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Re: Rosetta's Final Image

Unread postby nick c » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:16 am

comingfrom wrote:Meteorite showers like the Leonids aren't from comets, are they?
Or maybe they are from one that disintegrated.
Yes, meteor showers are associated with comets. It is basically the Earth moving across the orbital path of a comet and encountering the dust and particles that were left behind by the comet.
http://www.astro.umd.edu/~farnham/tt/shower.html
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Re: Rosetta's Final Image

Unread postby Zyxzevn » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:37 pm

Latest ThunderboltsProject video is about comets:
Dirty Snowballs Falsified – NASA Fails to Notice | Space News

There is so much difference between the unproven official theory:
From an unproven Ortcould
appears a unproven snowball
that unproven ejects water
forming an unproven water tail.
Not only are these parts unproven, in observations we can see that ALL
these assumptions are completely wrong.
The comets are rock
There is no real ejection of material, there is only erosion, mostly electrical erosion.
The tail is more an electrical charged particles instead of gas/ice particles.
The comet does not evaporate near the sun, and it must contain solid materials.
The ice-ball theory is more than falsified. It is wasted.

This is all more in line with an electrical comet theory.
The tail/tails are a product of electrical erosion and electrochemical processes.
Why this is exactly is not clear yet, but it may indeed be possible that
the electrical properties are depend on the path through the solar wind.

Yet I do not expect any change in the sciences.
An uncle of mine writes scientific articles for newspapers and journals about space.
As I spoke with him. he has no idea of any of this. While he is interested in alternative
ideas, he only repeats what he has learned from others.
He does not doubt much the theories, because no-one publishes papers
on the falsifications of these theories. He thinks that the "sceptics"
who defend the old theories, have actually looked into the facts.
And no-one writes about falsifications, because you have to go against
so many other "scientists". Facts don't matter.

It is clear that the corrective process in science is broken.
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Re: Rosetta's Final Image

Unread postby moses » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:25 pm

So comets and asteroids were formed on planets and then blasted into space almost certainly by electrical processes. The asteroids are mainly of two types which strongly suggests two different planets of origin. In time this may be proven and my theory that the two planets are Earth and Mars will be verified.

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Re: Rosetta's Final Image

Unread postby nick c » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:10 pm

Here is a recent relevant Space News:
Dirty Snowballs Falsified – NASA Fails to Notice
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Re: Rosetta's Final Image

Unread postby Sceptical lefty » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:30 am

@ Zyxzevn
"Facts don't matter."
In fact, facts do matter.
The facts that matter are that credibility, reputations and jobs are at stake, here.
Everything else follows naturally. ;)
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Re: Rosetta's Final Image

Unread postby Solar » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:57 am

Can the same dynamic go from this:

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To these Martian Geysers?

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Interesting comparison: On Mars during the spring thaw several “geysers” spewing blacked soot-like soil become “active vents”. Click the HIRise photo to see a multitude of them. This is kind of ice covered Martian dirt is, or was(?), what comets were portrayed to be like. However, obviously the blacked dirt covered image of 67p is totally different.

Here is a decent photo (Source). On the left the former “active vent” of a Martian geyser seems dormant. A hole has been left in the ice along with what appears to be the “spider” effect perhaps from pressure lifting the ice layer.

I get the impression that this kind of frost covered soil is what the previous generation of highly overexposed photos of comets led scientist and theorist to further believe that comet surfaces were supposed to look like a "dirty snowball". Instead, the comet surface is dry and black as pitch. Instead of dirt spewing through ice such as with Martian “geysers” during spring thaw, with comets, ice is supposedly spewing through dirt?

With the recently discovered comet C/2017 K2 sublimating "supervolitles" are being offered instead of regular good old sublimating surface ice.

“K2 is so far from the Sun and so cold, we know for sure that the activity — all the fuzzy stuff making it look like a comet — is not produced, as in other comets, by the evaporation of water ice,” Dr. Jewitt explained.

Instead, we think the activity is due to the sublimation of super-volatiles as K2 makes its maiden entry into the Solar System’s planetary zone. That’s why it’s special. This comet is so far away and so incredibly cold that water ice there is frozen like a rock.


I guess the inversion is what I'm finding odd.
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Re: Rosetta's Final Image

Unread postby seasmith » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:39 pm

9-21-2018
Japan space rovers lowered to asteroid to collect data


The Japanese unmanned spacecraft Hayabusa2 released two small Minerva-II-1 rovers on the asteroid Ryugu on Friday, Sept. 21, 2018, in a research effort that may provide clues to the origin of the solar system. JAXA said confirmation of the rovers' touchdown has to wait until it receives data from them on Saturday. (JAXA via AP)


]http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/09/21/japan-space-rovers-lowered-to-asteroid-to-collect-data.html
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Re: Rosetta's Final Image

Unread postby seasmith » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:08 pm

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The Hayabusa 2 mission team is continuing to acquire data for analysis, and further pictures are likely to be distributed first via the mission’s Twitter account.

A larger MASCOT rover, contributed by the German and French space agencies, is due to be dropped toward the surface next month. Next year, Hayabusa 2 will dispatch yet another mini-rover with its MINERVA-II-2 deployable carrier. The main spacecraft will also descend to the asteroid’s surface to collect samples for return to Earth in late 2020.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/japanese-min ... 24476.html
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Re: Rosetta's Final Image

Unread postby Aardwolf » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:40 am

seasmith wrote:Image

The Hayabusa 2 mission team is continuing to acquire data for analysis, and further pictures are likely to be distributed first via the mission’s Twitter account.

A larger MASCOT rover, contributed by the German and French space agencies, is due to be dropped toward the surface next month. Next year, Hayabusa 2 will dispatch yet another mini-rover with its MINERVA-II-2 deployable carrier. The main spacecraft will also descend to the asteroid’s surface to collect samples for return to Earth in late 2020.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/japanese-min ... 24476.html
Oh look. Yet another asteroid with a "density" slightly higher than water and around the range of plastic. Yet the pictures clearly show solid rock.

When will they finally accept that gravity is not a direct result of mass. They must at least be uncomfortable about why they keep landing on rocks.

Even the expected composition doesn't make any sense. It's supposed to be carbonaceous but those rocks are at least twice as dense as this object. Is it supposed to be honeycombed inside or hollow? Maybe the inside is made of marshmallow...

They're also going to fire a projectile at it and land in the crater. I don't think they are going to succeed on that front unless it luckily hits a particularly soft or loose spot. Expect excuses.
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Re: Rosetta's Final Image

Unread postby GaryN » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:24 pm

Some links to vids and pdf files on the Hayabusa 2 mission.

Hayabusa2 Remote Sensing Instruments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFh_pe3O_xM

JAPAN LANDS 2 MINI ROVERS ON ASTEROID RYUGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y99Eov3LYts

HAYABUSA2 Optical Navigation Camera (ONC)
http://www.darts.isas.jaxa.jp/pub/hayab ... le/browse/

INFLIGHT SPECTROSCOPIC CALIBRATION OF HAYABUSA2 OPTICAL NAVIGATION CAMERAS (ONC)
USING EARTH, MOON, MARS, AND STARS.
https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2017/pdf/1988.pdf
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