Anti-Earth

[donebull]

Is there an ancient myth source for an anti-Earth being on the opposite side of Sol (Saturn)?

Or is it only the math creation of Philolaus? Is there any evidence that Philolaus
didn't use an older source for his math balancing idea for a day Sun centered model?

I ask because there is evidence that Earth is the anti-Earth and Eden a different body.
Peace

James Conway

[Grey Cloud]

Hi James and welcome aboard.

You asked:

Is there an ancient myth source for an anti-Earth being on the opposite side of Sol (Saturn)?

Off the top of my head I would say no. In virtually all mythologies, two of the first things created are the heavens and the Earth. I cannot recall ever reading about an anti-Earth. And, as an aside, I cannot recall reading anything ancient which puts Earth anywhere near Saturn.

Or is it only the math creation of Philolaus? Is there any evidence that Philolaus
didn't use an older source for his math balancing idea for a day Sun centered model?

To the best of my knowledge, only Philolaus advocates the notion of a counter-Earth. As for him having access to older material, I would assume that he did.

I ask because there is evidence that Earth is the anti-Earth and Eden a different body.

Would you care to expand on this please? I'm most curious.

[moses]

This is Saturn System stuff. The ocean surrounded the Earth. The Earth
consisted of this planet plus Mars and Venus and Saturn, at least, plus
a plasma cell joining the planets together. Thus Eden was concerned with
Mars, Venus and Saturn, which were considerede a part of Earth.
Mo

[donebull]

James Conway[/quote]

Hi James and welcome aboard.





Thanks. I was on the older Kronia forum but that was some time ago.





You asked:

Is there an ancient myth source for an anti-Earth being on the opposite side of Sol (Saturn)?

Off the top of my head I would say no. In virtually all mythologies, two of the first things created are the heavens and the Earth. I cannot recall ever reading about an anti-Earth. And, as an aside, I cannot recall reading anything ancient which puts Earth anywhere near Saturn.

Or is it only the math creation of Philolaus? Is there any evidence that Philolaus
didn't use an older source for his math balancing idea for a day Sun centered model?

To the best of my knowledge, only Philolaus advocates the notion of a counter-Earth. As for him having access to older material, I would assume that he did.

I ask because there is evidence that Earth is the anti-Earth and Eden a different body.

Would you care to expand on this please? I'm most curious.

Is there an ancient myth source for an anti-Earth being on the opposite side of Sol (Saturn)?

This is Saturn System stuff. The ocean surrounded the Earth. The Earth
consisted of this planet plus Mars and Venus and Saturn, at least, plus
a plasma cell joining the planets together. Thus Eden was concerned with
Mars, Venus and Saturn, which were considerede a part of Earth.
Mo

Quite right. Sorry for not being more specific. Eden is always thot of being on Earth. But Exekiel (28:13-14) and
Ephraem state that Paradise is a mountain that did not get flooded by the Deluge. However, Gensis (7:20) states
that all mountains were topped. The mountain of Paradise reached to the Moon which is why it didn't get flooded.
Paradise circles the Moon. Now, in a Earth centered solar system that they were using a body that circles the Moon
is outside of the Moons orbit. Any suggestion that Eden was on Earth requires that they point to the flaming sword
of light that blocks its enterance. The flaming sword of light is an obvious plasma phenomena.

I need the help of someone who knows the Saturn myth inside and out because what has been taken for granted
even in the field is a block to this kind of inquire.

BTW I read somewhere else on the forum of the desire for dates.

The Flood is given a date of 36,358 BCE by Manetho and Bablyon.
The fall of the Babylon Tower in 5,502 BCE by Africanus.
The day of Joshua at 1410 BCE which is the third polar reversal
with the Deluge date as the first in the traditions of man.
Egyptian records give a 2045 BCE date for Abraham and Lot event
that is the most likely 2nd polar reversal event of the three.

Peace

James Conway

[moses]

BTW I read somewhere else on the forum of the desire for dates.

The Flood is given a date of 36,358 BCE by Manetho and Bablyon.
The fall of the Babylon Tower in 5,502 BCE by Africanus.
The day of Joshua at 1410 BCE which is the third polar reversal
with the Deluge date as the first in the traditions of man.
Egyptian records give a 2045 BCE date for Abraham and Lot event
that is the most likely 2nd polar reversal event of the three.
Peace
James Conway
Have you read the Jno Cook dates ?
It is interesting whether the Earth flipped during interplanetary interactions.
But even if it did, the magnetic field probably didn't. However volcanoes
would have been areas of intense electromagnetic fields, being the cathode
or anode of interplanetary lightning. Thus determinations of the Earth's
magnetic field from magma cooled at this time, won't work. We really
know so little.
Mo

[saturnine]

But Exekiel (28:13-14) and Ephraem state that Paradise is a mountain that did not get flooded by the Deluge.

I have heard speculation that the garden of Eden was somewhere other than earth, possibly on Mars, but I don't see any evidence for it in these verses.

13 You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
ruby, topaz and emerald,
chrysolite, onyx and jasper,
sapphire, turquoise and beryl.
Your settings and mountings were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.

14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... version=31;

[donebull]

But Exekiel (28:13-14) and Ephraem state that Paradise is a mountain that did not get flooded by the Deluge.

I have heard speculation that the garden of Eden was somewhere other than earth, possibly on Mars, but I don't see any evidence for it in these verses.

13 You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
ruby, topaz and emerald,
chrysolite, onyx and jasper,
sapphire, turquoise and beryl.
Your settings and mountings were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.

14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... version=31;

Commentaries connect Eden, the garden of God and holy mount of God as the same.
I will no quibble if anyone disagrees. But commentaries abound with the idea of
Eden as a mountain.

BTW I read somewhere else on the forum of the desire for dates.

The Flood is given a date of 36,358 BCE by Manetho and Bablyon.
The fall of the Babylon Tower in 5,502 BCE by Africanus.
The day of Joshua at 1410 BCE which is the third polar reversal
with the Deluge date as the first in the traditions of man.
Egyptian records give a 2045 BCE date for Abraham and Lot event
that is the most likely 2nd polar reversal event of the three.
Peace
James Conway
Have you read the Jno Cook dates ?
It is interesting whether the Earth flipped during interplanetary interactions.
But even if it did, the magnetic field probably didn't. However volcanoes
would have been areas of intense electromagnetic fields, being the cathode
or anode of interplanetary lightning. Thus determinations of the Earth's
magnetic field from magma cooled at this time, won't work. We really
know so little.
Mo

No. What are the Jno Cook dates? Pointer would be appreciated.

The Exodus (1440 BCE) also flipped over many times but did so an
even number of times so in the end same north and south poles.

[moses]

Jno Cook : http://saturniancosmology.org/
Mo

[mague]

Is there an ancient myth source for an anti-Earth being on the opposite side of Sol (Saturn)?

Or is it only the math creation of Philolaus? Is there any evidence that Philolaus
didn't use an older source for his math balancing idea for a day Sun centered model?

I ask because there is evidence that Earth is the anti-Earth and Eden a different body.
Peace

James Conway

The central and invisible fire of Philolaus is outside our solar system. No matter if we take sol or saturn as center. He stated that the sun is rotating around the central fire as well. Actually he thought the sun is sort of a lens that is focusing and radiating the central fire. In that regard he is one of the oldest EU protagonists.

He said there is a 2nd earth opposite side of earth and on the other side of the central fire. If we wanted to look for anti-earth we should look on the other side of the galactic center (if the galactic year isnt a myth) But we cant look through it, which again supports Philolaus idea that we cant see the other earth.

[donebull]

Is there an ancient myth source for an anti-Earth being on the opposite side of Sol (Saturn)?

Or is it only the math creation of Philolaus? Is there any evidence that Philolaus
didn't use an older source for his math balancing idea for a day Sun centered model?

I ask because there is evidence that Earth is the anti-Earth and Eden a different body.
Peace

James Conway

The central and invisible fire of Philolaus is outside our solar system. No matter if we take sol or saturn as center. He stated that the sun is rotating around the central fire as well. Actually he thought the sun is sort of a lens that is focusing and radiating the central fire. In that regard he is one of the oldest EU protagonists.

He said there is a 2nd earth opposite side of earth and on the other side of the central fire. If we wanted to look for anti-earth we should look on the other side of the galactic center (if the galactic year isnt a myth) But we cant look through it, which again supports Philolaus idea that we cant see the other earth.

Thanks

That's a lot more than I got on the net.

Has any the the big guys answered PC questions like this on the forum before?

Is a conference still in the works?

And thanks Moses for the pointer to Jno.

Peace

James Conway