X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster

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X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster

Unread postby seasmith » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:17 am

Mysterious X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark Matter

http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/x-ray ... 05556.html

Is there a consensus Thunderbolts view of what MS science calls "Dark Matter" ?

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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby Zyxzevn » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:38 am

"3.5 kilo electron volts" = result of electric discharges
Case solved.
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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:40 am

seasmith wrote:
Mysterious X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark Matter

http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/x-ray ... 05556.html

Is there a consensus Thunderbolts view of what MS science calls "Dark Matter" ?

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Oh brother. Evidently they're going bananas again over ordinary potassium, carbon and chlorine lines.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... 5_keV_line

Every six month to a year we hear this nonsense again. It's like they simply forget or just ignore the basic criticism of the "3.5KeV=dark matter" claim and then they go bananas again over nothing. :)

Just last month axion dark matter claims were blown out of the water in sensitive laboratory experiments, yet they dredge up their bogus 3.5 kev axion claim a month later. Oy Vey.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/1 ... er_axions/
https://phys.org/news/2017-11-dark-narrowed.html

"We've analysed the measurements we took in France and Switzerland and they provide evidence that axions – at least the kind that would have been observable in the experiment – do not exist. These results are a thousand times more sensitive than previous ones and they are based on laboratory measurements rather than astronomical observations. This does not fundamentally rule out the existence of axions, but the scope of characteristics that these particles could have is now distinctly limited.

"The results essentially send physicists back to the drawing board in our hunt for dark matter."


These lab tests were 1000 times more sensitive than their astronomical "tests' too. They didn't go back to the drawing board, they went right back to their old (falsified) tricks! :(

Since this specific claim seems to be related to absorption rather than emission, I'd put my money on Carbon as the culprit. It's the substance they use to create "black bodies", and it's an *excellent* absorption material as well.

Big yawn.....
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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby Solar » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:47 am

This is the funniest DM comedy series ever. Every since reading the Resonances Particle Physics Blog article on this topic their caption and graphic always comes to mind:

The current experimental situation is summarized in this plot:
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I've never recovered from this.
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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby seasmith » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:44 pm

Zyxzevn wrote:"3.5 kilo electron volts" = result of electric discharges
Case solved.


Discharges from ?

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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby Zyxzevn » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:53 pm

seasmith wrote:
Zyxzevn wrote:"3.5 kilo electron volts" = result of electric discharges
Case solved.

Discharges from ?


I thought of Electrical discharges of one stellar object to another,
or between 2 electrical layers of plasma.
But after reading Micheal's reply, I think that Potassium and Chlorine are the cause here.

Great Comic, Solar!

Regarding Dark Matter, the recent UFO reports by the Pentagon have far more evidence behind
them than any dark matter claims I have seen this far.
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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby Webbman » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:54 am

everything they do is measured in volts but somehow the universe isn't electric.

what a joke.
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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby seasmith » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:57 am

Michael Mozina wrote:
seasmith wrote:
Mysterious X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark Matter

http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/x-ray ... 05556.html

Is there a consensus Thunderbolts view of what MS science calls "Dark Matter" ?

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Oh brother. Evidently they're going bananas again over ordinary potassium, carbon and chlorine lines.
....

These lab tests were 1000 times more sensitive than their astronomical "tests' too. They didn't go back to the drawing board, they went right back to their old (falsified) tricks! :(

Since this specific claim seems to be related to absorption rather than emission, I'd put my money on Carbon as the culprit. It's the substance they use to create "black bodies", and it's an *excellent* absorption material as well.

Big yawn.....


So yet one more example of wildly misinterpreted Spectography results, surprise, surprise,
in the field of astronomy.
[Higgsy probably has a correct interpretation]
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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby kodybatill » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:35 pm

Muonic Hydrogen constantly re-orients to face the direction of the greatest number of electron neutrinos - and if so - the mechanism which is capable of tracking the greatest number of electron neutrinos across space is most likely of electron neutrino type size, like some X-rays.
Add to this that the Muonic Hydrogen's nucleus changes size based on the heavy metals around it - and so possibly many seemingly anomalous sizes of X-rays can be recorded because of the Muonic Hydrogen neutrino action.

Michael Mozina's idea of potassium, carbon and chlorine is just about as good as anyone will come up with if not including detailed workings of Muonic Hydrogen. This is because the carbon causes *1* thing at a time to move slow enough to break apart - and so causing local Muonic Hydrogen to move toward it's nucleus and horizontal diameter - where the X-ray and neutrino interaction takes place - while chlorine causes the shell directly around the Muonic Hydrogen to take even more electron neutrinos than usual - causing a potentially shorter X-ray because of the greatest number of electron neutrinos now being closer to the Muonic Hydrogen nucleus - and then the potassium allows a shorter-than-usual number of positrons than the Muonic Hydrogen nucleus gives out - to pass by the critical point in Muonic Hydrogen where positrons cancel each other out - and so now creating similarly small waves from the longitudinal portion of Muonic Hydrogen.
But in reality - simple Muonic Hydrogen - when understood in enough detail - is the key to understanding all of this.
But why potassium, chlorine and carbon - is because those elements particularly lend to bringing out the X-ray characteristics of distant or even close Muonic Hydrogen.

When ever Muonic Hydrogen re-orients in the direction of the greatest number of electron neutrinos - the Muonic Hydrogen extends that field across the entire Universe until the end of the very last neutrino in that possibly straight line of direction. Distance and certain speed applies for the energy being used - but there are two types of charges from Muonic Hydrogen which travel instantly. This would be conductive tetrahedral charges which change the size of Muonic Hydrogen - and inductive pentagonal charges which help to constantly distribute electron neutrinos and X-rays at their own speed from Muonic Hydrogen, but these pentagonal charges moving even beyond that.
These tetrahedral and pentagonal Muonic Hydrogen charges mainly describe the inherent AND individual already existing potential of physical elements at a distance to have what-ever set charges are inherent for that element - and the directions that the distant Muonic Hydrogen fields are coming from - which is probably all directions at once - are the directions from where other atoms enter into the window of time for interaction - to then bond in what-ever way is natural for those elements.
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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:56 am

I think the whole point of these kinds of "fluff" and "misdirection" articles is to try to infuse life back into a dying exotic matter claim.

In the lab, exotic matter claims have been the single most 'tested" and 'debunked" hypothesis in the history of physics. Rather than accept the outcome of any of their own lab"tests" however, astronomers keeps cranking out astronomically oriented papers to try to offset their dismal track record in the lab with the public.

If they keep talking about the "evidence" they think they found, the public might be fooled into believing the concept has merit for awhile longer. It doesn't have any real merit, and they know it, which is why they have to keep rehashing he same tired nonsense.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/1 ... er_axions/
https://phys.org/news/2017-11-dark-narrowed.html

This is the first experiment to use laboratory equipment – rather than astronomical observations – to investigate this type of axion. Previously, physicists had been gradually narrowing the range of possible masses of the axion through telescope-based experiments. The research published today wipes out a whole swathe of potential masses. As a result, particle theorists attempting to explain the origins of the Universe and the nature of dark matter will have to go back to the drawing board as they revise, constrain and tune their models. An important benchmark has been set for future experimental searches; and other experiments, working in related topics, will be able to analyse their data in this new way to extend the sensitivity further.


They didn't go back to the drawing board based on what they discovered/learned in the lab, they simply swept the lab results under the rug and they repeated the same old debunked nonsense based on far less meaningful astronomical observations.
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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:01 am

FYI, I suspect that we're likely to see another article soon that claims that "excess" matter/antimatter emission patterns from space are somehow miraculously associated with WIMP annihilation. They will of course ignore the fact that electrical discharges in plasma here on Earth are *known and demonstrated* to release free positrons, and generate those exact same gamma ray emission patterns. It happens naturally in electrical storms on a daily basis here on Earth.

The denial mechanisms of astronomers begin with their staunch denial of the role of electric fields and electrical discharges in space, starting with their role in solar physics, and extending to the whole universe.

The really annoying part is that astronomers *consistently* reject the *known and demonstrated* mechanism (in this case electrical discharges), in favor of metaphysical mumbo-jumbo. That's true throughout their entire LCDM model, including redshift and the composition of any 'missing mass'.

Photons are known to redshift by transferring some of their momentum to dusty plasma in the lab. They lose momentum due to *moving objects* too. Instead of embracing a known cause of photon redshift, LCDM proponents invoke a metaphysical process of 'space expansion.

We just found more mass in two different "halos' of gas and plasma in the last five years than all the mass we knew about in our own galaxy prior to 2012. We're still finding satellite galaxies around our own galaxy all the time too. We've found 1/2 dozen serious baryonic mass estimation problems in that now infamous 2006 Bullet Cluster study. Instead of embracing plasma, dust, extra stars and such as the 'missing mass', they invoke a metaphysical placeholder term for human ignorance to describe that missing mass.

Instead of embracing *any* effect of moving objects or photon momentum transfer in plasma in space as we observe in labs on Earth, the LCDM model invoked yet another ad-hoc metaphysical entity known as "dark energy", and another placeholder term for human ignorance.

The mainstream is *willfully* ignorant at this point. By consistently ignoring the empirical causes of these distant observations, they are able to consistently invoke another placeholder term for human ignorance.

I think its clear that the funding channels are the driving force of astronomy today, not natural human curiosity and a sincere desire for actual empirical knowledge.

They have so much money and so many jobs invested in exotic matter snipe hunts, they simply can't stop. It's become like a bad drug habit for them. They've spent their whole careers ignoring the empirical cause of photon momentum loss in plasma, so they cannot even imagine any other possible explanation for redshfit, even though Edwin Hubble himself entertained wrote about tired light models from the moment he saw these patterns.

Gamma ray emissions are known to be empirically associated with electrical discharges in plasma, and several different ion emissions as well as synchrotron radiation are known emitters of 3.5Kev x-ray photons. All of them are rejected in favor of axion emission claims in spite of a recent lab tests that rule out axions and was 1000 times more sensitive to boot.
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Re: X-Ray Signal from Perseus Galaxy Cluster Points to Dark

Unread postby kodybatill » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:21 pm

Michael Mozina wrote:FYI, I suspect that we're likely to see another article soon that claims that "excess" matter/antimatter emission patterns from space are somehow miraculously associated with WIMP annihilation. They will of course ignore the fact that electrical discharges in plasma here on Earth are *known and demonstrated* to release free positrons, and generate those exact same gamma ray emission patterns. It happens naturally in electrical storms on a daily basis here on Earth.

The denial mechanisms of astronomers begin with their staunch denial of the role of electric fields and electrical discharges in space, starting with their role in solar physics, and extending to the whole universe.

The really annoying part is that astronomers *consistently* reject the *known and demonstrated* mechanism (in this case electrical discharges), in favor of metaphysical mumbo-jumbo. That's true throughout their entire LCDM model, including redshift and the composition of any 'missing mass'.

Photons are known to redshift by transferring some of their momentum to dusty plasma in the lab. They lose momentum due to *moving objects* too. Instead of embracing a known cause of photon redshift, LCDM proponents invoke a metaphysical process of 'space expansion.

We just found more mass in two different "halos' of gas and plasma in the last five years than all the mass we knew about in our own galaxy prior to 2012. We're still finding satellite galaxies around our own galaxy all the time too. We've found 1/2 dozen serious baryonic mass estimation problems in that now infamous 2006 Bullet Cluster study. Instead of embracing plasma, dust, extra stars and such as the 'missing mass', they invoke a metaphysical placeholder term for human ignorance to describe that missing mass.

Instead of embracing *any* effect of moving objects or photon momentum transfer in plasma in space as we observe in labs on Earth, the LCDM model invoked yet another ad-hoc metaphysical entity known as "dark energy", and another placeholder term for human ignorance.

The mainstream is *willfully* ignorant at this point. By consistently ignoring the empirical causes of these distant observations, they are able to consistently invoke another placeholder term for human ignorance.

I think its clear that the funding channels are the driving force of astronomy today, not natural human curiosity and a sincere desire for actual empirical knowledge.

They have so much money and so many jobs invested in exotic matter snipe hunts, they simply can't stop. It's become like a bad drug habit for them. They've spent their whole careers ignoring the empirical cause of photon momentum loss in plasma, so they cannot even imagine any other possible explanation for redshfit, even though Edwin Hubble himself entertained wrote about tired light models from the moment he saw these patterns.

Gamma ray emissions are known to be empirically associated with electrical discharges in plasma, and several different ion emissions as well as synchrotron radiation are known emitters of 3.5Kev x-ray photons. All of them are rejected in favor of axion emission claims in spite of a recent lab tests that rule out axions and was 1000 times more sensitive to boot.



Hay Michael Mozina!!! I think that everything you are saying is true! And I am happy there are people who understand that positrons are not dark matter. They may even be anti-particles, but not because they are anti-this-universe, but because positrons have/are colors around opposites, and create visible and invisible complexes with photons.

But I was wondering if you would look over a new paper of mine! It contains just very little old work that I have posted on this site before - but also A LOT of new information. it is 62 pages of work - but is very accurate I believe!!! If you are good at piecing information together after reading words about a broad spectrum of functions - then you might like it!!!

Here is the link!!! Let me know what you think!!!:

https://www.scribd.com/document/367339790/MuonicACDC
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