The Sun as a planet?

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: The Sun as a planet?

Unread post by polarityparadox » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:43 am

kevin wrote:Grey Cloud,
Kybalion,
http://www.heartcoherence.com/anu-of-th ... teAtom.htm
kevin

Hey Kevin,

I'm right there with you in using the theosophical insights of how matter forms itself. Check out the work of Christopher Bird, famous for his books the secret life of plants and secrets of the soil. This link goes to a free ebook version of his last book in that "trilogy", the secret life of nature...

http://www.eso-garden.com/index.php?/we ... of_nature/

It is a beautiful rendition of the works of steiner and other clairvoyant seers and their explanations of how nature is completely infused by living beings of all kinds. If you read through the book you will find the most amazing resonances to plasma reality as well, because of their descriptions of how the little elemental beings like to interact with physical reality. It will take the form of plasma discharge like globes and waves of "pleasure" as they flit in and out of material reality. They like to "surf" the physical electro-magnetic level and build up charge and then they discharge an etheric/astral bio-electric field back into nature, to the great delight of all living creatures, thus nature is empowered/infused with higher radiances.....
When Occult Chemistry was first published in 1895, scientists
rejected its amazing revelations as pure fantasy. Almost a century was
to pass until the mid-1980s, when an English authority on particle
physics, Dr. Stephen M. Philips, browsing for rare books in Los
Angeles, happened to run across a copy of an old theosophical book,
Kingsland's Physics of the Secret Doctrine; it contained a few of the Occult
Chemistry diagrams.
Back in England, Philips, his curiosity aroused, found a copy of the
third edition of Occult Chemistry and, as he puts it, "was hooked."
Armed with the advantage of the most recent theories in particle
physics, Phillips was quickly convinced by the accuracy of the diagrams
with which Besant and Leadbeater had illustrated their book.With uncanny
detail, they had described every element known in their time from
hydrogen to uranium, includng several isotopes as yet unknown each
with its correct number of what today are named quarks, particles
discovered well after the death of Besant and Leadbeater, and subquarks,
the subject of today's intense inquiry. But more of this later.
Not until the end of the 1970s were particle physicists able to postulate
the existence of six dfferent kinds of quarks-to which they
gave the facetious names of up, down, charm, strange, top, and bottom-
along with their corresponding antiquarks.The theosophists had
gone further, clearly depicting subquarks, the next smaller particles of
matter so strenuously being researched by modern physicists with their
supercolliding smashers of atoms.
Stephen Phillips's summary of the theosophists' feat posed a challenge
to the world of physics when he declared,"The new patterns derived
by application of the rules of theoretical physics tally perfectly
with the diagrams which illustrate Occult Chemistry."
My own deduction seemed equally provocative. If Besant and
Leadbeater, using their yogic powers, could accurately describe matter
down to its ultimate physical particles, what of their equally detailed
descriptions of the Third Kingdom, the realm of nature spirits? If the
two theosophists could describe unseeable quarks, why not pay attention
to their equally detailed description of another whole world
equally unseen by most of us but perfectly real to sensitives from
Paracelsus to Blavatsky, from John Dee to Rudolf Steiner, depicted by
every race on earth-a world of gnomes and nymphs, of sylphs and
salamanders?
To Steiner, it is only occult knowledge, virtually what was taught in
the mystery schools of antiquity, that can lead to knowledge of the
world from which our world is derived and can lead to the world of
fairy. Nor is such knowledge obtainable by means of our ordinary faculties;
it is only obtainable clairvoyantly or "outside" the body, by means
"that lie hidden in the soul, like a seed in the earth."The resulting data,
"the single, undivided property of all mankind," does not, says Steiner,
admit of differing interpretations any more than does mathematics.
Then came the world of shamanism and more research. As occultism
and shamanism are twin forks of one primordial wisdom heritage,
I found the shamanic legacy on nature spirits agreeing almost
completely with that of the occultist. The great German anthropologist
Gerardo Reichel Dolmatoff, expert on South American Indians,
has compiled a bibliography of almost a thousand books and papers
written by professional academics on various facets of shamanism
around the globe, dealing with such occult lore as out-of-body travel,
forests teeming with spirits, and the healing power of plants. Were
shamans not gifted with some supernaturally subtle clairvoyant view of
nature, especially of the curative properties of particular plants among
the scores of deadly poisonous ones, the forest would surely be strewn
with the corpses of the experimenters. Shamans must be seeing something
in some other dimension.
But whereas the integrity of the shamanic tradition, once laughed
at as primitive fantasy, has been revalued in recent years and much of
what it has to say about the spiritual dimension underlying and upholding
the physical dimension is being taken seriously by specialists in
fields from psychology to physics, the occult side of the primordial
wisdom tradition, though in many ways more comprehensive than the
shamanic and more understandable to a modern Western temperament,
is deliberately ignored. Why?
It is ignored largely because of the false and unnecessary stigmas attached
by an ignorant or ossified establishment to occult authors such
as Leadbeater, Besant, Blavatsky, Steiner.
warmly,
Polarityparadox
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Re: The Sun as a planet?

Unread post by kevin » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:35 am

Polarityparadox,
Imagine, that the sun is like a wonderfull garden,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/chelsea/show_gardens/life.shtml

You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Kevin

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Re: The Sun as a planet?

Unread post by Krackonis » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:05 pm

kevin wrote:Krackonis,
I consider that the sun will be as you say, and that it will continue to pack on mass as long as the present condition maintains.
It may be that it is composed of the ultimate of all the available content of universe, which means there may be huge amounts of gold.
Everything I detect in nature utilises implosion, not explosion, therefore it makes sense that the sun will be acting in this manner, imploding , but at the same time emitting its residue.
transmution will lead to certain things been discarded, all of which will vary constantly due to the inputs been subjected to resistance as planets block differing pathways leading into and out of specific alignments.
The reguler recorded cycles of events around the sun may well be therefore due to the relative position/s of all the other planets linked with it.
I view everything not from the point of view of mass, but from the point of view of the substance all around and permeating the mass, and that this substance has flow , in predominant direction/s.
The mass is a mere consequence of the substance flowing in a lattice structure, the mass coalesces at major points on the lattice, and then creates a resistance to the free flow of the substance of space.
We as a consequence of mass view everything from that view point, attribute all actions to what we see and think of as solids etc, what we should be doing is looking at the substance of space.
Kevin
Well some try and see the sun as best they can, much like when you are not sure but you see a pattern in something random. Or when you 'see a UFO' you just are seeing Plasma discharge in a magnetically contorted way. Magnetic field changes can cause terror in humans.

The principles of electricity are radially and also of a polar alignment. North to South.

The Sun is losing surface and gaining it again. The over abundance of charge is why it 'appears' to weigh less. Same thing for Saturn. (Saturn less dense than water? What are you high?)

Certain planets with a magnetic field, I believe are "Hollow" like Geodes, and some are Silicate based and solid, like Mars.

I believe the hollow space becomes active by induction. The current travelling through the planet as it interacts with the sun, will spin winds up in certain clear bands around any planet, and if there is a space in the center, then there is a space for plasma to move via induction.

This generates the magnetic field. Since the Ions are travelling through the planet, I would assume that they could 'build up' and we would have mass creation in the center of these hollow planets. Which causes them to expand.
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