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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by Sovereign » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:48 pm

junglelord wrote:
They repel and attract based on their spin direction.
Opposite spins attract, same spins repel.
Charges are always rotating.
Magnetic fields always rotate at 90 degrees to those charge directions in a specific manner.
But how do they attract and repel?
What connects 'charges' that causes this?
Charges rotate? What do charges look like so I can imagine them rotating?

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by junglelord » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:17 pm

Charges are two geometric clouds, they are distributed.
The electron is not a point. It is a charge cloud with definite geometry.
Coulombs Constant and many others are clear about the geometry.
There are two charges. They have distinct geometries.

Distribute Rotating Electrostatic Spheres 4pi.
Distributed Rotating Electromagnetic Toroids 4pi^2

The EM toroid surrounds the ES sphere.
That is the electron configuration.
It is two charge clouds in relationship.
If you pay careful attention to what I just said, you will see that is a gyroscope.
This goes back to everything I just said about spin and its mechanical effects explaining Flemings Rule.
Structure and function cannot be seperated and will explain every Rule.
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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by Sovereign » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:40 pm

junglelord wrote:Charges are two geometric clouds, they are distributed.
The electron is not a point. It is a charge cloud with definite geometry.
Coulombs Constant and many others are clear about the geometry.
There are two charges. They have distinct geometries.

Distribute Rotating Electrostatic Spheres 4pi.
Distributed Rotating Electromagnetic Toroids 4pi^2

The EM toroid surrounds the ES sphere.
That is the electron configuration.
It is two charge clouds in relationship.
If you pay careful attention to what I just said, you will see that is a gyroscope.
This goes back to everything I just said about spin and its mechanical effects explaining Flemings Rule.
Structure and function cannot be seperated and will explain every Rule.
:D
So charges look like clouds? One of them is a "sphere 12.56" and the other is a "toriod 157.7536"? Not sure what that means. The sphere in the center of the toroid makes a gyroscope?

What connects charges that allows them to attract?

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by junglelord » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:54 pm

Where did you get those numbers?
A 3-D Sphere is 4pi.
A 3-D toroid is 4pi^2
Spin direction controls attraction and repulsion.
Opposite spins attract, same spins repel.
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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by junglelord » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:55 pm

Where did you get those numbers?
A 3-D Sphere is 4pi. That is the geometry of ES Charge.
A 3-D Toroid is 4pi^2. That is the geometry of EM Charge.
This is the Electron Gyroscope.
Image
Spin direction controls attraction and repulsion.
Opposite spins attract, same spins repel....MOST OF THE TIME!

When they do not, like I mentioned, nature will unleash her greatest energies.
Birkeland Currents, are two like charges that attract in a spiral helix. This is the way a Z-Pinch Forms.
That is the most powerful event in the universe.

The Dual Vortex of Magnetic Fields is clearly explained by Howard Johnson, the father of Spintronics.
The Secret World of Magnets is a must read for everyone....especially if you want to understand the universe.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/34317/Spintro ... rd-Johnson
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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by Sovereign » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:59 pm

junglelord wrote:Where did you get those numbers?
A 3-D Sphere is 4pi.
A 3-D Toroid is 4pi^2
Image
Spin direction controls attraction and repulsion.
Opposite spins attract, same spins repel....MOST OF THE TIME
http://www.scribd.com/doc/34317/Spintro ... rd-Johnson
I multiplied your numbers. Nice pic now can you draw one of 2 opposite charges attracting?

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by junglelord » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:02 pm

DOOH!
:lol:
Opposite Spin Attraction
You can see that and also two similar ones attracting.
Go to the Secret World of Magnets link.
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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by Sovereign » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:10 pm

junglelord wrote:DOOH!
:lol:
Opposite Spin Attraction
You can see that and also two similar ones attracting.
Go to the Secret World of Magnets link.
:D
I did not find the picture but this computer isn't particularly great. But isn't that paper about magnets I thought we were talking about charges?

Two balls spinning side by side cannot attract or repel unless they are connected somehow. I want to find out what this thing connecting them is.

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by junglelord » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:36 pm

Wow, you really missed it.
If two magnetic poles are opposite spin and they attract.
This is through the B-Field.
Why do you not understand why two opposite charges attract?
This is via the E-Field.

Both are dependent on the Conductance of the Aether.

Johnson is quite implicit, the field lines are real and are dynamic vortex forms.
The dual vortex that he carefully measures and plots are I believe the aether.
Aether is a two spin rotating magnetic field.
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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by Sovereign » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:39 pm

junglelord wrote:Wow, you really missed it.
If two magnetic poles are opposite spin and they attract.
This is through the B-Field.
Why do you not understand why two opposite charges attract?
This is via the E-Field.

Both are dependent on the Conductance of the Aether.

Johnson is quite implicit, the field lines are real and are dynamic vortex forms.
The dual vortex that he carefully measures and plots are I believe the aether.
Aether is a two spin rotating magnetic field.
I understand that they do attract, I simply want to find out what connects them that allows them to attract.

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by Solar » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:06 pm

Sovereign wrote: I understand that they do attract, I simply want to find out what connects them that allows them to attract.
You might want to have a gander at "Einstein's Idiots # 9 -- The secret Law of Attraction". In the "Thread Theory" the principle of "Attraction" occurs because of "electric threads" or "electromagnetic ropes".

"electric current consist of the in-situ spinning of the electron serpentine..."
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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by junglelord » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:13 pm

Here is a link with a java graphics. This will expain everything. Really nice.
http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tut ... index.html

Then watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zy0VHBXxLU
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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by Sovereign » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:38 pm

junglelord wrote:Here is a link with a java graphics. This will expain everything. Really nice.
http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tut ... index.html

Then watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zy0VHBXxLU
Well that video and java described what happens but doesn't explain it. I wish I was better with language so I could ask my questions clearly. Showing what happens to a piece of wire or foil in a magnetic field doesn't explain it, as with the hand rules it simply describes it.
Solar wrote:
Sovereign wrote: I understand that they do attract, I simply want to find out what connects them that allows them to attract.
You might want to have a gander at "Einstein's Idiots # 9 -- The secret Law of Attraction". In the "Thread Theory" the principle of "Attraction" occurs because of "electric threads" or "electromagnetic ropes".

"electric current consist of the in-situ spinning of the electron serpentine..."
Thank you Solar I have watched those videos. But I want to know jungles version.

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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by junglelord » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:12 pm

You do watch the direction of the vectors in the Java.
The book on Magnets shows more detail.
Two opposite spins will normally attract.
Same spins will normally repel.
When same spins attact, the universe shows her most power.
The ability to take same spin and create technology is the future of science.
The vortex is the source. It must by design have a dual opposite.
These will always attract.
The key is making two vortex's of the same spin attract,
then you have mastered the universe and also hold the keys to power.
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Re: Electricity and Plasma, from Micro to Macro and Beyond...

Unread post by junglelord » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:12 pm

You can clearly watch the direction of the vectors in the Java.
The repulsion is due to spins of the same direction.
Remember the gryoscope model? This will cause the mechanical effect you see.
Two same spins will repel and so they do.

The book on Magnets shows more detail.
Two opposite spins will normally attract.
Same spins will normally repel.
Contrary to popular belief the two poles are not equal.
The North pole is stronger.
This is very important.
When same spins attact, the universe shows her most power.
The ability to take same spin and create technology is the future of science.
All future avenues of technology is based on understanding Spin and Materials Science.
Nanotechnology. Structure and function cannot be seperated.
:D

I also believe that another secret is locked up in same charge attraction.
The vortex is the source of awsome power.

The key is making two charges of the same spin attract,
then you have mastered the universe and also hold the keys to power.
The attraction of two like charges in a plasma creates the vortex.
The vortex has the ability to seperate charges and magnetic fields.
It also has the power to create nuclear fusion.
This is the power of the Birkeland Current and the Z Pinch.
This is only possible to comprehend when you understand spin and its relationships.
With this knowledge there is nothing you cannot control.
The vortex of mercury plasma is a viable source for antigravity.
http://www.intalek.com/Papers/Nazi-Bell-1024x768.pdf
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