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Black hole with 800 million solar masses found, highly red s

Unread postby willendure » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:50 pm

Black hole with 800 million solar masses found, highly red shifted.

This really challenges theories of how super massive black holes form. How could this form so 'early' in the life of the universe:

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature2 ... .bbc.co.uk
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LCDM is an epic failure

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:29 pm

Here's the short version:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 131946.htm

A team of astronomers, including two from MIT, has detected the most distant supermassive black hole ever observed. The black hole sits in the center of an ultrabright quasar, the light of which was emitted just 690 million years after the Big Bang.


So how did this black hole get so big so fast?

The black hole is measured to be about 800 million times as massive as our sun -- a Goliath by modern-day standards and a relative anomaly in the early universe.

"This is the only object we have observed from this era," says Robert Simcoe, the Francis L. Friedman Professor of Physics in MIT's Kavli Institute for Astrophysics and Space Research. "It has an extremely high mass, and yet the universe is so young that this thing shouldn't exist. The universe was just not old enough to make a black hole that big. It's very puzzling."


Puzzling indeed. It's amazing how many observations simply defy LCDM theory. I can't think of any physics theory that has failed as many big budget "tests" in the lab, nor one that has failed so many observational "tests". What's the point of making "predictions' and supposedly "testing" a model if no such "test" can lead to falsification? LCDM is just a *pitiful* theory. Not only is most of it composed of placeholder terms for human ignorance, the rest is mostly "pseudoscience", and it fails pretty much every possible "test" that I can think of. Were it not for the CMB, LCDM proponents would have nothing positive to discuss about LCDM at all. What an epic fail of a cosmology theory.

LCDM proponents make such a big deal about mathematical modelling, but when their own theory fails those mathematical models and predictions, they simply bury their collective heads in the sand. What absolute hypocrisy.
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Re: Black hole with 800 million solar masses found, highly r

Unread postby verisimilitude » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:30 pm

From the Abstract:
"The existence of this supermassive black hole when the Universe was only 690 million years old... reinforces early models of black hole growth that allow ... hyper-Eddington accretion"

From the MainStream Article:
"... and yet the universe is so young that this thing shouldn't exist. The universe was just not old enough to make a black hole that big. It's very puzzling."

Which is it, Rob Simcoe? You can't have it both ways...

From the Title:
"...in a significantly neutral Universe."

From the Abstact:
"However, even in our most conservative analysis we find ... that we are probing well within the reionization epoch."

Which is it, Rob Simcoe. You can't have it both ways...

SMH
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Re: Black hole with 800 million solar masses found, highly r

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:36 am

verisimilitude wrote:Which is it, Rob Simcoe. You can't have it both ways...

SMH


True. The fact we see H-alpha wavelengths from distant galaxies and objects would suggest that the mainstream's notion of a reionization phase is probably misguided.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/mathematical-phys ... n/maps1543
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