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Re: Taxpayers Duped by Einstein - LIGO still peddling LIES*

Unread postby Influx » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:29 pm

Peron wrote: "Having achieved its design goals two years ago, LIGO is now producing significant scientific results. The nondetection of a signal from GRB070201 is an important step toward a very productive synergy between gravitational-wave and other astronomical communities that will contribute to our understanding of the most energetic events in the cosmos."


UM PERON? WHAT DO GAMMA RAY BURSTS HAVE TO DO WITH GRAVITY WAVES?

First highlight, what where ligos design goals? Find gravity waves! Third highlight means no gravity waves were found! And the second highlight means its scientifically meaningful data. In a sense that it proves their theory wrong. :D
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Re: Taxpayers Duped by Einstein - LIGO still peddling LIES*

Unread postby Peron » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:02 pm

Influx wrote:
Peron wrote: "Having achieved its design goals two years ago, LIGO is now producing significant scientific results. The nondetection of a signal from GRB070201 is an important step toward a very productive synergy between gravitational-wave and other astronomical communities that will contribute to our understanding of the most energetic events in the cosmos."


UM PERON? WHAT DO GAMMA RAY BURSTS HAVE TO DO WITH GRAVITY WAVES?

First highlight, what where ligos design goals? Find gravity waves! Third highlight means no gravity waves were found! And the second highlight means its scientifically meaningful data. In a sense that it proves their theory wrong. :D


They are not saying that the non detection of gravity waves is a scientific result. GRB070201 was thought to have been produced by a binary merger. But LIGO has evidence on the contrary. The on detection of a signal from GRB070201 and the proof that the GRB wasn't a binary merger was the scientific result.
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Re: Taxpayers Duped by Einstein - LIGO still peddling LIES*

Unread postby ETSubmariner » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:34 pm

Hello,

I noticed that the link to the blog from the Thunderblogs page (http://thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/index.htm) is broken, but I did get to the blog from this forum post:

Broken link from Thunderblogs main page is: http://thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/a ... 2_ligo.htm

The forum post goes to: http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblo ... 2_ligo.htm

Its missing the au of au08.

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Re: Taxpayers Duped by Einstein - LIGO still peddling LIES*

Unread postby davesmith_au » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:51 pm

Thanks for being so specific Ken, the fix was easy to effect! Much obliged.

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Re: Taxpayers Duped by Einstein - LIGO still peddling LIES*

Unread postby jjohnson » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:46 am

Where are my logic notes when I really need them!!

The error quadrilateral of the source of the GRB includes a little part of an arm of a nearby galaxy. LIGO, which has yet to detect ANY gravity waves AT ALL, noted that, as no gravity waves were detected from a binary merger in that arm at or about the same time, it "proves" that the source of the GRB definitely was not due to a binary merger. Apparently what passes for "proof" in physics these days would have a hard time passing for "idle speculation" or "non sequitur" in other sciences.

Okay, look at it another way. In its entire lifetime, no LIGO data have ever been received that would indicate that a binary merger's gravitational signal has occurred. (In fact no discernable or useful LIGO data have ever been returned, according to the researchers in describing this scientific treasure trove.) Therefore in the lifetime of the LIGO exercise, we can reasonably make several really interesting Scientific Conclusions, including:

1. NONE of the GRB's observed while LIGO has been operating can be attributed to binary mergers, leading to the conclusion that LIGO has apparently been wildly successful in suppressing binary mergers (but, unfortunately, not those pesky GRBs). This is an unexpected and wholly serendipitous science bonus, because LIGO was not actually designed to do this!

2. -or, GRB's might not be caused by binary mergers, possibly leading to speculation that there really are not any binary mergers. An even more out-of-the-box idea might be that GRB's are caused by some other unknown, possibly Dark, mechanism still unknown to Science and undetectable by LIGOs. In fact, it would not be illogical to conclude that, since LIGO has been "operational" (a loose term if there ever were one), NOTHING whatsoever which has been observed to occur in the observable universe since LEGO came on-line (i.e., was plugged in to the mains) can be attributed to a binary merger.

3. Binary mergers create GRBs, but it is the GRB's which suppress the operation of the LIGO! This would imply that GRB's arrive continuously, as LIGO detection appears to have been totally and continuously suppressed by this cause-effect relationship, except when it is shut down for improvements to extend its range by a factor of ten, AKA 1 order of magnitude. That we do not detect GRB's continuously means simply that we can't be looking everywhere, all the time, for those li'l suckers.

4. A great deal of money could have been saved by erecting a large or small stack of LEGO (TM) plastic interlocking blocks, fitting them out with a couple of laser pointers and two compact mirrors placed several metres apart, watching the mirrors VERY CAREFULLY and hand-writing notes on the detected gravity waves with a number 2 pencil in a small spiral bound notebook, with precisely the same results almost publication-ready for the peer-reviewed journals! That should put an upper limit as to the likely maximum scientific value of not just the detectability of gravitational waves, but also would provide a clear statement as to the gullibility and stoic resilience of taxpayers to being fleeced so often by Big Science to the tune of billions of $US every year on 15 April, or Separation Day.
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Re: Taxpayers Duped by Einstein - LIGO still peddling LIES*

Unread postby kiwi » Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:10 pm

This was interesting regards GRB events

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRCfI52oKxc
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Re: Taxpayers Duped by Einstein - LIGO still peddling LIES*

Unread postby StevenJay » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:32 pm

kiwi wrote:This was interesting regards GRB events http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRCfI52oKxc

I wonder what Paul La Violette would have to say about this.
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Re: Taxpayers Duped by Einstein - LIGO still peddling LIES*

Unread postby kiwi » Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:44 am

thats some resume Steven, plenty of reading there... cheers ..... is it possible the appearence of the GRB in our solar system 20 minutes after detection is not just a natural occurence of the event travelling toward us?

(having seen nothing else regards this its possible I suppose the data itself may simply have been contaminated)
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Re: Taxpayers Duped by Einstein - LIGO still peddling LIES*

Unread postby KeepitRealMark » Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:27 am

The fraise “Waste Not Want Not” comes to mind.
Does it even apply here.
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