Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943) and the Electric Universe

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Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943) and the Electric Universe

Unread postby davesmith_au » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:29 pm

November 30, 2008 ~ Guest contribution - Soupdragon42

It is surprising how few people have heard of Nikola Tesla considering his many fundamental achievements. He was an inventor, physicist, and electrical engineer of unusual intellectual brilliance. Of Serb descent, he worked mostly in the US but, all too often, others have taken the credit for this work. ... [More ... ]
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Re: Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943) and the Electric Universe

Unread postby rennurerof » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:58 am

The problem with the article and the video is the same problem found in regards with most works concerning Tesla - namely the author doesn't seem to have much of a grasp of Tesla's actual thoughts or works.

Yes, Tesla shares a very close connection to the concepts found in the Electric Universe / Plasma Cosmos fields of thought. But it is much more profound and complex than what was presented here. In fact, anyone not familiar with Tesla would find nothing in this material to see any convergence at all.

Its all well and good to demonstrate Tesla's adherence to the basic principles of science by his reasoned and logical rejection of metaphysicians in general, and Einstein's nonsense specifically. But that only impacts plasma research indirectly.

His work on radiant matter and energy, his early and long lasting work with producing lighting with and without evacuated tubes, his discovery that the sun acts as an anode and gives off high speed positive ions, the effects of these ions' interactions with the earth's atmosphere and magnetic field, his discovery of cosmic rays, his development of a dynamic theory of gravity, his thoughts on the fundamental nature of matter, etc. all highlight his importance as a pioneer in the fields now being traversed by Electric Universe and Plasma Cosmos proponents.

Works that would research these areas, especially if they used only his own words and concepts, and not the interpretations of others, would be very valuable to those studying in this field. What was presented here should have been viewed as being at the most a very rough draft of what is possible, and sent back for further development. Premature publication does no one any favours as it tends to trivialize what is indeed a very deep, complex, and important relationship.
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Re: Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943) and the Electric Universe

Unread postby Tzunamii » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:29 am

Any good sources you can link that includes these things?
Myself personally, I'd love to learn more of Tesla's perspectives and philosophies.
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Re: Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943) and the Electric Universe

Unread postby Solar » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:30 pm

It would take considerable study to understand the work of Tesla. Let alone the implications of what he may have kept in his head owing to his ability, and tendency, to completely work out the details of any theory and it's corresponding piece(s) of equipment in his head before hand. That, a short video could potentially plant the seeds of further inquiry into the man's work doesn't impress me as premature nor trivializing him at all.

Point of fact the video further demonstrates the degree to which "alternative" theories and ideas, such as Tesla's, are regaled against by institutionalized "science" despite the fact that the man's ingenuity singlehandedly lit and powers the world. And still does.

We did have some in coverage of Tesla via JL's references on the old forum with:

Recovered:Elec Theory, Maxwells Formula, Tesla Scalar Vortex to point to just one instance that I could find.

From that, links to the work of Eric Dollard (I don't think it gets any better) with:
"BORDERLAND SCIENCES RESEARCH FOUNDATION

"Twenty-first Century Books"

And also the work of Konstantin Meyl and others in this regard. It wasn't supposed to be a retrospect on the life, times, and works of Tesla which, as was stated, would be "... very deep, complex, and important ...".

You wouldn't even get the amount shown in that video from the institutions, and professionals, that should be honoring him the most!!!
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Re: Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943) and the Electric Universe

Unread postby rennurerof » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:17 pm

Tzunamii wrote:Any good sources you can link that includes these things?
Myself personally, I'd love to learn more of Tesla's perspectives and philosophies.


One of the most interesting aspects of Tesla was his great facility for teaching. Popular accounts of his life always seem to highlight his predisposition for 'show boating', but when you read the actual accounts of his lectures and demonstrations, what comes through is this overwhelming desire to educate, to share his discoveries not by boasting but by explaining exactly what he had discovered. He wanted people to understand. That he became something of a recluse in his later life simply demonstrates the forces he had to contend with to continue with his research. Just about all written accounts of his discoveries and life simply distort the truth, whether deliberately or not. Some of the books written by his most fervored admires are the worst, because they substituted their interpretations of facts for his and did so in such an enthusiastic way that readers believe they really knew what they were talking about when they didn't have a clue.

All I can recommend is to read everything he wrote, and ignore just about everything that others wrote about him. This means wading through hundreds of patents, but really, how else can you gain an understanding of just what he was doing and thinking. There are also a few text of his lectures and demonstrations, and then there is that master piece of his prepared testimony for patent litigation, as well as his biography. Its probably impossible to ever achieve any understanding at the level he attained, however, if you are fascinated by this subject, the occasional glimpses of some of what he must have understood is well worth the effort. You'll also discover that he had a fine and well used sense of humor, and was not omniscient, as his attitude toward propeller driven heavier than air craft demonstrates. However, in his field, he was a genius - probably the greatest research scientist there has ever been.

http://www.rastko.org.yu/projekti/tesla/

http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Biogra ... atents.htm

http://www.tfcbooks.com/default.htm
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/contents.htm#FSTA
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Re: Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943) and the Electric Universe

Unread postby Tzunamii » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:36 am

Thankyou Much for the info and Links!
I'll be burying myself in this, and where they lead for a long time :D
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Re: Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943) and the Electric Universe

Unread postby Sparks » Mon May 11, 2009 4:23 pm

There is only so much you can get in a 10 minute video, and the point of this one was to highlight the concordances between Tesla's worldview and today's Electric Universe. :idea:
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Re: Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943) and the Electric Universe

Unread postby flyingcloud » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:04 pm

Happy Birthday Mr. Tesla
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