Recovered: Cymatics

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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by bboyer » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:36 pm

From this thread, Re: Mystery Behind Galaxy Shapes Solved
Postby dragons » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:31 pm
Now that the mystery behind galaxy shapes has been solved, you'll never guess how entire galaxies disappear. That is a real mystery!

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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by bboyer » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:26 pm

Interesting paper on the acoustic<>EM relationship of lithosphere-atmosphere-ionosphere. Relationship clearly not just "top > down" but also "down > top" as well, or top<>down. Cuts both ways. ;)
ACOUSTO-ELECTROMAGNETIC INVESTIGATIONS OF AN ACOUSTICAL
CHANNEL OF THE LITHOSPHERE-IONOSPHERE INTERACTION


INTRODUCTION

Already for a long time a number of the known scientists (M. Hayakawa, Yu. Galperin, N. Blaunstein, M. Parrot etc) have put forward a hypothesis about existence of the acoustic channel of transfer of energy in the system "lithosphere-atmosphere-ionosphere" in the process the high-energy phenomena in the lithosphere and during its preparation. This hypothesis is confirmed by a number of researches. But in these researches an acoustic energy of earthquakes or research explosions was mainly used. High-power acoustic sources of such types are the weakly operated and ecologically dangerous. This report is devoted to experimental researches of the acoustic channel of lithosphere-ionosphere interaction by way of modification of the ionosphere by action of the ground-based acoustic excitation and of detection and analysis of the artificial acousto-ionospheric disturbances caused by this acoustic radiator. On the basis of these results the acousto-electromagnetic method of monitoring of the ionosphere has been developed. The method isintended for revealing of the acousto-ionospheric disturbances caused by action of ground-level infrasound.
Full pdf here, http://www.ursi.org/Proceedings/ProcGA0 ... 01655).pdf
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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by GaryN » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:17 pm

In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller

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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by bboyer » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:27 pm

GaryN wrote:Cymatic weather patterns over Oz?

http://www.colinandrews.net/Cloud-Radar ... -0116.html
Hmm, interesting.

"Punch hole" clouds are one thing (here, for example, http://weathervortex.com/sky-holes.htm), but the radiative configuration of this one seems unique ... not to mention that red glow that apparently appeared in the center for a while. Could be we're just not within the Need To Know ... umm ... circle. ;)

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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by GaryN » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:27 pm

Call me Mr Conspiracy, but something strange is going on here. These images are either fake, an equiptment malfuncion, or someone is messing big time with the weather and blaming AGW for the messed up climatic events so they can tax and control us. :o

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http://www.colinandrews.net/HAARP-3.html
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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

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GaryN wrote:Call me Mr Conspiracy, but something strange is going on here. These images are either fake, an equiptment malfuncion, or someone is messing big time with the weather and blaming AGW for the messed up climatic events so they can tax and control us. :o

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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by GaryN » Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:57 pm

Mentioned on this thread a couple of years ago, the latest on the surface plasmon resonance looks quite exciting.

Scientists Turn Light Into Electrical Current Using a Golden Nanoscale System.
ScienceDaily (Feb. 14, 2010) — Material scientists at the Nano/Bio Interface Center of the University of Pennsylvania have demonstrated the transduction of optical radiation to electrical current in a molecular circuit. The system, an array of nano-sized molecules of gold, respond to electromagnetic waves by creating surface plasmons that induce and project electrical current across molecules, similar to that of photovoltaic solar cells.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 172537.htm

Looks like there may be many uses for this development. I, and others, may knock some scientists, but the foot-soldiers in the scientific world are producing some amazing results. The solar energy possibilities here excite me, as I think all our electrical needs can be met many times over by efficient harvesting of what energies the Sun provides. No need to pursue expensive, exotic, unstable and perhaps unsafe routes when there are simpler ways.

If, like me, you don't understand the mechanisms involved, Wiki has a page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmon_resonance
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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by GaryN » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:31 pm

A follow-up on the radar patterns over OZ. The weather authorities say it was due to 2 weather radars operating at the same time, from 2 locations, causing interference patterns to show on the returns. There is also a response from Tom Bearden, to an E-Mail that Colin Andrews had sent, asking for comments on the weather patterns.

http://www.colinandrews.net/TomBearden- ... ralia.html
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Unread post by WCSally » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:23 am

arc-us wrote:Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject:

Look also at this one from my 2nd, "Singing The Universe Electric" post in this same topic. It shows the the dynamic, flowing "X" pattern, particularly in the quadrantic part of the clip near the end. And the hourglass as well in the figure "8" infinity patterning.

EDIT: Forgot the link! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3csi-2Hrzhg

EDIT:051807:Notice the "zebra" wave background patterning towards the end of the clip. Similar to how the aetheric background sea might be envisioned?

Thanks much for catching the additional link to Peratt's images!

To anyone else interested in this topic, you really do need to see all the video clips if you haven't yet taken the time.
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I believe you have found the "tone" which is formative for Spiral Galaxies. :geek:

Is "this" the entire formative electrical current pattern ...??, and I bet if we had the space particles to look with .. we could find the outlying parts of our galaxy's current (electric) system!! (think in 3D not 2D)

By extrapolation, could all Chaldini Patterns be similar in nature? ... :o

It is in that "traversing zone" across the middle (z-pinch-?) area where the galaxy arms will form, but the build up at the opposite corners seems to be "necessary" ... that is a dandy demo!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Imagine it in 3D .. it would become representative of the Merkaba, (--- where matter is manifested).

And ... it shows the leftover pattern we see from the super nova in Orion, that center and two rings with the opposing hot spots (?) on them .. same difference, the hot spots are "like" the manifestation of the "build up zone" which happens before the crossing in the center. [[And they almost look like they want to start to isolate and spin on their own, except they do not, they stay in the coherent pattern, and cause the cross over bar area to form. I have seen similar on the bottom of the Julia Fractal, looking down the main 2D axis, but with a 3D program -Incindia.]]
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Count the arms on this puppy .. in sets of two, except at the horizontal axis .. where there are "3"!

Another:
Here is perhaps the X form with the constrained center .. [notice the double layers?] Xenodream
http://gateman45.deviantart.com/art/palm-101246781
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Bravo! .. Now I will go look at at the rest of them.

I have a large intention to obtain this little gadget, put it in a very tall glass cylinder and immerse the cylinder into a big tank (spherical if possible) of glycerin (or some other plasma-esque substance) mixed with very small glitter (or similar) ... and turn it on, and let it run ... and see what these things look like in 3D ....

If someone else gets this done, I would like to see the video's please!!
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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by WCSally » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:31 am

arc-us wrote:
GaryN wrote:Cymatic weather patterns over Oz?

http://www.colinandrews.net/Cloud-Radar ... -0116.html
Hmm, interesting.

"Punch hole" clouds are one thing (here, for example, http://weathervortex.com/sky-holes.htm), but the radiative configuration of this one seems unique ... not to mention that red glow that apparently appeared in the center for a while. Could be we're just not within the Need To Know ... umm ... circle. ;)

"I make no hypothesis." [---][/---]Sir Isaac Newton :lol:
Someone needs to correlate all these with Tectonic Plate maps!!

Note also that the ice broke up ... of course it is not sea level rise until it melts. --but it did not melt in rings ... :(

Greenland's Glacier is clipping along at 5 feet a day ... but any glacier with melt water under it, if it broke lose upstream might calve big time which equals Tsunami ... in the case of Greenland, London and NY are most at risk.
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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by webolife » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:30 pm

This brings back to mind the whole area of electrophonics, the nearly instantaneous induction of sound in nearby vibrating materials by radio signals produced by a distant meteor/fireball's descent/discharging in the atmosphere.
I first experienced this as a boy out camping when I observed a large fireball travelling nearly horizontally rather at about a 30 deg angle to the horizon, which simultaneously hissed. I've heard this phenomenon once or twice [I say "or twice", because one of these incidents was less distinct...] more recently, during Perseid meteor showers.
I'm not a proponent of sound = EM, but there is a clear relationship between sound and electrostatics within a particular medium, as also there is this similar relation between ES and waves of any type. (disclaimer: Most frequent readers here will recognize that I don't believe in light as waves.)
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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by GaryN » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:19 pm

The hiss has also been 'heard' in association with aurora, so it seems that ionisation, or maybe de-ionisation is producing r/f emissions at a frequency that we are not actually hearing, but detecting neurally somehow. I don't know what frequencies and strengths might do that, but radio hams might have an idea, they like to reflect their signals off meteor trails.
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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:43 am

I've just come across this article from New Scientist:
Crystals + sound + water = clean hydrogen fuel
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... -fuel.html
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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by GaryN » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:19 pm

I like it. Adds support to one of my previous mad ideas! I see the link I posted does not go to the intended site though.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... fd2#p18673
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Re: Recovered: Cymatics

Unread post by Grey Cloud » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:01 pm

GaryN wrote:I like it. Adds support to one of my previous mad ideas! I see the link I posted does not go to the intended site though.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... fd2#p18673
Hi Gary,
Glad you liked it. Pity your original link no longer works as it sounded intriguing. Any chance you can track it down or shed any more light on it?
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