Unexplained High Speed Electrons Discovered By THEMIS

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Unexplained High Speed Electrons Discovered By THEMIS

Unread postby michael.suede » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:52 am

http://www.sciencealert.com/particles-a ... explain-it

"If the electrons were accelerated in the bow shock, they would have a preferred movement direction and location - in line with the magnetic field and moving away from the bow shock in a small, specific region."

Instead, the team found that the electrons were moving in all directions - not just along magnetic field lines - and the bow shock could only account for roughly one-tenth of the electrons' energies.


Sounds like the Brownian motion predicted by Don's Scott's electric sun model.
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Re: Unexplained High Speed Electrons Discovered By THEMIS

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:21 am

michael.suede wrote:http://www.sciencealert.com/particles-are-being-accelerated-to-near-light-speed-outside-earth-s-magnetic-field-and-nasa-can-t-explain-it

"If the electrons were accelerated in the bow shock, they would have a preferred movement direction and location - in line with the magnetic field and moving away from the bow shock in a small, specific region."

Instead, the team found that the electrons were moving in all directions - not just along magnetic field lines - and the bow shock could only account for roughly one-tenth of the electrons' energies.


Sounds like the Brownian motion predicted by Don's Scott's electric sun model.


The mainstream will never figure out plasma motions in space until and unless they embrace circuit theory as it is applied to plasma. They simply cannot explain everything that occurs in current carrying plasma in terms of "bow shocks" and magnetic lines.
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Re: Unexplained High Speed Electrons Discovered By THEMIS

Unread postby nick c » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:05 am

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/20 ... -electrons
Simultaneous observations from the additional Heliophysics spacecraft, Wind and STEREO, showed no solar radio bursts or interplanetary shocks, so the high-energy electrons did not originate from solar activity.
“This is a puzzling case because we’re seeing energetic electrons where we don’t think they should be, and no model fits them,” said David Sibeck, co-author and THEMIS project scientist at NASA Goddard. “There is a gap in our knowledge, something basic is missing.”
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Re: Unexplained High Speed Electrons Discovered By THEMIS

Unread postby willendure » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:33 am

michael.suede wrote:http://www.sciencealert.com/particles-are-being-accelerated-to-near-light-speed-outside-earth-s-magnetic-field-and-nasa-can-t-explain-it

"If the electrons were accelerated in the bow shock, they would have a preferred movement direction and location - in line with the magnetic field and moving away from the bow shock in a small, specific region."

Instead, the team found that the electrons were moving in all directions - not just along magnetic field lines - and the bow shock could only account for roughly one-tenth of the electrons' energies.


Sounds like the Brownian motion predicted by Don's Scott's electric sun model.


I think in Doc Scotts theory, the brownian motion predicition is that it is somewhat decreased at the start of the elctrons acceleration out into space. The elctrons are at a higher temperature nearer to the surface of the sun, when they first hit the huge voltage gradiant that accelerates them to millions of degrees in the corona they actually cool down. This is because the huge acceleration somewhat restricts their degrees of freedom, reducing brownian motion.

Are there other references to brownian mothion in Doc Scotts model? Love his youtube presentation on the electrical sun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kin9zqPMPaI
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Re: Unexplained High Speed Electrons Discovered By THEMIS

Unread postby Michael Mozina » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:20 am

nick c wrote:https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasa-finds-unusual-origins-of-high-energy-electrons


Some of those particles in the foreshock region are highly energetic, fast moving electrons and ions. Historically, scientists have thought one way these particles get to such high energies is by bouncing back and forth across the bow shock, gaining a little extra energy from each collision. However, the new observations suggest the particles can also gain energy through electromagnetic activity in the foreshock region itself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m58-CfVrsN4

Just imagine for a moment trying to "understand" Birkeland's working cathode solar model (or any EU solar model) *without* understanding, comprehending, and acknowledging the importance and the necessity of the *electric field* that drives the process? That's basically why the mainstream is always "surprised" by every new observation of high energy particles in space.

It's relatively easy to understand why a charged particle accelerates toward (or away from) an electrode, particularly in the vicinity of the electrode. It's not so easy to understand why that acceleration process occurs if one absolutely, positively *refuses* to acknowledge the role of the electric fields that are ultimately responsible for the acceleration process.

To this very day the mainstream almost exclusively still uses "pseudoscience" to explain high energy plasma events in the solar atmosphere and the Earth's magnetosphere. Their need for pseudoscience is directly related to their refusal to acknowledge the *circuits*, and the electric field that drive the particle acceleration process. Alfven's double layer paper made the whole "magnetic reconnection" process irrelevant and obsolete in all current carrying environments, nevertheless the mainstream typically discusses 'reconnection' in relationship to "current sheets". Oy Vey. The mainstream level of ignorance is almost unfathomable, yet every new observation continues to be a big "surprise" to them. Birkeland and his small team of scientists literally understood more about the physics of the the solar corona, the Earth's aurora, and spaceweather forecasting in general in 1908 than the mainstream comprehends over 100 years later. It's just sad.
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