Measurement of stellar distances and redshift

[Lloyd]

* I did a google search on Light and Medium at holoscience.com and here are the results.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site%3Ah ... qtEvp1-d7s

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H O L O S C I E N C E - News
This brings us to the speed of light, “c.” We know from experiment that “c” varies depending on the medium.
http://www.holoscience.com/news/slow_light.html
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We then have an electrically responsive medium for the transmission of light in which the characteristic velocity of an electrical disturbance in that ...
http://www.holoscience.com/news/puzzle.html
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No effect can travel faster than the speed of light ... of light is merely the characteristic velocity of an electrical disturbance in the medium of space? ...
http://www.holoscience.com/news/antigravity.html - 34k - Cached - Similar pages -
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Electric Gravity in an Electric Universe
Aug 22, 2008 ... If gravity operated at the speed of light all planets would ...
light is an oscillating transverse signal moving slowly through a medium. ...
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=89xdcmfs
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A Real 'Theory of Everything'
Jan 1, 2006 ... Light will be slowed in the denser medium – causing normal refraction or bending of light. What about time? With all bodies in the Milky Way ...
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=gdaqg8df
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NASA's Dim View of Stars
Dec 22, 2008 ... The light of a red star is due to the distended anode glow of an electrically .... which is dissipated at the surface through the medium of ...
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=b8zgwr0h
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Comets Impact Cosmology
Jul 20, 2004 ... "Encke's Comet and the Supposed Resisting Medium," by Professor W. ...
physicists that both the self-light of comets and the phenomena of ...
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=uf4ty065

[n8allan]

Just as an afterthought, given the recent "advances (and i use the term loosely) in anti-gravity research, has anyone thought that light may consist of 2 counter-rotating oscillations in resonance, be it particle or wave to simulate the "massless" appearance?

This reminds me of the idea of Luxons: http://www.starlight-publishing.com/Mat ... atter.html

There are probably at least 5 or 6 independant UFT theories I've seen which all come to a similar conclusion. Here is another resource on the matter:
http://www.tardyon.de/other.htm

Best,

-Nate

[webolife]

Has anyone copmpiled a list of QSO's potentially associated with the polar axes of the Milky Way?
These should be not difficult to find, should they exist, and would greatly help to confirm the Arp hypothesis of ejection of QSO's from active galaxy cores. We should see quantized redshifts and some degree of alignment or at least association with the center of the Milky Way.

[Lloyd]

* This early TPOD http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/ ... lkyway.htm discusses the Milky Way's progeny to the south, but apparently not to the north. So maybe the north side still needs to be checked out. Also, this Thornhill article http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=zc22ejwj says the Bullet Cluster is part of our local group.

Sep 28, 2005
Milky Way Family

This galaxy, NGC 300, is an offspring of the Milky Way. It is the largest galaxy in the Sculptor Group of galaxies, all of which are descendants of the Milky Way. This group is the next-nearest cluster of galaxies to the Local Group, of which the Milky Way is a member. You can see it with a small telescope in the constellation Sculptor. On galactic star maps, you can see that the cluster is aligned with the south pole of our Milky Way galaxy.

The Sculptor Group is also the center of a large cluster of quasars. These quasars are the offspring of several galaxies in the Group and therefore grandchildren of the Milky Way. Within this cluster of quasars, two denser accumulations stand out. The largest is a long stream (almost 20 times the length of the full moon) that points directly at the center of NGC 300 along its spin axis. The second group of quasars is clustered around the second-largest galaxy of the Sculptor Group, NGC 55.

* Here's info on our Local Group, the Sculptor Group and the larger Local Virgo Supercluster.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sculptor_group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgo_Supercluster

[webolife]

Thanks, I am not as good at navigating through archived titles as you.
That is the article I was looking for.

[balsys]

After the failure of my original conjecture and reading these post, and some further musing I have come to the conclusion that the only really reliable method of measuring stellar distances is by using the parallax of the earths orbit to measure stellar distances. Unfortunately due to the small angles involved only the distance to a handful of stars can be measured this way.

I got to musing on what happens on earth as we move and the effect this has on close vs distance objects and I came up with the following idea.

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Here d is the diameter of earths orbit around the sun and l is the distance to a star whose parallax can be measured. (Grossly exagerated of course.) Now as we move in a car and keep our gaze fixed on a close object we note that objects behind appear to move. The further the object is from the object we focus on the greater the apparent motion. In the figure this is represented by distances d1, d2 and d3.

Now using similar triangles l/d = l1/d1 = l2/d2 = l3/d3 and so on. Now d and l can be determined (the angle subtended by the star is used to do this). Clearly distances l1, l2, l3 ... are what we want to know. If we can directly measure d1, d2, d3 etc then we can determine these distances. Even if we can only determine the ratios of d1:d2:d3 we can determine l1:l2:l3 etc.

Clearly we would need to find a sequence of objects that are very close to the candidate star for this to work. Ideally we would like galaxies, quasars etc for this. We could then compare the relative distances this method gives with standard distances to these objects. If these do not agree (he he) we have an method to use to show that standard methods (redshift) does not give the right values.

Comments?

[StevenO]

The method is described in this book:

The Stars

From earth is seems to be very inaccurate and only applicable for the 10 nearest stars but the situation has improved to 100.000 precisely mapped stars with the Hipparcos satellite.

http://www.rssd.esa.int/index.php?project=HIPPARCOS