Part 5: Evolution of Oriental & Neanderthal Humans
ca. 100,000 to 50,000 y.a.
Ben. said: Isn't the golden age supposed to predate the appearance of Mars, Venus, the Sun and the other stars?
arrived at during an epoch prior to our current position in the solar system? Without some sort of cyclical structure in our experience, how would the passage of "time" have been perceived or chronicled, and how would that then translate into what we currently experience as solar "years?"5,000 or so year-long Golden Age
SJ said: by what incremental standard was the "5,000 or so year-long Golden Age" arrived at during an epoch prior to our current position in the solar system? Without some sort of cyclical structure in our experience, how would the passage of "time" have been perceived or chronicled, and how would that then translate into what we currently experience as solar "years?"
Neanderthals as a separate group emerged around 400,000 years ago, and widely populated Europe from around 190,000 years ago, dying out around 28,000 years ago. Comparison of the DNA indicated that the European and Asian individuals shared around 1-4% of their DNA with the Neanderthals, suggesting Neanderthals and modern man interbred tens of thousands of years ago, leaving genes from this offshoot in modern human DNA.
- Researchers claim modern man and Neanderthals were isolated for 700,000 years. Coyotes and wolves have been isolated for 1 million years, and far more generations, but can still produce fertile offspring. 13 Similar finding exists between tiger and lions that can interbreed after 5 million years of separation. 14 15
... Theoretically, a single hybrid offspring which could reproduce would be enough to transfer positive alleles from Neanderthals to modern humans. Because of this, it's no longer possible to trace hybrids with mitochondria-DNA analysis or origin of neutral alleles. 18 Several studies show that Neanderthals contributed to the modern human genome. 19 20
Lloyd wrote:* Ted, I don't find any websites that show Neanderthals looking like gorillas..
Lloyd wrote:The second article goes on to show that autism seems to be inheritance of Neanderthal traits.
Lloyd wrote:* I think you're just trying to argue that humans descended from or were created by extraterrestrials. And I think your friend's site is based on imagination.
* Now that I've read much of the website material, it all sounds very plausible. But I hope Neanderthals weren't as ugly and mean-looking as he portrays them.
* It seems that the Levantine humans might have gotten their hairlessness in part from living in warm bodies of water, which would also help account for some human sexual features and the fact that infants are born with the instinct to swim.
* The author probably doesn't consider global catastrophism at all, but sea levels likely fluctuated a lot, due to glaciation and interglacial warming. The time from 50 to 100 millennia ago was in the Age of Darkness. I wonder if the rapid evolution of humans could have occurred during the Saturn System's entry into the Solar System about 10 to 14 millennia ago, instead of 50 to 100. Cro Magnon man is said by the author to have evolved in the Levant and then gone on the offensive against Neanderthals from there to the ends of Europe and Cro Magnon is said to have spread throughout the world. Could that have occurred 10-14 millennia ago? That's when Cardona seems to say that all of the religions and ancient myths originated. That could have been the time of the genocide against Neanderthals. Couldn't it?
tholden wrote:Vendramini's artist has fight faces on his Neanderthals. No predator would ever show a prey animal a face like that, you'd scare the prey animal off...
hex wrote:tholden wrote:Vendramini's artist has fight faces on his Neanderthals. No predator would ever show a prey animal a face like that, you'd scare the prey animal off...
Those pics have a cartoonish quality in them, reminded me Disney's Pluto the dog, who lacks teeth when he is in happy or neutral mood, and grimaces with a set of human teeth when he's angry.
Indeed, hunting is not aggression, aggression is more of an intra species phenomen, having to do w acith resource competition - mates, territory, food. You are not angry at food.
If we were food to the Neandertals, they would have looked delighted when spotting us.
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