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Space Bubble

Post by GaryN » Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:13 pm

Giant space bubble pours out hydrogen.

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Professor Dimes at the VOSINO Center for Resonance Research on Vancouver Island explains:

" This is a beautiful example of an early stage of star formation. At the centre of the bubble is the electromagnetic oscillator, powered by a large but low energy density Birkland current. (Not visible in the image)
This bubble is a resonant cavity that is accumulating the charge neccessary to produce the 'bits' that make up hydrogen, which are the electon and the proton, or hydrogen ion, which are fermions.
To keep it simple, we won't go into the Pauli exclusion principle, or talk about spin, or photon pair production.
When the pressure from the quantity of 'bits' in the shell is high enough, they will migrate through the shell. Think of the shell as a big balloon, it has a low surface tension, and the bits can squeeze through pores to the surface.
Once the bits are on the outside of the shell, they 'cool down', and at a certain point they pair up, crating an atom of hydrogen. You can see the hydrogen drifting off into space. As the star progresses, it will have more shells inside it, of higher energies, which will produce all the elements we observe in other stars"
When asked about the idea that the bubble was from a planetary nebula, Professor Dimes just rolled his eyes, shook his head, and chuckled. :geek:
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by junglelord » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:02 pm

Very nice find...thanks.
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by bboyer » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:26 pm

Link to the source for the quotation or photo? Online search turned up nothing for either a Professor Dimes or VOSINO (or VOS INO), or Center for Resonance Research on Vancouver Island etc. Just curious.
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by Lloyd » Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:40 pm

* Apparently the image is real, because checking the image properties shows it comes from New Scientist.
* I didn't find the image anywhere, but I didn't try the New Scientist website.
* I found these images in a search for "space bubble".
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/img/ ... 160804.jpg
http://images.astronet.ru/pubd/2006/10/ ... ouquet.jpg
http://lemurking.files.wordpress.com/20 ... opeia1.jpg
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0001/bubble_hst.jpg

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Re: Space Bubble

Post by bboyer » Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:54 pm

Thanks for the heads-up re the image properties. Found a New Scientist reference, along with photo, here.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... ggest.html

http://www.newscientist.com/data/images ... -2_300.jpg
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by Grey Cloud » Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:02 pm

If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.

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Re: Space Bubble

Post by bboyer » Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:07 pm

Thanks, GC. Same thing I came up with; no mention of Vancouver Island resources that I saw.
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by Lloyd » Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:25 pm

* These 2 that GreyCloud linked to seem the most relevant.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/rk7861l5l6324386
H. Keren1 and J. L. Hirshfield1
(1) Section of Applied Physics, Yale University, Yale Station, P.O. Box 2159, 06520 New Haven, Connecticut
Received: 1 September 1981
Abstract The influence of space charge forces on the performance of a single cavity gyrotron oscillator which uses a solid electron beam was investigated. It was found that space charge effects cause a large efficiency degradation as the beam current is increased, if the other experimental parameters are unchanged. A small increase in the magnetic field, however, can restore the efficiency to higher values.
Key words microwave generators - space charge effects - gyrotrons


Electrochemistry
In laboratory research we are usually interested in investigating the electrode ..... since the convective flow is towards and not from the centre of the disc. ...... The resonance Raman effect has been applied to electrochemical cells, ...... We consider the application of a sinusoidal voltage V = Vosino)t (A2.1) ...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6765321/Electrochemistry
* This second one also has the word Vosino, if that's a word.

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Re: Space Bubble

Post by GaryN » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:48 pm

:oops: Oh, sorry fellas, I'm sure I posted that in NIAMI! Hope you may have learned something on your wild goose chase! I was just trying to inject a little humor.(V0S1N0 is my local post code).
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by bboyer » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:51 pm

GaryN wrote::oops: Oh, sorry fellas, I'm sure I posted that in NIAMI! Hope you may have learned something on your wild goose chase! I was just trying to inject a little humor.(V0S1N0 is my local post code).

You did post it in NIAMI, Gary. I moved it here as I thought it quite apropos. So you aren't losing it. ;)
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by junglelord » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:59 am

Now I am disappointed. I thought there was some mainstream cosmologist talking about the EU.
I disregarded the inside/outside hydrogen hypothosis, as some sideline he invented.
I was just glad to see someone say it was not a nebula....DOOH!
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by solrey » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:06 pm

The Cygnus Bubble Nebula, Designation PN G75.5+1.7, very much like Abell39.

Good closeup from Kitt Peak.

This is no joke, quoted from the first link:
L. Kohoutek, University of Hamburg, writes that he can see PN G75.5+1.7 on both red and blue "transparencies" of the second Palomar Sky Survey (but not on the first POSS photographs), noting that the nebula is extremely faint there (only a trace), but having the same size as on the current images. Also, the blue star in the center is of similar brightness at all epochs; this does not support a nova nebula, as the nebula has not changed in about sixteen years. Spectroscopy is encouraged, though this will be difficult because of its faintness.
There ya go junglelord, happy now? :D

The IAU issued an electronic telegram regarding the discovery status and official designation of this object (July 16, 2009). The IAU notes that the object was previously unrecognized. It is now designated PN G75.5+1.7

That's why we have this new story, it was recently made official.

Maybe phenomena like this are merely as simple as the result of particle sorting in a diffuse plasma, triggered by the energy release of a nearby discharge, and we're seeing the DL that separates a weak charge differential between the bubble-like plasma cell and the surrounding medium.
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by GaryN » Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:23 pm

Move me down to NIAM if you like, but, I think with Abel 39 we are seeing just a more energetic or evolved device. As a refinement of my bogus description, the EM oscillator is a cavity resonance device (magnetron), the shell is like our ionospere which will keep in some frequencies and bounce them around.
Abel 39 looks closer to an argon plasma color, but there is no table that I can find that shows the colors of various elements at different ionisation levels.

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http://zone.aees.kyushu-u.ac.jp/Gallery ... nglish.htm
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by solrey » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:58 pm

I think they're guessing at the distance. It might not be nearly as far away as they think.
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Re: Space Bubble

Post by earls » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:15 am

Should be lab testable, as is any EU theory.

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