The Primer Fields?

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The Primer Fields?

Unread postby cantdrive85 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:32 pm

I'm curious what you guys think about this research, seems to me what they are describing (bowl shaped mag field generators) are the conditions created by a pinch. Seems to me to confirm many aspects of the EUT.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... EPlyiW-xGI
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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby Sparky » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:59 pm

Very interesting. Thank you. Do you know where the other videos might be?

They said that no outside power was needed to produce galaxies. How do they think the bowl shaped, magnetic fields are produced.
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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby cantdrive85 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:25 am

Sparky wrote:Very interesting. Thank you. Do you know where the other videos might be?

They said that no outside power was needed to produce galaxies. How do they think the bowl shaped, magnetic fields are produced.


I agree with that assessment, that's why I think they are just reproducing the equivalent of a pinch by using the bowl magnets.
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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby kell1990 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:45 am

According to YouTube the author has uploaded 2 videos. David LaPoint, the author, mentions in the longer video that there are 6 videos in this series, so I assume that they will follow these.

IMHO, anyone with even a passing interest in science should take a look at this.
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Unread postby Vasa » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:46 pm

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Wow. :o
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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby cantdrive85 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:39 pm

Sparky wrote:Very interesting. Thank you. Do you know where the other videos might be?

They said that no outside power was needed to produce galaxies. How do they think the bowl shaped, magnetic fields are produced.


In further discussion with this gentleman, he insists that this bowl shaped magnetic field is intrinsic to all matter, and therefore is inseparable from matter. He insists it has nothing to do with electricity, it is just magnetism that creates this bowl.

I have a hard time understanding how you can have a dynamic magnetic field like this without moving particles.
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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby GaryN » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:57 pm

Of course there will be some serious math required to prove his assertations, I mean experiments are all well and good, but withouth the math, well, it don't mean a thing.
Hows about some Hopf fibrations to start with:
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Hopf Fibration in Cosmic Structures
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Seriously though, I can't wait to see the other episodes. And the cheap clean power? He'd better be watching out for the JP Morgan mafia!
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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby kell1990 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:44 pm

"[quote="GaryN"]Of course there will be some serious math required to prove his assertations, I mean experiments are all well and good, but withouth the math, well, it don't mean a thing.
Hows about some Hopf fibrations to start with:
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Hopf Fibration in Cosmic Structures
https://sites.google.com/site/hopffibra ... escription"

Did you notice that the description and the illustrations in the video is not a torus,, but two toruses, one atop the other? One "positevly" charged, and the other negatively chargeed." The illustration and description you provide doesn't fit this.

I hope Mr. LaPiont presents the rest of the videos so that the public can see them.
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Unread postby Vasa » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:08 am

IIRC correctly he was pumping 70k volts into the vaccuum chamber from his remarks in the beginning of the video. These shapes may be correct as intrinsic to matter but he still needed electricity. He may well have stumbled n a new piece of the puzzle but he hasn't in any way ruled out the necessity of electricity.
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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby Sparky » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:49 am

cantdrive85 wrote:
In further discussion with this gentleman, he insists that this bowl shaped magnetic field is intrinsic to all matter, and therefore is inseparable from matter. He insists it has nothing to do with electricity, it is just magnetism that creates this bowl.

I have a hard time understanding how you can have a dynamic magnetic field like this without moving particles.


Did you let him know that there are some here that are interested in this "bowl" concept and that there is a thread discussing it?

Since the magnetic field looks the same as a bar magnet, how did they make the leap to the "bowl" shape.

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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby kell1990 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:05 am

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Did you notice that the description and the illustrations in the video is not a torus,, >>but two toruses, one atop the other? <<

This is incorrect. I'm not sure of the mathematical name for the shape of the "bowl" , but it isn't a torus.
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Unread postby kell1990 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:36 pm

kell1990 wrote:[
Did you notice that the description and the illustrations in the video is not a torus,, >>but two toruses, one atop the other? <<

This is incorrect. I'm not sure of the mathematical name for the shape of the "bowl" , but it isn't a torus.


Shoulda left it alone. The "bowls" with holes in them actually are toruses. A topological shape that can be stretched into a "donut" shape qualifies as a torus.
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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby Sparky » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:11 pm

a "donut" shape qualifies as a torus.


I have yet to identify a torus without someone pointing it out to me....they look like smears of dust to me... :?
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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby kell1990 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:59 pm

[quote="cantdrive85
In further discussion with this gentleman, he insists that this bowl shaped magnetic field is intrinsic to all matter, and therefore is inseparable from matter. He insists it has nothing to do with electricity, it is just magnetism that creates this bowl.

I have a hard time understanding how you can have a dynamic magnetic field like this without moving particles.[/quote]
If you have further contact with this gentleman, could you find out why the patent number shown in the video--13624857--isn't found on a search of pending patents? And why are comments on the video disabled?
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Re: The Primer Fields?

Unread postby morris86 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:45 pm

Hello Thunderbolts forum , new here, Seems I have reached my own 'tipping point ' after watching The Primer Fields Part 1 by David LaPoint. His experiments seem to update and repeat experiments done earlier last century in a modern way .
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