Evidence of Directed Free-Energy Technolgy

[mathew]

[mathew]

Dr. Judy Wood will be on Coast to Coast Am Tuesday May 3rd 2011!

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/05/03

Someone must be getting nervous, because her website is not available:

http://drjudywood.com/

The book can still be purchased here:

http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/

Information and evidence can still be found on Andrew Johnson's site:

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/i ... &Itemid=60


http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/image ... edium).jpg

Thanks to all who think for themself!

[mathew]

These guys said they saw molten metal- let's look
for evidence that will back that claim up- shall we?

http://www.american-buddha.com/ae911truth.14a.jpg

This guy (NIST investigator) says no molten steel. so
we have conflicting 'official' claims. Again, let's look for evidence.

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/ther ... denial.png

This image has been shown to us as 'evidence' of molten steel.

http://drjudywood.com/articles/dirt/dir ... iremen.jpg

It turns out, this is the original- contrast has been adjusted above.
Would they be that close to a puddle of molten steel?

http://drjudywood.com/articles/dirt/dirtpics/5575.jpg

Fused coins- not molten, note the rust

http://americanhistory.si.edu/september ... 70_131.jpg

Meteorites side by side- Fused, not molten.
Also- we see a variety of materials- metal, concrete :

http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu34 ... y-side.jpg

Here is an image of actual molten metal- Anybody seen anything like this on 9/11?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PcI9awojNLQ/R ... 3650_z.jpg

Again, melted metal- kinda looks like lava flows, layers, over-lapping.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/arc ... 92432i.jpg
If anyone can find evidence of Molten Metal on 9/11 I would like to see it!

Link to page discussing this effect:
http://drjudywood.com/articles/dirt/dirt4.html

Another mechanism besides heating is at work here-

http://drjudywood.com/articles/dirt/dir ... ose0yl.jpg

Dr. Judy refers to this 'glowing' phenomenon as 'cheetos' -when an
unknown effect is referred to using conventional language, that is unscientific.
Hence a new term is used-

There is no indication that any of the fires in the World Trade Center buildings were hot enough to melt the steel framework. Jonathan Barnett, professor of fire protection engineering, has repeatedly reminded the public that steel--which has a melting point of 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit--may weaken and bend, but does not melt during an ordinary fire.

A 'wavy' beam- another mechanism at work!

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/media/photo ... 569115.jpg

Here is a youtube link-
Remember, people tend to try to
explain things by relating them to personal
experience, but listen closely to the language used-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcqf5tL887o


We all have heard that guys steel toe boots
were 'melting' within hours- why no burnt puppy paws then?

http://www.fema.gov/kids/images/911hero ... tc_285.jpg

[mathew]

More Disinformation being peddled by U.S. 'Officials' & Mainstream Media

We take a short time-out from the actual evidence of 9/11
to deal with the latest dis-info being put out on this subject

Here is the headline this morning on msn:
US officials: 9/11 mastermind buried at sea

Wow- That is interesting since Dick Cheney has
admitted that Osama had nothing to do with 911

"So we've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming." -D. Cheney

The FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorists" web page does not state that Bin Laden is wanted for the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0608-BinLaden.html
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists

Rex Tomb, the FBI's Chief of Investigative Publicity, is reported to have said, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."

"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the 'TV watcher' to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money." -British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook

Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan

Al Qaida translates as "the toilet"
http://theupliftingcrane.wordpress.com/ ... omment-760

My apologies for this political (non-scientific) interjection

[mathew]

William (Bill) Cooper predicted 9/11- and Osama Bin Laden's "involvement".

"Supposedly, a CNN reporter found Osama Bin Laden, took a tel-lie-vision camera crew with him, went in to Osama Bin Laden's hide-out, interviewed him and his top leadership, and he came out and told everybody- "within three weeks, Osama Bin Laden is going to attack the United States and Israel" ... Now don't you think that's kinda strange folks? You see, because the largest intelligence apparatus in the world, with the biggest budget in the history of the world, has been looking for Osama Bin Laden for years, and years, and years, and can't find him. [But] some dufus, jerk-off reporter, with a camera crew, waltzes right into his hide-out, and interviews him! And I'm telling you, be prepared for a major attack. But it won't be Osama Bin Laden. It will be those behind the new world order. I wonder what Osama's targets are supposed to be? And if they don't.. ya know, if this doesn't materialize in two or three weeks... it will eventually materialize... " -William Cooper 'The Hour of our Time Broadcast' 06-28-2001

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnNVEc2H65w

"Read everything, Listen to everybody, Don't trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research" -William Cooper 1943 - 2001

On November 5, 2001, world renowned author, lecturer, radio show host and ex-naval intelligence officer,
William Cooper, was killed under suspicious circumstances outside his home in Eager Arizona.


http://cdn.mqstatic.com/files/truthcont ... es/438.jpg
Rest in Peace Bill... You called it.

[StevenJay]

William (Bill) Cooper predicted 9/11- and Osama Bin Laden's "involvement".

[mathew]

Thank you for the subtle reminder StevenJay-
like i said-

My apologies for this political (non-scientific) interjection

It won't happen again.

[mathew]

Coast to Coast am- Where Did the Towers Go?
An Interview with Dr. Judy Wood 05-03-2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms1uUZX_g2I


Where Did the Towers Go?

Please listen and pass this most important information along!

[Julian Braggins]

I'm surprised with her credentials, that the good Dr did not mention the 'explosive failure of high strength materials', there are plenty of videos on the net if you look them up. Both micro and macro, when high strength materials fail under test the result is some or all of the material explodes in a cloud of dust with a sound to match.

It is no coincidence that the last hit tower failed first, it had twice as many floors above it, at ten thousand tons a floor a four hundred thousand pound hammer dropped ten feet or more to the floor below when the steel deformed as it reached critical temperature. Bolts and rivets shear, steels heats under extreme pressure, stresses are conducted all the way down with each impact.

Molten metal? the floor above one impact site contained the batteries for the backup power, lead acid. Core steel was clad in aluminum, the plane was aluminum. I witnessed a VW Combi Van go up in flames at a campsite, a gas bottle leaked. Result,the engine block was a puddle of melted aluminum, and the body was rusted the next morning. Not a thing salvageable. I replace the damper plate in a wood-stove every few years, it waves and deforms, and the slots in it enlarge to many times original size and the metal is knife edged around the holes, but the fire never gets hot enough to even melt aluminum foil.

Building seven was hit a glancing blow by the intact angled top floors of the nearest tower, at twenty thousand tons falling from eight hundred feed it would have popped many of the bolts in the frame, the fire from the diesel fuel in the backup generator tanks weakened the structure and the fire crews would have reported imminent failure when the firefighting operation was "pulled". Pulled was not a word used in my demolition days, maybe "push" for the initiating dynamo.

Red hot steel reacts with the nitrogen in the air to form carbon dioxide in the presence of water. Yes, transmutation, look up the work of Louis Kervran in that respect in investigating carbon monoxide poisoning of oxy -acetylene welding operators when there was no CO in the atmosphere they were breathing. This reaction could keep the fires going as long as there was red hot steel and water available.

I'm open to conspiracy theories as any, but haven't run out of logical explanations for this disaster yet.
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[mathew]

material explodes in a cloud of dust with a sound to match.

Really? Here is a comparison-
Controlled demolition of Landmark Tower similar to WTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4w_AG2f8Lw

9/11 WTC South Tower Collapses, West Street
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V8RT0C9Enk
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SKlPqgQPRg

I hear NOTHING comparable to high explosives, and no other
steel frame building has EVER collapsed of it's 'own accord'.
Jet fuel fires and office furniture just can't do it.

It is no coincidence that the last hit tower failed first, it had twice as many floors above it, at ten thousand tons a floor a four hundred thousand pound hammer dropped ten feet or more to the floor below when the steel deformed as it reached critical temperature. Bolts and rivets shear, steels heats under extreme pressure, stresses are conducted all the way down with each impact.

Sounds like a version of "pancake theory"
How many times can you clap your hands in ten seconds, Julian?
Can you do it 110 times? I can't I have tried.
http://drjudywood.com/articles/BBE/BilliardBalls.html

at ten thousand tons a floor

That would make the weight of each building
1,100,000 tons

The engine block was a puddle of melted aluminum

The buildings core structure and support trusses were made of STEEL not aluminum

Please Read-
http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/
http://www.civil.columbia.edu/ce4210/FE ... l/open.htm


Here is the 'Bathtub'...NOT damaged when EACH of the two 500,000 TON
Buildings "crashed down" on top of it- some say down into it. Yet earth
moving equipment moved in to clear the rubble in the days following had
to be moved with "extreme care."


This is so because the buildings 'Dustified' as posted prior.


The seismic data supports this conclusion



http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq/20 ... _sheet.htm

[Julian Braggins]

Hi Mathew,
Yes I was wrong about the weight, 5 hundred thousand tonnes per tower is a more accepted figure, 1.7 million tons of rubble was removed from the site, but this included other buildings.

However this hardly affects the points you make, the controlled demolition has a similar cloud of dust, but at the bottom of the building where the explosives were, the towers had the cloud of dust where the impact of the dropped floors started the chain reaction, parts of the outer steel skin hit the ground well before the bulk of the building reached the final heap so it was not quite as fast as free fall. Recent tests in a deep mine actually show that heavier objects of equal dimensions do fall a little faster

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/01 ... -0112.html

This site gives reasons for the erosion of steel, the lowering of its melting point and the hammer effect of raising hot steel to melting point, the impact welding effect. Sulfur was available from several sources including the batteries that I mentioned.
Molten metal was seen flowing in several shots but almost certainly not steel, it doesn’t flow like that, I have worked in a foundry.

The planes contained oxygen cylinders, that makes quite a difference to the temperature and nature of the fire, both aluminum and steel burn. Were the towers supplied with gas?, if so that would intensify the fires.

Once that first drop happened not just the floor below would be affected so the structural failure would accelerate.

Steel fails well below melting point depending on its loading, in the 800°C region. Much of the core steel was clad in Aluminum for cosmetic purposes; this was reacting with the steel and forming aluminum oxide and iron oxide, familiar? (thermite) Bolts that connected the core plates were being eroded because of the bi-metal reaction and were being drilled out and replaced, until objections to the noise by tenants stopped the operation, so some structural integrity was already compromised.

Assuming you watched test concrete samples disappearing in a cloud of dust, here is a quote of interest,
“Seger also cited a 1986 document from the American Society for Testing and Materials, that describes failure of pre-stressed concrete cylinder pipe as "spectacular bursts scattering shards of concrete and resulting in a hole reminiscent of a bomb crater."

I don’t see your point about “dustification”, I say that there is dustification because of the failure of high strength concrete under compressive load; you say it is because of explosives, we agree to differ. I have used explosives on isolated concrete objects and don’t recall great quantities of dust. I think the dust in the controlled demolition video was because of the pressure failure of the concrete from the weight of the building, the same as in the twin towers.

I know, I won’t alter your point of view , but at least an alternative is on record;)

[mathew]

Please CHECK THE EVIDENCE!

This Table is from:

World Trade Center Building Performance Study:
Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations
http://www.civil.columbia.edu/ce4210/FE ... l/open.htm

So the "impact" of the planes registered a .9 and .7 on the richter scale,
but the "collapse" of the buildings registered a 2.1 and 2.3- WEIRD!
Also- the "collapses" took all of 10 seconds and 8 seconds- WOW!
The "collapse" of building 7 registered a .6 on the richter scale! That's about equivalent to a JackHammer!

Here are two Quotes from the study-

In total, 10 major buildings experienced partial or total collapse, and approximately 30 million square feet of commercial office space was removed from service, of which 12 million belonged to the WTC Complex.

The Collapse of these structures is particularly significant in that, prior to these events, no protected steel-frame structure, the most common form of large commercial construction in the United States, has ever experienced a fire induced collapse. Thus, these events may highlight new building vulnerabilities, not previously believed to exist.

Dustification:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dueVm1UGvXo

[solrey]

Thanks for some perspective there Julian.

Mathew, 911 is not an appropriate subject for Thunderbolts Forum. This whole post reads more like a sales pitch for Wood's book than an attempt at any sort of discussion anyway. This thread is now locked for those reasons, after I address a few key points.

Conclusion from Solving The Great Steel Caper: DEW-Demolition Contrary Evidence

DEW-demolition proponents argue that the vast majority of the steel in the WTC towers was turned into dust. USGS, McGee, and EPA quantitatively measure and report that no significant amount of steel was dissociated into dust. A review of the photographic record clearly shows that no gas, dust, or aerosols shot upward during or after the collapse. An analysis of all reasonable dust transport mechanisms which might have lifted dust
vertically prove that air could not support a significant amount of weight of the towers during or immediately after collapse. Visibility measurements performed during the collapse of the South tower, thirty minutes after the collapse, and 36 hours after the collapse show the density of the dust which hung in the air was miniscule. UC Davis, EPA, and OSHA aerosol studies quantitatively prove that no significant amount of steel was aerosolized in the rubble pile during the days and months which followed the collapse. Iron in the steel was not transformed into another element. In short, there was no significant amount of steel dissociated at any time at Ground Zero.
The steel simply fell to the ground in large pieces during the collapse. More than 50% of the debris generated from the collapse of the towers was located in the 6 sublevels directly beneath the towers as revealed by photographs of debris removal and corroborated by damage assessment schematics produced by the Mueser Rutledge Consulting Engineers. The expected amount of steel removed from GZ is affirmed by the reported minimum of 350,000 tons of steel removed from GZ to landfills and recycle centers as well as the total number of truck loads (over 100,000) and barges (over 1900) which transported 1.6 million tons of material from GZ.

Here is some of that debris raining down on WTC3 which the DEW proponents claim was cut by an energy beam. Bullocks, it was smashed by massive chunks of debris.



The aftermath at WTC3. Note the perimeter columns stuck in the street like spears. Understand that the streets and all of ground level at the WTC complex was really the roof of the cavernous "bathtub" underneath.



Look at all the debris on and around WTC6. No DEW necessary to cause that damage to the building, it was massive debris falling from hundreds of feet.



There are plenty of images from the immediate aftermath that show piles of debris spread over an area much larger than the original footprints of the buildings.

The DEW proponents make much ado about ladder 3. Here's what happened to ladder 3:



Judy Wood uses the picture that was taken perhaps days later after the debris had been cleared and Ladder 3 had been moved to another location out of the way of clean up efforts. A lot of her pictures are from after cleanup was well under way and damaged vehicles had been cleared to new locations, which explains the pictures of burnt/damaged vehicles along the street many blocks away...they were towed there.

DEW isn't the only explanation for twisted and bent steel columns. Thousands of tons of steel columns falling from hundreds of feet would easily produce enough force to twist and bend structural steel, which is designed to be flexible kind of like a leaf spring on a truck. The following shows what a tornado can do to a steel I beam.



I just don't know what to say at this point to anyone who thinks the "spire" just turned to dust if they can't see it listing, falling over and shaking off the dust it was covered with in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaysznxC ... re=related

The "meteorite". What do you think would happen to a 4" reinforced concrete floor slab if it was hit on edge by something like a jet engine or landing gear assembly weighing several thousand pounds and traveling at over 500 mph? Something like this perhaps?



Yep, looks like sections of floor slab folded over on themselves. Also, reinforced concrete has rebar in it, that's why you see metal and concrete "fused" together. Of course they look fused, the concrete was poured over a grid of steel rebar.

The idea that surface rust on steel at a construction site is somehow an anomaly is just ridiculous. The light color of the rust indicates it's just a thin surface layer that could probably be wiped off with a rag. Of course steel left exposed to the elements, especially near water and/or the ocean as in the case of the WTC, is going to rapidly develop surface rust, perhaps even overnight if it's warm and humid.

The idea that the bathtub was not damaged, as might be expected, is also incorrect as noted by Tony Szamboti:

The bathtub was damaged to some degree. It needed to be quickly reinforced, as it had moved over three
feet in some areas. The falling debris was also not concentrated once it got to the bottom, since much of it
had been blown far outside of the footprint of the towers. There also would have been damping at this
point, due to loose material already on the ground, since the basements had been blown out, preventing
massive impulses.

I have rarely seen DEW proponents address the issues raised by critics, they mostly just repeat the same bogus claims over and over ad nauseum and attack the critics with attempted character assassination.

Here are some links with more details countering the claims of Wood and the DEW proponents:

Solving The Great Steel Caper: DEW-Demolition Contrary Evidence
Supplemental: DEW-Demolition Contrary Evidence
The Overwhelming Implausibility of Using Directed Energy Beams to Demolish the World Trade Center
Why the damage to WTC Bldgs. 3 and 6 does not support the beam weapon hypothesis and some correspondence with Dr. James Fetzer about it
Scientific Critique of Judy Wood’s Paper “The Star Wars Beam Weapon”

Read this and decide which group is on a dis/mis-information campaign.
A study of some issues raised in a paper by Wood & Reynolds

Regards