Zyxzevn wrote:The sun could easily remove our moon from our planet, but it does not do that.
Ok, you lost me there. Please explain why you think the Moon should be pulled away from Earth.
Zyxzevn wrote:The sun could easily remove our moon from our planet, but it does not do that.
querious wrote:Zyxzevn wrote:The sun could easily remove our moon from our planet, but it does not do that.
Ok, you lost me there. Please explain why you think the Moon should be pulled away from Earth.
Zyxzevn wrote:querious wrote:Zyxzevn wrote:The sun could easily remove our moon from our planet, but it does not do that.
Ok, you lost me there. Please explain why you think the Moon should be pulled away from Earth.
I was biased here, due to seeing too many instable simulations.
The orbits are chaotic, but stable for millions of years.
Earth itself is older than that (>4 billion years), so it will be interesting to find out if its
orbit might have changed.
kaublezw wrote:But I'm confused at around 40:00. He seems to suggest that gravity pulls the nucleus of atoms towards the center of mass, thus causing a small electric dipole within the atom, thus causing gravity? It seems to be a circular reference. What am I missing? Is it that the London force gets things started?
kaublezw wrote:Later on he suggests that if we are falling, during our fall, we have no mass? I was confused by that as well.
willendure wrote:This theory of gravity is utter nonsense.
willendure wrote:kaublezw wrote:Later on he suggests that if we are falling, during our fall, we have no mass? I was confused by that as well.
I think he said that during free fall the nuclei would return to the centre of the atoms, so the dipole is no longer present. But if the dipole is responsible for the force that we experience as gravity, then there would be no acceleration during a fall would there?
This theory of gravity is utter nonsense.
querious wrote:Willendure,
You forgot that kaublezw also said... "I'm not interested in reasons why you think the theory is wrong."
So please stick to thinking up ways to make this theory workable! Maybe the Aether just wants to get out of the way of falling objects, creating a vacuum that sucks things down? Why not?
willendure wrote:querious wrote:Willendure,
You forgot that kaublezw also said... "I'm not interested in reasons why you think the theory is wrong."
So please stick to thinking up ways to make this theory workable! Maybe the Aether just wants to get out of the way of falling objects, creating a vacuum that sucks things down? Why not?
But that would be an entirely different theory..?
Sorry, I just feel Thornhill's presentation is as full of holes (circular reasoning, arguments that defy logic) as the standard model of the sun. Indeed, he has some great presentations on the sun and it was one of his videos on the sun that got me interested in EU. But this presentation on gravity is so bad as to be almost an embarrassment. I don't think it helps at all in getting EU ideas accepted, its just material that critics can point at and label us all as crackpots.
willendure wrote:Why does a metal sheet not shield gravity, if this is all true? In the same way that a metal sheet will shield an electrical field? Thornhill claims this is not the case, because the atoms in the metal sheet will also "daisy-chain" the effect. Ok, but to daisy chain the dipole effect, the atoms need to be close together. So if the metal sheet is lying on the ground, perhaps that could happen. What if the metal sheet was suspended in the air, held perhaps by chains from above? That would air-gap the sheet from the surface and break the daisy chain. In fact, just putting the metal sheet on a table surface ought to be enough.
D_Archer wrote:Just float some aluminium on a magnet, anti-gravity right there.
D_Archer wrote:willendure wrote:Why does a metal sheet not shield gravity, if this is all true? In the same way that a metal sheet will shield an electrical field? Thornhill claims this is not the case, because the atoms in the metal sheet will also "daisy-chain" the effect. Ok, but to daisy chain the dipole effect, the atoms need to be close together. So if the metal sheet is lying on the ground, perhaps that could happen. What if the metal sheet was suspended in the air, held perhaps by chains from above? That would air-gap the sheet from the surface and break the daisy chain. In fact, just putting the metal sheet on a table surface ought to be enough.
Just float some aluminium on a magnet, anti-gravity right there.
Regards,
Daniel
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