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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?

Post by ElecGeekMom » Mon May 17, 2010 7:44 am

There was a piece on "60 Minutes" last night that featured Mike Williams, who was present on the oil rig when it exploded. His story includes an explanation that a rubber annular in the BOP was damaged when the BP folks insisted on speeding up the drilling operation, coupled with a human error in the form of someone accidentally moving a joystick that caused the drill to raise 15 feet while the annular was being tested in its closed position.

When he saw pieces of rubber coming up the hole and asked about it, he was told not to worry. :roll:

BTW, it's interesting to note that there were BP bigwigs present on the platform when it exploded. They were there to present a safety award to the crew. :oops:

It looks like several videos have been posted on Youtube that show this interview. Just go to Youtube and look for "60 minutes interview + Mike Williams".

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Post by junglelord » Mon May 17, 2010 8:06 am

A terrible event, reminds me of the shuttle disaster, a simple rubber o ring failure, here we have a rubber annular failure. Possibly in both instances upper managements decision making process was flawed, that and they tend to disregard red flags and signifcant data streams, that request them to stop pushing and start helping...but we know how upper managment works.

Like Jon Stewart said on the Daily Show, it is like they spent all their brains on drilling and left none for containment...imagine if NASA did that?

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Post by GaryN » Mon May 17, 2010 11:01 pm

I knew oil was released naturally, from seeps, but didn't realise how much. Of course we should not allow that to be used as an excuse by oil companies cutting corners, but maybe it's not the end of the world, after all.
Interestingly enough, oil spills in the Gulf of Mexico are not uncommon. Natural oil spills in the form of oil seeps release about double the volume dumped by the Exxon Valdez every year into the Gulf – over 22 million gallons per year. The sea life in and around the Gulf of Mexico use these hydrocarbons as fertilizer for the bacterial life at the bottom of the food chain and support some of the most productive marine ecosystems around this continent. (Hat tip to Dr. Jack Wheeler’s Half Full Report 5/07/10).
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Post by WCSally » Tue May 18, 2010 12:58 am

These from Facebook :D ... no one said the EQ might have been an attempt to make a fused dome, however ... no one said it, I just wonder if anyone thought it?

https://aapg.org/explorer/2006/05may/gom_earthquake.cfm
Reed, this time reflecting himself, has a more technical explanation.

“Simply stated, the linear Cretaceous shelf edge was the separation point of the Gulf of Mexico plate from North American plate,” he said.

According to Reed, this movement started near the end of the Early Cretaceous and, to date, the plate has moved south. The exterior salt basin was formed in the ever-widening gap between these plates by allochthonous salt pressure (lots on this in Google about the Gulf!!) forced from under the moving plate into the gap.

The trailing edge of this south moving plate is undergoing tensional forces accompanied by outward and upward moving salt into the basin, Reed explained, which creates fractures (faults) along the trailing edge of the plate and these fracture lines are filled with the highly pressurized salt.

This movement, in turn, separates fault blocks from the moving plate, which are then suspended in the ever-expanding exterior basin salt mass. This action, or something very similar, is the source of 11 earthquakes that have struck the northern Gulf, according to Reed. Seven of these quakes are located along the trailing edge of the south moving plate.

“This action, or something very similar, is the source of the earthquakes that occur in the northern Gulf,” he said.

Moreover, for Reed the quake may help prove the existence of plate movement, and could be a new piece of evidence for a tectonically active Gulf.

“This MS=5.2 quake alone does not prove the Gulf is active,” he admits, “but when it is placed in line with other evidence, it’s a major nail supporting the active Gulf structure.”

Reed, who is retired and admits he is not an expert on earthquakes, has theorized for years there was an active tectonic plate in the region that, among other things, is connected to the New Madrid seismic center. This active seismic center is located on a possible tensional continental spreading fault zone that parallels the Appalachians and connects with the St. Lawrence seismic center, located in Canada (see November 2002 EXPLORER).

https://aapg.org/explorer/2002/11nov/rift_zone.cfm
Triple Threat?

The Cretaceous Shelf Edge along with the Suwannee Strait and the West Florida Escarpment, according to Reed, appear to be part of a triple juncture centered on the DeSoto Canyon High.

"The DeSoto Canyon High is one of the largest and most significant structures found in the Gulf," he said, measuring 137 miles by 60 miles, with over 7,000 feet of structural relief at the top of the Paleozoic.

"The Cretaceous Shelf Edge, the Suwannee Strait and the West Florida Escarpment all traverse different areas of the Gulf," he said, "but they each appear to have evolved during the same general time period and they all radiate from the central DeSoto Canyon High. This alignment would be similar to triple junctures found throughout the world."

The Suwannee Strait is a shallow Upper Cretaceous depression that extends across southern Georgia and northwestern Florida for over 200 miles. Reed said several theories have been proposed to explain the cause of the feature, but as one geologist indicated it has been easier to infer the existence of the strait than to account for it.

According to Reed, a northeastward linear projection of the Suwannee Strait would extend the feature to the earthquake cluster zone 20 miles inland from Charleston, South Carolina.

The West Florida Escarpment, the third element of the DeSoto Canyon triple juncture, has been described as a simple carbonate bank build-up. While Reed acknowledged that is true, age dating of samples collected during deepwater dredging along the escarpment indicates the feature is comprised of peritidal and lagoonal limestones with back-reef faunal assemblages deposited under restricted, low-energy conditions.

"If the steep slope face is made up of back reef material, then the question arises of where the fore-reef and the reef complex are located," he said. "It would be unlikely that equal erosion occurred over the entire escarpment, removing only the fore-reef and reef complex and leaving the back-reef.

"It would appear that some other method," he added, "such as transform shear motion, was responsible for removal of the main part of the reef complex."
Asked whether we will see a significant quake along New Madrid, he says, “It’s not a matter of if, but when.”

He is the first to admit, though, that his theory is in stark contrast to others -- and still something of a novelty.

“I developed the active tectonic theory and then realized that this theory would be opposite from the passive theory, and, therefore, I would have an uphill battle trying to prove it,” he said.

“The passive theory (no tectonic activity) has been accepted in our geological community for decades,” he said, “and very few earth scientists would like to change their position. I know I wouldn’t.”
The 60 Minutes tac:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id= ... photovideo

It is nice that some folks notice this stuff!! :geek:
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Post by WCSally » Tue May 18, 2010 1:54 am

Ah digging has brought a few more ideas about the area to light (these in those links I just posted).
Regarding one of the most accepted theories, that updip sedimentary loading moved the salt masses in the Gulf seaward: Where is the original salt basin?

"If this salt mass movement was reversed by paleo-reconstruction and moved back to the original salt deposition basin, which would be directly south of the Cretaceous Shelf Edge, the original salt thickness would have to be in a six-figure range to accommodate this huge salt mass," he said. "It would dwarf the Himalayas."

Regarding salt distribution and the sub-horizontal, allochthonous salt flow theory: Wouldn't the salt have to be vented to an open, deepwater environment where it would, very questionably, remain unprotected for several geologic stages until covered by sediments of a later period?

"This theory doesn't take into consideration the role of the Interior basin and the Cretaceous Shelf Edge," he said, which separates the Interior and Exterior salt basins and is described in most literature as a simple Lower Cretaceous carbonate bank build-up.

"If this is true, why does a much younger Cretaceous feature divide the lower Jurassic salt basin into two parts?

"Why is there a strong magnetic response along the length of the feature?

"Why has there been igneous intrusives found along the shelf edge?"
There is a HUGE salt mine up north of this, I mean it is amazingly deep ... and the US used to use it for storage of very special items (maybe they still do) because it is so inaccessible. I wonder what these huge salt sinks are related to .. how they formed ... and really ... most really .. why are they magnetically alive?
"Why is there a strong magnetic response along the length of the feature?"
Soooo .... one more quote, because I can't resist, and for those who don't want to go to the pages (aww, not!)
So Reed conducted a study using data from the U.S. Geological Survey's National Earthquake Information Center and the USGS map "Earthquakes in the Conterminous United States." He only studied earthquakes measuring at least magnitude 5, and found that while most of the earthquake centers are random with no alignment, there is a well-defined earthquake trend extending northeastward from the New Madrid seismic zone across the United States to Canada, where it joins with the St. Lawrence River seismic zone.

Within the boundaries of this earthquake alignment there are:

* Sixty-one seismic points that have a magnitude of 5 and greater.
* Several large earthquakes dating to the early 1800s, all measuring over magnitude 8, all occurring within a couple of months of each other, all centered in a northeast trending line.
* The two 5+ earthquakes that occurred earlier this year in northern New York state and southern Indiana.

"There is definitely some form of movement occurring along this trend," Reed said, "and it appears to be active today."

As he continued that trend south of New Madrid he found that it was in line with the Monroe Uplift.

"Suddenly I could see that this area had doming much like I had seen at the Desoto Canyon in the Gulf," he said. "This entire zone through the United States is suffering some type of tectonic activity that I believe is tied to the deeply buried tectonics in the Gulf of Mexico."
I used to dislike the BushincBrother who did not want to drill in the Gulf, --- it would spoil his shoreline and tourist industry! ... But maybe the Oil family son knew lots more than I suspected until now!
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Post by GaryN » Tue May 18, 2010 10:07 am

Looks like nature likes oil volcanoes, mountains of asphalt! Worldwide there could be billions of gallons oozing out! No worries then, in the long term.
It was an amazing experience flying along in Alvin on this relatively unremarkable seafloor, and all of a sudden, this black wall, this mountain, is staring you in the face. There were all types of life forms living on this mountain. It was essentially an oasis. Many life forms like something hard to clamp onto. It was almost like an artificial reef, except it was an asphalt reef.
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Post by ElecGeekMom » Wed May 19, 2010 7:48 am

Now that they're talking about those undersea asphalt mountains, it makes me wonder what might be required to make the new, big leak solidify and/or slow down enough to stop. I guess you have to make the volatile compounds in the oil go away faster?

In some of the reading I've done about abiotic oil, they say that coal deposits originally were oil seeps.

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Post by WCSally » Thu May 20, 2010 11:16 pm

I had the oddest thought the other day ... what if this spill (and the clean up chemicals) actually end up ridding the Gulf of the Red Tide Alga Pfeisteria Pisicida? ...

This monstrous alga is an impending threat of biblical proportions, and if this kills it, it would be happy days (and no one would likely say anything and it would all be seen from the disaster perspective). .... On the other hand, if it makes it worse .. Very, VERY BAD!!
...
And someone should check, because if it is making it worse -- or will make it worse; we want to jump on BP and make 'em fix it yesterday!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfiesteria_piscicida

This stuff is in the Carolina Estuary waters and up the rivers as far as the Great Lakes (less concentrated there).

It is basically rabies for people if it gets in your nervous system (neuro-toxin wielding alga) --

But infection through pork (Carolinas are big, big Hog producers and this could give us a shape changing, adaptive pathogen which would find humans very compatible.) could bring on a host of ailments which would possibly take time to run down. People who study it have become infected.

Twenty four cases of Neuropathology are confirmed -- from people who work the brain tables in the Eastern Pork Plants. Some completely out of it, some only handicapped. (Harvard's Pro Med Mail) .. This Alga loves lipids ... This stuff has some 20+ forms, and the cyst can only be killed by an autoclave. If it freaks out, it turns into a cyst and goes dormant in the bottom sediments. On the Neuse River (worst) they try to stick it to the bottom by spraying clay into the water. On the Neuse, people can be over come and pass out simply from breathing the fumes from a bloom, and getting the water on you ... is very bad news.

They have a special lab in the Carolinas ... someone from there should assess the risk to the Gulf from the spill ... or the possibility of the spill clean up chemicals helping to rid the gulf of the pathogenic alga.
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?

Post by lizzie » Fri May 21, 2010 3:53 pm

City of London SCRAP merchants used nano-thermite to sabotage BP Deepwater Horizon rig to frame them in order to commit massive insurance fraud. They used nano-thermite on 911 to pulverise the WTC.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... 271#p35673

http://www.abeldanger.net/2010/05/olymp ... ne_14.html
Abel Danger Global Operations Director clippered on Number 10 Loan-to-Own in Coalition of Serious Fraud identifies a $64 trillion pool extorted by HSBC-Rothschild agents from shareholders in companies such as BP. The BP directors were framed after Deepwater Horizon rig was sabotaged with nano-thermite to melt steel and destroy evidence of insurance frauds.

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Post by seasmith » Fri May 21, 2010 6:04 pm

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The habitats found on the sea floor in the modern Gulf of Mexico are the result of millions of years of geologic change, which continues today. The processes responsible can be divided into two groups: those that make the Gulf deeper, and those that make it shallower. The main deepening happened during the Jurassic Period when the granite core of the North American tectonic plate began to separate from South America and Africa over 100 million years ago; this began the formation of the Gulf of Mexico.
A similar process is happening in the Red Sea today, as Africa pulls away from the Arabian Peninsula. The tearing apart of plates does not make an ocean right away. Usually, the big valleys first start to fill as salt deposits form, like those found in the Dead Sea in Israel and Jordan, or the Salton Sea in California. These deposits are called the Louann Salt in the area of the Gulf of Mexico. As the big crack at the bottom of North America widened, the ocean filled the big valley permanently, new ocean crust began to form, sediment began washing into the widening hole from the Mississippi, and other rivers and reefs grew along the shore, burying a width of more than 500 km of salt and the edges of the new crust.
Over millions of years, plumes of the light salt began to float up through the heavier sediment that covered it, like the colored liquid in a lava lamp. As the salt made it very close to the surface, sometimes having traveled through more than 10 km of rock and sediment, it pushed up the sea floor above it to form a mound or dome. After the uppermost salt came in contact with seawater it started to dissolve, sometimes leaving behind a depression with curved cracks around the edges, or cracks radiating out from the center. These cracks are called faults, and if both types are present, a pattern like a spider web is formed. The faults cause certain parts of the sea floor above the salt dome to stick up higher than others.
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Post by WCSally » Fri May 21, 2010 10:16 pm

They have a special lab in the Carolinas ... someone from there should assess the risk to the Gulf from the spill ... or the possibility of the spill clean up chemicals helping to rid the gulf of the pathogenic alga OR the possibility that the Red Tide Alga might thrive in a population of damaged and suffering flora and fauna!
I am remiss ... I should not be suggesting the use of something like a nuclear bomb to remove TB from a population of beings. ... The hammer nor cudgel are not a choice over the surgical precision of the ethnologist and the molecular microbiologist (if they had their house in order, and could assist). Perhaps we should ask Venter .. perhaps they could make a variant of Synthia to eat up Pfeisteria Pisicida? Maybe there could be a Synthia which loved crude and made manna and O2 out of it?
The research published today was made possible by previous breakthroughs at JCVI. In 2007 the team published results from the transplantation of the native M. mycoides genome into the M. capricolum cell which resulted in the M. capricolum cell being transformed into M. mycoides. This work established the notion that DNA is the software of life and that it is the DNA that dictates the cell phenotype.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/161385.php
The creation of the new life form, which has been nicknamed 'Synthia', paves the way for customized bugs that could revolutionize health-care and fuel production, according to its maker.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... anity.html

Now if we can skip the I am Legend pieces of the scenario .. we may be OK.

Thermite is exceptionally handy stuff, and seemingly a preferred agent .. is this tendency not traceable?
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Postby junglelord » Mon May 17, 2010 9:06 am

Like Jon Stewart said on the Daily Show, it is like they spent all their brains on drilling and left none for containment ... imagine if NASA did that?
Well, NASA does far better (because they really care!!), but I fear for their work most of the time .. because I have a slightly different view:

We leaped into space like maniacs .. we knew so little, we still know so little of it all ... (I hope you can pardon me in advance for my opinion), -- we are so eager, but so lacking in knowledge -- there is so much more we need to know.

We have not plumbed the complexity of our own biology, yet we temp fate in a very hostile environment with only suits and tin shells and good will to the Universe.

Our luck is astonishing, and perhaps we need every bit of it. I would not go to space in anything smaller than our moon! Yet we went to the moon, not even knowing of faster than light particles, or gamma bursts, or a fist full of other things .. all rather deadly to our fragile forms.

When we have fully grasped the elegance of the 3,6, 9 and the Merkaba & Torus we can make our own ships in the vacuum, form them to our specs (moon size at least) and then fit them with the apropos propulsion units -- a la LaViolette or more advanced.
Hopefully we also will bend EM to our will, and map the force fields of the stars so we can surf them and save on fuel. (.. and see issues which will arise among those forces!!)

I guess we have had blessed baby steps .. and I hope we learned every scrap of knowledge this afforded us, but really .. when you look at it ...it is so scary!! I guess I don't have any cowboy genes!!
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Post by lizzie » Sat May 22, 2010 12:37 pm

He who owns the patented technology to destroy (no matter what the scale) must surely own the patented technology to repair; in that way the scam is all part of a “closed loop” system – money in/money out; they even have their supply chain to carry out the entire operation from start (the total destruction and removal of all material evidence including people) to finish (restoration/repair contracts) and all financed and run through massive stock frauds on Wall Street and elsewhere. The only people with access to the men, material and money to stage such sophisticated global operations could be none other than members of an elite international crime syndicate that owns the patents to these black budget technologies. These men and women would be deeply embeded in the uppermost levels (both presidential and parliamentary) of the respective governments of the host countries out of which they operate; and they can operate "transnationally".

Can Nanotechnology Help with the Oil Spill in the Gulf? Likewise can nanotechnology be used (remotely) to cause oil rigs to explode?
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... =15#p36011

Abel Danger Global Operations Director clippered on Number 10 Loan-to-Own in Coalition of Serious Fraud identifies a $64 trillion pool extorted by HSBC-Rothschild agents from shareholders in companies such as BP. The BP directors were framed after Deepwater Horizon rig was sabotaged with nano-thermite to melt steel and destroy evidence of insurance frauds.
Nano-Thermite News
http://nanothermite.com/
Source: San Francisco Bay Area Independent Media Center (California) - Apr 29, 2009

As an architect myself I am very impressed and amazed that this group has managed to secure a booth at the national AIA Convention. This historic event, along with the recent publication of the paper, Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe, are turning points for the exponential spread of the evidence that the World Trade Center Towers were destroyed by demolition. Why would the American Institute of Architects allow a group to present a case for demolition of the WTC at their National Convention if they didn't find it reasonable? If you have doubts, take a closer look, because a lot of architects will be looking this weekend
Can Nanotechnology Help with the Oil Spill in the Gulf?
http://spectrum.ieee.org/nanoclast/semi ... n-the-gulf
I guess I wasn’t the only person to think this as the blog Nanopatents and Innovations pulled out at least four patents and/or innovations in nanomaterials that address the cleanup or remediation of oil spills.

Now as anyone who is familiar with how technologies are developed knows it is a far cry from securing a patent to getting it done in the real world.
Nano Patents and Innovations
http://nanopatentsandinnovations.blogspot.com/

Mind Over Matter
http://www.iida.org/content.cfm/mind-over-matter
Nanotechnology, the science of manipulating matter at a molecular level, is a revolution in the making. It already has improved stain resistance in textiles and the insulation properties of glass, and the implications for architects and interior designers are enormous as new and enhanced materials come on stream.

In 1993, Charles L. Owen led a team of researchers in an early, award-winning project. In the project's report, "Nanoplastics: A Home System," Owen, Distinguished Professor Emeritus of the Institute of Design at the Illinois Institute of Technology, writes, "This radical new technology dramatically changes the way materials and products will be produced. It also mandates sweeping rethinking of how products will be designed and used. The ability for materials and products to intelligently alter form, texture, color and myriad other characteristics only hints at what nanotechnology portends."
The Sonic Laser
http://thefutureofthings.com/news/7440/ ... laser.html
The Saser uses ultra-high frequency sound waves, in a similar manner to the way laser uses light waves. The traditional Light Amplification by the Stimulated Emission of Radiation (LASER) uses packets of electromagnetic vibrations called ‘photons’. The result is a continuous photon beam, created via stimulating electrons with an external power source; the release of energy (occurring as the electrons collide) is made in a highly reflective optical cavity. The coherent and controllable shining beam of laser light is due to the photons’ homogenous frequency and rate of oscillation.

Previous researches have tried to develop sound-emitting devices, but this is the first time a device emits sound waves in the terahertz frequency range. As for the beam itself, it consists of coherent acoustic waves, produced at nanometer wavelengths. The scientific and technological applications vary; one example of the Saser’s potential is the sonogram, a device that can scan for defects in nanometer scale objects like micro-electric circuits.

TFOT has previously covered a research that aims to model the sound of water, conducted by scientists at Cornell University in Ithaca, as well as the development of flexible, transparent nanotube-based loudspeakers at Tsinghua University and Beijing University. Other related TFOT stories include the Laser ‘Knife’, a device that fits to the front of a laser source and tames it into usable beams that are able to travel long distances, and the world’s first weapons-grade electronic laser, which is being developed by Northrop Grumman.
5 Metamaterials That Make Matter Invisible, Silent or Blindingly Fast
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... ws/4328772
Step aside, nanotechnology, the buzzword for today’s material scientist is “metamaterials.” These substances are tiny engineered structures from existing composite that are used to manipulate light, sound and radiowaves.
Nanotechnology-Enabled Sensors: Possibilities, Realities, and Applications
http://www.sensorsmag.com/sensors/chemi ... and-a-1074
Operating on the scale of atoms and molecules, emerging nanotechnologies promise dramatic changes in sensor designs and capabilities.

If you make or use sensors, your business will likely feel the impact of current and future developments in nanotechnology, a very promising new branch of small-scale technology named for the unit of measure at which it operates: the nanometer, or 0.001 micron. Nanotechnology enables us to create functional materials, devices, and systems by controlling matter at the atomic and molecular scales, and to exploit novel properties and phenomena. Consider that most chemical and biological sensors, as well as many physical sensors, depend on interactions occurring at these levels and you'll get an idea of the effect nanotechnology will have on the sensor world.
Applications of Nanotechnology in Oil and Gas E&P
http://www.spe.org/spe-app/spe/jpt/2006 ... ations.htm
Breakthroughs in nanotechnology open up the possibility of moving beyond the current alternatives for energy supply by introducing technologies that are more efficient and environmentally sound. Nanotechnology is characterized by collaboration among diverse disciplines, making it inherently innovative and more precise than other technologies. Such a technology may be the cornerstone of any future energy technology that offers the greatest potential for innovative solutions.

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Post by WCSally » Sat May 22, 2010 4:37 pm

Awesome Lizzy, thanks!
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Post by GaryN » Mon May 24, 2010 11:31 am

Spill worsening according to this site, and the seafloor has collapsed. Oil venting not only from the damaged BOP, but from other sources. It is suspected the casing at an anulus, 300 ft down, has been eroded from the high pressure abrasive action, and oils is finding other routes to the seabed surface. Will Obama bring in the Nukes?

http://monkeyfister.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... below.html
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