Plasma and electricity in space. Failure of gravity-only cosmology. Exposing the myths of dark matter, dark energy, black holes, neutron stars, and other mathematical constructs. The electric model of stars. Predictions and confirmations of the electric comet.
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kiwi
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by kiwi » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:15 pm
jacmac wrote:Kiwi,
The whole solar system would be connected to the Galactic currents environment at its outer limits.
If "the inner sun" isn't to your liking, perhaps you can tell us what is under the photosphere !
I know what 39 orders of magnitude means, but gravity exists and I happen to think that the "sun" is lit up like it is in no small part because it is the biggest body around.
Sparky,
I read a lot on this forum, but not everything ???
Under the Photosphere? ......a giant pair of Photo-knickers ?
Binary star-systems show its incorrect to assign "size" as an indicator alone of an objects abillity to hold charge (and shine) its the current density at the surface that determines that....
As long as the Universal E force is subjected to division upon division the circus will continue ..... Nature provides a seemless interaction through all intensities ... silly humans are the one's who have muddied the waters as a consequence of calling the race "decided" before all the data was in ...... imagine if we started today,and arrived on this Planet with all the modern tech at our disposal?,... the abillity to look into the Macro and Micro without waiting 200 years for instrument development to slowly reveal more of the dynamic bit by bit ..... having to squirm , shuffle, and re-arrange the whole shebang is the embarrissing consequence of the ( anything but "Standard") Standard Model
CharlesChandler wrote:kiwi wrote:It seems to me that Charles' model is electrical, caused by gravity.
Then that's enough to throw the whole kit and kaboodle into the bin .... you got the horse on the Jockey there mate
The E force dominates by at least 39 orders of Magnitude ....
I responded to this on the
Debate: Aristarchus vs. Chandler thread.
Yeah saw that .... will have a read
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by Sparky » Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:51 am
kiwi:
.... you got the horse on the Jockey there mate

The horse has been running loose long enough!
Put the jockey back on the horse and get it under control!

They work together, each doing what they do best.
Electrically assisted gravity might work....

"It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong."
"Doubt is not an agreeable condition, but certainty is an absurd one."
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire
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kiwi
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by kiwi » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:43 pm
Sparky wrote:kiwi:
.... you got the horse on the Jockey there mate

The horse has been running loose long enough!
Put the jockey back on the horse and get it under control!

They work together, each doing what they do best.
Electrically assisted gravity might work....

Yes there a article pertaining to that by Thornhill
When it was found that atoms are composed of charged particles, there were attempts to explain mass in terms of electromagnetism. Henri Poincaré wrote in 1914, “What we call mass would seem to be nothing but an appearance, and all inertia to be of electromagnetic origin.” It makes good sense that the equivalence of gravitational and inertial mass should be explained by the electrical structure of matter. However, it is not the philosophical concept of mass but its mathematical treatment that occupies physicists. Einstein’s famous equation, E = mc2, demonstrated that mass and electromagnetic energy are directly related. But mystification resulted when the earlier concept that related mass to ‘quantity of matter’ was unconsciously substituted. Textbooks and encyclopaedias today slip unnoticeably into the error of using the words ‘mass’ and ‘matter’ interchangeably. A NASA educational website tells us that “mass is a measure of how much matter a planet is made of.” It shows that the confusion of mass with quantity of matter infects astrophysics.
http://www.holoscience.com/wp/electric- ... -universe/
But the way its dealt with still irks me (generally speaking, not having a shot at Thornhill here)... as in the "seperation" it seems to have from the overall dynamic it is a "part" of .... Understandable when accepting our human limitations to see into the spectrum with our limited senses? ... Now of course we have a great suite of instruments that can do this ... conceptually though it is still treated in a cave-man like way imo

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by jacmac » Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:02 pm
Kiwi said
Under the Photosphere? ......a giant pair of Photo-knickers ?
Really, that is your best scientific response ?
Kiwi said
Binary star-systems show its incorrect to assign "size" as an indicator alone of an objects abillity to hold charge (and shine) its the current density at the surface that determines that....
I did not know our solar system was a binary situation.
One body in our system IS shining; I am suggesting that particular one (the sun) is it and not Jupiter, for example, because it is much larger. The point is, why does the current go to the sun and not to one of the planets. I am in no way saying any body of the size of our sun will shine because it is that size !!
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