Titus-Bode Inspired NIAMI

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Titus-Bode Inspired NIAMI

Unread postby GaryN » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:22 pm

Funny how ideas come to you sometimes. I was hand mixing some cement in my wheelbarrow the other day, and suddenly I get all these ideas. Reading about the Titus-Bode rule must have told my subconscious something, which it had chewed on for a couple of days, and spit out these finest of Mad ideas! Or are they?

"The Titus Bode rule is not the result of any known planetary interaction, nor is it even very accurate. Yet many astronomers suspect that it may be telling us something about the formation of the solar system,they just don't know quite what."

In this forum, I will attempt to explain the workings of the Electric Universe. As with the Standard Model scientists, I will
explain any unusual real world observations by creating solutions that can not be verified or might not make sense.

The following initial topics will be discused:

The Sun as an Exotic Magnetron.

Magnetic Confinement and Charge Accumulation.

The Shape of Confined Charged Local and Galactic Structures.

Saturns Rings as Dusty Plasma Flywheels.

Saturnian Moonlet Seeding in Ring Boundry Layer Vortices.

Mooonlet Accretion in the Saturnian Ring System by Repeated Cyclic Plasma Sputtering.

More topics will be added as I dream them up.

The Sun as an Exotic Magnetron.(Rev 0.1)

Presently, our sun and all other stars are thought to be powered by nuclear fusion. In reality it is a magnetron. Not just any old magnetron, but at minimum a multiple frequency magnetron, and possibly a variable frequency AND multifrequency one. It most likely incorporates the quadrupole mechanism, and may have a Tau-R box function thrown in, just for a lark.

A few magnetron examples.

The most common magnetron is found in a microwave oven, but there are many industrial, civilian and military uses.
Most common is the single frequency, resonant cavity type:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetron

A dual, fixed frequency magnetron, refered to as the Rising Sun(!) design, due to the phsical structure.

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/47744 ... ption.html

Tunable units all seem to be covered by patents from Westinghouse, Rayethon et al, going back to the '30s. Most are mechanically tunable. The military, through their corporate arms, no doubt controlled access to these technologies due to their importance primarily in radar systems.

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book11/45i.htm

Our local Exotic Magnetron is powered by a large but very low relative density rotating galactic plasma filament, not visible or presently detectable by us. Fusion not required.


Coming up next:

Magnetic Confinement and Charge Accumulation.
In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller
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Re: Titus-Bode Inspired NIAMI

Unread postby kevin » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:28 am

GaryN,
Looking forward to your posts.
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Re: Titus-Bode Inspired NIAMI

Unread postby GaryN » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:18 pm

Looking at ancient sun sysmbols, I have to wonder what people were seeing.

http://psp.tephras.com/vector/shapes/SunSymbols.gif
http://www.hindubooks.org/sudheer_birod ... /surya.gif
http://www.hinducounciluk.org/newsite/c ... kacol2.gif

There are lots more out there. Many of them are very similar, but seem to change with time.
As part of the cyclic solar system wandering through the galactic plane, the sun-magnetron will be subject to fluctuations in its power input, and/or environment, and its appearance will change significantly.
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Re: Titus-Bode Inspired NIAMI

Unread postby GaryN » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:29 pm

Jumping the gun a little here in my topic list, but I thought this video clip priceless.

Promethius: Interaction with ring, sputtering, (loss of transmission during arc), surface charge equalising with ring, repulsion. The ring particles then do some equalisation of their own.

http://wanderingspace.net/wp-content/up ... a08397.gif
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Re: Titus-Bode Inspired NIAMI

Unread postby GaryN » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:42 pm

Good image of a non-CME straining the confinement layer.

http://www.utahskies.org/image_library/ ... 041113.jpg

Does this equate to a valence shell? What about Bohrs(or Parsons) Magnetron model?

http://www.geocities.com/rlok69/chap06.htm
http://www.powerset.com/explore/semhtml ... +magnetron


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Re: Titus-Bode Inspired NIAMI

Unread postby GaryN » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:17 pm

The quadrupole magnetron.

Maybe just coincidence?

Quadrupole field strength. Red high, green low
http://www.bnl.gov/magnets/Image_Lib/DE ... _field.jpg

Supernova 1987A, or a naked quadrupole?
http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/2004 ... ts/web.jpg
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Re: Titus-Bode Inspired NIAMI

Unread postby GaryN » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:15 pm

(As I don't know what other TBers might know, I'll post this as a matter of interest for those who might not know. :geek:

Magnetic Confinement and Charge Accumulation. The basics.

If the RF energy from a magnetron is confined, with no where to go, it will accumulate.

(from http://amasci.com/weird/microwave/voltage3.html)

" A typical oven's output might only be 1000 watts or so. And yes, 1000W spread over a few hundred square centimeter does not proudce strong e-fields. The fields will only be a few hundred volts per cm. (For corona discharge we need around 30,000V/cm, a hundred times more intense.) But you're forgetting something important: the voltage rise for resonant circuits and standing waves. If there's a huge roast (a significant electrical load) then... 1000W leaves the magnetron, and 1000W is absorbed by the meat. There's a 1000W energy flow between magnetron and food, and the max. e-field inside the oven stays low.

On the other hand, if there's no food in the oven, then the 1000W bounces back and forth, yet the magnetron still puts out more energy. This adds to the waves already there. It's like wiggling your hand in a full bathtub: energy is stored as standing waves, and the waves build up higher and higher until frictional losses finally halt their growth. Inside an empty microwave oven you might have 50,000 watts in one direction and 49,000W in the other (with the magnetron supplying the 1000W difference.) The interior of the oven is a resonator, and the peak wattage within that space can become HUMONGOUS, since it only depends on the "Q" factor of the resonator; it depends on the "friction" of the system. Q is high, so huge wattage gives huge voltage. If there's no food and no glass of water in the oven, then the e-fields become intense, and the tiniest burr on a metal object can trigger the formation of a large "Saint Elmo's Fire" which consumes hundreds of watts of RF energy and resembles a blowtorch.

In fact, the empty chamber of a microwave oven is very much like the secondary coil of a Tesla Coil. The only major difference is the operating frequency. RF energy is injected into the resonator, and the output voltage rises and rises until finally the conductors get hot (or until finally an electric arc breaks out somewhere.) Tesla coil secondaries do this. Microwave ovens do this too. With nothing in the oven chamber, either the metal walls and glass parts get very hot, or an electric arc bursts forth from a sharp metal point somewhere inside the oven cavity."


If you have an old microwave oven or two kicking around, you can experiment with plasmas (arcing if you are not careful!) and charge confinement. DO NOT remove any shielding or parts from the oven!

http://amasci.com/weird/microwave/voltage2.html

In a microwave oven, the confinement is by way of a Faraday cage, but a magnetic field will also work. With the Sun, confinement is within a magnetic shell, which accumulates the magnetron produced EM waves until a point is reached where the accumualed energies will self-assemble matter.

Next: Harmonics, resonance and standing waves.
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Re: Titus-Bode Inspired NIAMI

Unread postby GaryN » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:43 pm

Harmonics, resonance and standing waves.

If a picture is worth a thousand words...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... spokes.jpg

What is going on inside Saturn can be inferred from what is going on outside. We can also see the moonlet accretion in the ring boundary layers, though the seeding occuring in the boundary layer vortices is not visible at this scale.
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