science and Plasma History because of National Security, cough!


*Hands junglelord a Ricola lozenge* :D
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Re: Relatively little is known about plasma? Are they serious??

Unread postby Plasmatic » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:20 pm

Ricola ? , that wont help a black ops cough!..... :lol: Damn they move quick huh!! ;)
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Re: Relatively little is known about plasma? Are they serious??

Unread postby junglelord » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:26 pm

"Holy Flying Triangles Batman"
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Naw they know very little about plasma....at least not anything they will admit too.
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