Ok thanks for that rundown. That is generally the cycle I was thinking about insofar as this theory. Jupiter represents what remains of what it used to be, a luminous star with its own planets. The Sun captured Jupiter and Jupiter then went from being a Sun to a planet. And it retained and/or captured objects that its mass could attract, unlike the "Sun" which is more massive and has the ability to capture an entire solar system of its own, including Jupiter, et al. Titan at Saturn, for example, is older than Saturn and was probably a planet with its own moons for a time. But now it is a "moon." It is a celestial exchange program.JeffreyW wrote:In this theory a solid rocky world which has an iron core and differentiated interior was once all stages of star evolution, including plasmatic stars, gaseous stars, and ocean stars. They are all distinct stages of a single star's evolution.viscount aero wrote:
And even if fissioning does occur, subsequently, at stars, I think by the time an object has become a "Jupiter" it is finished with its fissioning career. What do you think about that?
And then about capture. What propels/enables bodies to drift, go ballistic, and then become captured? I think as celestial objects go from a star to a planet, while shedding their massive Jovian/star-like atmospheres, the bodies eventually swap places and go elsewhere. For example, whereas Titan as a "star" may have had its own planets and moons--it is now, itself, a moon. What do you think of this? Would supernovae eject planets, giving them velocities and trajectories, to be captured by other systems? How likely is capturing?
The fissioning of a celestial body from a star is questionable for me, only because young stars like the Sun are really, really hot on their surfaces and no matter can clump together in that type of environment. Isn't plasma itself another term for "completely separated matter"? So if a body were to come out of the Sun, it would be completely separated, or in other words it would come out of the Sun in tiny ionized particles, this is known as the solar wind.
The only solution is since the material in the surface is too hot for matter to clump together, it must do so away from the surface, towards the inner regions of the hot young star. Unfortunately the idea of the cooler portions of hot young stars is their interior frightens establishment scientists. Yet, that is what happens, as you go towards the center of hot young stars they get cooler, there is even evidence of this in sunspots, which are thousands of degrees cooler than the surface.
The matter a hot young star is comprised of clumps together in its center. Thus, the "planet" is formed in the interior of hot young stars as they gravitationally collapse. This is also against mainstream dogma because the Sun is suppose to go red giant phase, which is incorrect. The Sun will collapse and cool and the material which cools the fastest will form the core first (nickel/iron), which is a giant crystalline ball of material. The Sun will become a orange dwarf and then a red dwarf further along its evolution. When it loses its gravitational pull, it will lose the outer stars, Neptune/Uranus, which then will travel the galaxy finding another hotter younger star. As the Sun continues to die, it will go from red dwarf to auburn dwarf and then become a brown dwarf, and then lose the orbits of Jupiter and Saturn and their moons. Thus, the brown dwarf system that the SUn will be comprised of will only have mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars.
When the Sun cools even further it will become a large gas giant and probably lose Mars and Earth. As the Sun is a gas giant it will retain the innermost dead stars, mercury and venus, thus completing the circle of solar system formation. The Sun will be given the name Jupiter and its moons will be called Io and Ganymede (Venus, Mercury).
By the time the Sun is a gas giant though it will be orbiting another younger hotter host star, and there will probably be another Earth like star looking at Jupiter wondering how it could have formed from a protoplanetary disk
This whole model is totally unacceptable to establishment cosmology They are too in love with nebular collapse theory, a more far-fetched and physically impossible theory.