Ticking stellar time bomb identified

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Ticking stellar time bomb identified

Post by solrey » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:07 am

Ticking stellar time bomb identified

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In the EU, we identify that as a z-pinch column.
"One of the major problems in modern astrophysics is the fact that we still do not know exactly what kinds of stellar system explode as a Type Ia supernova," says Patrick Woudt, from the University of Cape Town and lead author of the paper reporting the results. "As these supernovae play a crucial role in showing that the Universe's expansion is currently accelerating, pushed by a mysterious dark energy, it is rather embarrassing."
:roll:

On the first italicized point: Aflven stressed that double layers should be classified as a unique cosmic phenomena.
On the second point: They should be totally embarrassed by constantly invoking that mysterious dark energy that still leaves them...in the dark.
Yep, "modern" astrophysics definitely has some major problems.
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Re: Ticking stellar time bomb identified

Post by kc0itf » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:31 pm

Here's the story from the aptly-named Bad Astronomy...

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badas ... time-bomb/

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Re: Ticking stellar time bomb identified

Post by earls » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:32 pm

Binary system. Birkeland currents?

No Hydrogen, only Helium. Alpha radiation?

What if it dims? Lower current density? Or ___________?

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Re: Ticking stellar time bomb identified

Post by solrey » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:11 pm

Oops, should have been more specific.

Sausage instability.

Around the middle of the page is section 6 on the sausage instability.
For the visually oriented, see Fig. 12.

also:

Development of sausage-type instability in a Z-pinch plasma column
The development of sausage-type instabilities in an initially homogeneous Z-pinch plasma column has been investigated by means of numerical modelling. It is shown that in the presence of short-wave perturbations of a Z-pinch boundary and a rarefied plasma surrounding the pinch, cavities filled with a rarefied plasma and with a magnetic field are formed in the plasma column. As a result of this cavity growth, small columns of dense plasma form on the axis in the Z-pinch which have a temperature substantially higher than the average plasma temperature in the plasma column. When deuterium is present in the pinch, these dense high temperature bunches can become a source of intensive neutron radiation
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Re: Ticking stellar time bomb identified

Post by jjohnson » Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:58 am

Solrey - thanks for the link to the book. I've tentatively placed it on my list of "get sometime soon" references. A quick review makes it look apropos to our investigations in learning to understand how things work based on the postulates of plasma cosmology and electrical interactions in the 'verse. If you'd care to give a brief summary of your impression of it, I'd love to see it. Either here, for broader visibility, or to me via e-mail. Jim

The pinched cylindrical current picture with obscuring dust ring cutting across the center is an iconic picture of the typical 'planetary nebula" form. I have stated elsewhere that this looks more like a stellar start-up than "the death throes of a dying star, soon to go nova or collapse into a neutron star or pulsar". I would be curious to find out if, once a star is generated within a pinch condition, does the pair of entwined Birkeland current filaments unwind, and the star continues on, fed by the larger, less dense galactic arm current, or does something else go on that I haven't even thought of, as the star is maintained in some nominal condition for extended lengths of time. Under the hypothesis (Arp, Peratt) that galaxies are generated this way, or by ejection from 'active' galaxies as quasars, when and how do their stars initially light off? What gets the Birkeland currents formed in the first place, in other words.

The observation in the article, that not knowing which stellar populations "give rise" to Type 1A supernovas is more embarrassing [than they like] is just the tip of the iceberg. Its consequences lead to more serious, fundamental problems. Type 1A's are currently their best and most reliable "standard candle". Standard candles of some kind are needed to estimate distances to observable objects which are out beyond the grasp of parallax measurements. There are not that many Cepheid variables to gauge everywhere, and I am not sure how far out their brightening and dimming can reliably be observed. If it turns out that 1A's are not standard, then the expansion rate posited for the universe is called into question, along with the purported link between red shifts, recession velocity, and therefore the estimated sizes and brightnesses of much of the astronomical work for decades. What if 1A's are not supernovas after all, but the double sheath explosive release of electrical charge postulated under EU concepts? Then what? It's back to square one for expansion, distance, Hubble Constant, and Big Bang. Almost everything. It's all downhill on the western slopes of life!

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Re: Ticking stellar time bomb identified

Post by mharratsc » Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:25 am

ROFL- a "vampire star"!! Ooh! Ahh! :o

Listen to this person show a complete lack of even high school physics knowledge:
The debris did not expand spherically because the two stars are in a tight orbit, circling each other rapidly. The matter drawn off the normal star forms a thick disk around the white dwarf. When the material on the surface exploded, it couldn’t go through the disk, so it went up and down, above and below the disk. Over time it forms what’s called a bipolar structure, because it comes out of the poles of the star. We see lots of similar bipolar objects, but not usually in a system that’s about to go bye-bye.
Seriously, wow...

We really need to get some presidents, prime ministers... someone with some clout on the bandwagon with us. This sewage passing for Scientific Method these days is horrendous!

Here's what gets me- why is it that no real physicists/mathematicians even care enough to call out B.S. like what is posted above? Can no one quickly do the math to prove that no inert, neutral gases from an explosion would give a rat's bunghole about two whirling spheres orbiting each other??
Let's try an experiment! Lets spin two billiard balls around each other on a platform, and tie an M-80 to one of them. According to these mental goliaths- the explosive energy AND matter will be shoot out the ends rather than blow the balls to smithereens! :roll:

I just get so frustrated that these people can be publicly stupid with absolute impugnity. :\


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Re: Ticking stellar time bomb identified

Post by nick c » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:23 pm

For general reference purposes on nova and supernova:
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/ ... c-nova.htm]Electric Supernova[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/ ... losion.htm]Deep Space Explosion Baffles Astronomers[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2009/ ... double.htm]Double Layer Detonation[/url2]
[url2=http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2009/ ... oviews.htm]Two Views of Supernova[/url2]
[url2=http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=re6qxnz1]Supernova 1987a Decoded[/url2]

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Re: Ticking stellar time bomb identified

Post by vic » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:40 pm

Hello Mike H,

It is fine to fume about what we really need may I suggest there is a wonderful opportunity for you to become one of those " presidents, prime ministers... someone with some clout on the bandwagon with us. "

Human nature being what it is unless you "do it yourself it won't be done".

I'll even vote for you - when are you nominating?

Perhaps you could start by teaching these people who do not understand high school physics. Big job that's over half the world.

Vic.

mharratsc wrote:ROFL- a "vampire star"!! Ooh! Ahh! :o

Listen to this person show a complete lack of even high school physics knowledge:
The debris did not expand spherically because the two stars are in a tight orbit, circling each other rapidly. The matter drawn off the normal star forms a thick disk around the white dwarf. When the material on the surface exploded, it couldn’t go through the disk, so it went up and down, above and below the disk. Over time it forms what’s called a bipolar structure, because it comes out of the poles of the star. We see lots of similar bipolar objects, but not usually in a system that’s about to go bye-bye.
Seriously, wow...

We really need to get some presidents, prime ministers... someone with some clout on the bandwagon with us. This sewage passing for Scientific Method these days is horrendous!

Here's what gets me- why is it that no real physicists/mathematicians even care enough to call out B.S. like what is posted above? Can no one quickly do the math to prove that no inert, neutral gases from an explosion would give a rat's bunghole about two whirling spheres orbiting each other??
Let's try an experiment! Lets spin two billiard balls around each other on a platform, and tie an M-80 to one of them. According to these mental goliaths- the explosive energy AND matter will be shoot out the ends rather than blow the balls to smithereens! :roll:

I just get so frustrated that these people can be publicly stupid with absolute impugnity. :\


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V445 Puppis, plasma or what?

Post by tayga » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:26 am

Apologies if anyone has already posted on this but I thought the ESO pictures of V445 Puppis are the most glaring example of a plasma phenomenon I've seen for a while. The explanation given for the collimation (at Bad Astronomy) are hilarious and evidence a command of physics usually seen in a 7 year old.

http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/pres ... 43-09.html

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badas ... ent-228612
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Re: V445 Puppis, plasma or what?

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