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Cosmic Rays and their implications to solar physics.

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:25 pm

https://arxiv.org/abs/1510.07683

I've recently gotten a lot more interested in studying cosmic rays and thinking about their content and their implication as it relates to solar physics and astrophysics.

In terms of the highest speed charged particles in the universe, the fastest, most abundant forms of current which we observe from space are contained in high speed ions that are slamming onto the suns atmosphere, and all of the various bodies in the solar system constantly. Apparently 99 percent of all cosmic rays are positively charged ions. About 1 percent of cosmic rays are pretty evenly divided between electrons and positrons, with positrons being fewer in number at the lower kinetic energy states while composing a majority at the higher kinetic energy states. if we assume that the electrons and positron "ambiplasma" is pretty much net neutral with respect to charge, that means that the vast majority of the inbound flow of high speed charged particles are net positive ions of various types.

IMO, that particular observation of the relative charge of "space', tends to support Birkeland's cathode solar model better than it supports Juergen's anode model.

The paper would also seem to imply that electrons are less massive, and therefore their loss of kinetic energy is more affected by Bremsstrahlung than heavier high speed ions. That would tend to explain why there's such a high ratio of ions vs high speed electrons/positrons.

The cosmic rays seem to all show a pattern that is consistent with a single source as I'm "interpreting' the paper.

Does that seem like a reasonable premise and interpretation to others, or am I just being biased, and/or am I missing something important here? I'm really looking for feedback on this issue.
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Re: Cosmic Rays and their implications to solar physics.

Unread postby D_Archer » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:42 am

Very interesting to think about, i do not have an answer really.

I did find this picture interesting, the moon seen in gamma ray energy levels:

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What does it mean for the Sun.....

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Re: Cosmic Rays and their implications to solar physics.

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Re: Cosmic Rays and their implications to solar physics.

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:15 pm

I really don't understand how I could have scientifically overlooked cosmic rays as a source of external current and external kinetic energy flowing into the planets and into the solar atmosphere for so long. The more I study and think about the (near light) speed velocity of the positive composition of cosmic rays, the more I realize that Birkeland correctly predicted the relative charge of the surface of the sun with respect to "space", but there's a bit more to the story because high speed charged particle current is also flowing inbound toward the sun at some 87+ percent of the speed of light, up to 99+ percent of the speed of light depending on the specific cosmic ray and it's source.

Cosmic rays demonstrate the fact that there is a net positive flow of charged ions flowing through our solar system and into the sun 24/7, so the concept of including the effects (and physics) of inbound charged particle flow is ultimately appropriate. Juergen's may have gotten the polarity backwards, but he was probably on the right track in terms of the need to add the kinetic energy of external current, and the resistance to the high speed flow of that external current into the equations.

I suspect that these high speed ion streams sometimes show up as 'coronal rain' in the solar atmosphere as they bombard the surface of sun with streams of high speed positively charged ions. A high speed inbound flow of current really would tend to explain a lot of about a few of the solar images that I still struggle with, coronal rain images as well.
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Re: Cosmic Rays and their implications to solar physics.

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"Our laws of force tend to be applied in the Newtonian sense in that for every action there is an equal reaction, and yet, in the real world, where many-body gravitational effects or electrodynamic actions prevail, we do not have every action paired with an equal reaction." — Harold Aspden
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Re: Cosmic Rays and their implications to solar physics.

Unread postby jacmac » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:59 am

Yes.
Also, any particles, charged or not, coming into the VERY HOT Corona would be stripped down
to their basic parts; protons and electrons.
Adding to the fuel for an electric fire.
Not a fire as we know them caused by electricity,
but a fire OF ELECTRICITY.

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Re: Cosmic Rays and their implications to solar physics.

Unread postby kodybatill » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:19 pm

Happy New Year!!!!

This is going to be simple but complex, so please hold with me.

So I just did some figuring with some models in my family book - and I think that gamma ray (particle) type energies, before becoming positive charges - can pass through plasma, and if they do, the neutron/circumference of all positrons/colors around opposites is replaced for the proton/volume of those positrons/colors around opposites now rising above each-other.
And then if able to come into contact with a Bose-Einstein condensate type material after that - or more simply, Universal Water - in-between the movement of any D/C vertical line - the proton/volume of something moving too fast to use, is replaced by the neutron/circumference of trying to slow that thing down - literally. But maybe a type of torque or vortex or plasmon could describe it - and also it's energy is divided by how-ever-many vertical moving electron neutrinos are moving through the Bose-Einstein condensate and the plasma.

And then if - what-ever is left over after the Bose-Einstein condensate - moves in more of a D/C vertical direction of up - the original energy of the Gamma rays have two more steps to get through before becoming a Net charge of the general positive charge at the end (which the end positive charge can be net negative AND net positive, periodically). These energies first have to move from the Bose-Einstein condensate/Universal water - to UV light or always first generation purple positrons - and at point of origination and mergence with more UV - the D/C vertical line now replaces the neutron/circumference of moving closer to neutron/circumference - with the proton/volume of taking electron neutrinos - again - all of this only occurs if the information present - has originated from Gamma radiation and different forms of decay - and moved through the steps mentioned, which sometimes the whole signal can just end at Gamma radiation if the appropriate elements are used as super conductors like phosphorus or even phosphorus positrons........

But then, if the information makes it past this, Positive charge is situated just beyond: Replacing the electron/diameter of moving closer to neutron/circumference - with the electron neutrino of taking positrons/colors around opposites.
At that point Transition metals take on a net positive charge, while causing extra positrons, neutrons, electrons, and electron neutrinos to be found in the plasma - but both can also become magnetized to repel or attract positive and negative charges in different ways. I believe that the seed signal of Transition metal information, is in the Muonic Hydrogen - which I believe was the very first element directly after the first existence of Positrons, which are not dark matter or, I would say, not even anti-matter - except that at certain points, the positrons/colors around opposites can cancel each-other out. There are positrons of so many different sizes, that if they completely cancel out even many times, it almost doesn't matter - the 28+1 different positrons that I know of, are very intricately linked. Large positrons wont cancel out, and will carry information sometimes of the smaller positrons that do cancel out - to far distances - or most of the time to a Muon or even Near-neutron inert gas - and can be taken all of a sudden by almost any size nucleus of near-infra-red Gases (some can be pretty big) and then bestow those Positrons very fast and at far distances (there are some Near-infra-red inert gases that have zero temperature, inertia and mass.) - But these are positrons that I am talking about - while the different energies move in different ways.

if a signal was to have started from Muons and Electron neutrinos merging together at first to create positrons at a much earlier time than the gamma signal and different forms of decay - the out-come would be slightly different. Near-infra-red inert gases would take the Positrons - and if started at Gamma rays - Near-neutron inert gases would take in the positrons - and give them over to some other force that accelerates these near-neutron inert gases - like electron neutrinos. This creates folds of attracting and repelling Near-neutron inert gases and electron neutrinos (which repel themselves) - that just may accelerate the electron neutrinos to close to the speed of light (along with some of the Positrons) - where as Near-infra-red inert gases achieve this inherently because of the Near-infra-red inert gas that is zero temperature, mass and inertia. It is all fractal and cyclic. And marvelous.
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Re: Cosmic Rays and their implications to solar physics.

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Re: Cosmic Rays and their implications to solar physics.

Unread postby Solar » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:38 pm

Hot Spots *might* indicate filamentary interaction on the one hand, whereas "air showers" might indicate radial, or wider spread (CR "breakdown"), activity on the other. The anticorrelation of CR modulation activity has also been associated with Coronal Holes during data coalesced over the last solar cycle. One has to wonder if CR absorption in the Sun presents the Solar version of "air showers" by inducing coronal holes. Nonetheless at Earth, filaments have been 'noticed near' two Hot Spots. One filament near the Hot Spot in the Northern Hemisphere (Ice Cube), and another filament detected near the Hot Spot far too shy to better concentrate itself in the Southern Hemisphere (Auger Observatory). *No direct correlations though*.

In the subsection section titled "Getting Hotter" this article barely mentions the two hotspots and the two respective filaments observed.

The potential exist that one day CR activity might be one of the tools of Messenger Astronomy. Despite a variety of naming conventions Astrophysics is trying to correlate the dynamics of larger scale Cosmic activities which might reveal the circuital relationships ("dark matter filaments") between Sun and Milky Way, then Milky Way and other galaxies, then onward towards galaxies and their clusters. Although this relationship is already known to exist progress is slow; yet speedy. That’s not something to miss out on. It could happen in one's lifetime at a moments notice.
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