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Quiet Sun

Post by shonlove » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:03 pm

In the Electric Star model both of these effects can be explained by a less electric current flowing into the Sun - correct?

No Sun spots, dimmer star:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8008473.stm

Shrinking solar 'bubble':
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... nking.html

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Shon

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Re: Quiet Sun

Post by MGmirkin » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:39 pm

shonlove wrote:In the Electric Star model both of these effects can be explained by a less electric current flowing into the Sun - correct?

No Sun spots, dimmer star:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8008473.stm

Shrinking solar 'bubble':
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... nking.html

Thanks,
Shon
Well, let's see...

Don Scott's site is here:

http://electric-cosmos.org/

One relevant page is here:
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/hrdiagr.htm

Talks about current density and star type / color / brightness. So there might be something to brightness variations with incoming current density.

Another relevant page is here:
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/sun.htm

It talks about sunspots specifically. It implies that sunspots may be due to reduced currents leading to a breakdown of the anode tufting, allowing us to see into the cooler, dimmer portions of whatever's below the surface tufting. But, since the tufting breaks down, positive ions may be able to rush out constituting a large current in the region?

However, I might also point out that Thornhill's model of sunspots seems slight different.

http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=s9ke93mf

He approaches the idea from the point of view of the sun having an equatorial plasma torus that stores electrical energy. A ring current, I believe. Not unlike the Van Allen Belts or the equatorial plasma bands recent discovered (a few years ago now)... His hypothesis has the equatorial torus discharging to the sun, not unlike Birkeland's terella experiments showing a banding around the magnetic equator and various lit up spots where discharges were occurring. Granted, the terella wasn't tufted over, so one probably wouldn't see "sunspots," per se, just spots where currents were touching down.

Though in both models, there does appear to be "current" flowing in the vicinity of the sunspot. Whether it's due simply to a breakdown of the anode tufting and escape of ions, or whether it's due to discharges to the sun from a plasma torus perhaps remains to be debated further as newer observations come in? Scholars are allowed to have scholarly disagreements, of course. ;o] Though, I think both subscribe to the "electric star" model of Juergens as modified by Thornhill based upon a "glow discharge" model including double layers rather than the "relativistic rain of electrons" Juergens may have one advocated and debunkers now seize upon (despite being outdated) as a definitive "disproof" of the ES model.

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