BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
You're right GaryN, collapse is the wrong word. Blowing it's top off would be more accurate.
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
I spent about 10 hours spamming Gulf Oil Spill Threads on ATS with this information!!
Finally there was a post about a county taking matters into their own hands, and they got the information in triplicate!
If they stop with the Corexit .. and just collect the oil ---- and what they don't collect they treat with this stuff (... because there is a LOT of OIL running loose in the gulf ... two other wells and two big plumes of seeming unknown origin!! These bugs are FAST!)
Microbe eats hydrocarbons and leaves shrimp food behind! SAFE! ---already tested in the gulf!!
They are warehoused in quantity and I spoke to someone who has used them .. he said they were very good at oil removal!
Regular fire equipment to put them out, and they die when the food source is gone!! Water is left clean and odor free. Much more cost effective!!
(They can be applied with flour sifters as well, in small areas.)
Already tested in the Gulf with excellent results --- supposed to be a first responder item ... A professional clean up fellow who uses it says: "It is very good!!"
Here is the video, it has ALL THE FACTS ...
Gulf Oil Spill .... Solution in just 6 weeks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VfypUzx ... t]:mrgreen:[/highlight]
Finally there was a post about a county taking matters into their own hands, and they got the information in triplicate!
If they stop with the Corexit .. and just collect the oil ---- and what they don't collect they treat with this stuff (... because there is a LOT of OIL running loose in the gulf ... two other wells and two big plumes of seeming unknown origin!! These bugs are FAST!)
Microbe eats hydrocarbons and leaves shrimp food behind! SAFE! ---already tested in the gulf!!
They are warehoused in quantity and I spoke to someone who has used them .. he said they were very good at oil removal!
Regular fire equipment to put them out, and they die when the food source is gone!! Water is left clean and odor free. Much more cost effective!!
(They can be applied with flour sifters as well, in small areas.)
Already tested in the Gulf with excellent results --- supposed to be a first responder item ... A professional clean up fellow who uses it says: "It is very good!!"
Here is the video, it has ALL THE FACTS ...
Gulf Oil Spill .... Solution in just 6 weeks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VfypUzx ... t]:mrgreen:[/highlight]
Hypothesis:
Until our understanding is suffiently comprehensive, we are at risk.
Those not suffiently careful are also at risk.
Breath is the Courser and Mind is the Rider. -- Zoroaster
Until our understanding is suffiently comprehensive, we are at risk.
Those not suffiently careful are also at risk.
Breath is the Courser and Mind is the Rider. -- Zoroaster
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
One Hundred Million gallons of Corexit now ruining the GULF ....
Any news on the Bubble under the well head?
Any news on the river of liquid methane the research boat found?
Oh... Research boat ... GREAT BLOG!!
http://gulfblog.uga.edu/
If the methane or the crude doesn't kill the life there, the Corexit will try!
Prince William Sound has never recovered.
People who worked Exxon Valdez have never recovered (not unlike 9-11)
Could The UN make this stuff Illegal -- world wide?
Does the UN have the clout to step up on global climate and environment matters?
Should it be empowered to do so?
Would it be a good thing ... could they move on stuff and really make a difference?
(We could offer to give them some Marines...Like the fellows in Orange at the Vatican!)
Any news on the Bubble under the well head?
Any news on the oil out in the Atlantic proper? ...it is there!!
Any news on the river of liquid methane the research boat found?
Those two HUGE plumes?
Oh... Research boat ... GREAT BLOG!!
http://gulfblog.uga.edu/
Any news on the Bubble under the well head?
Any news on the river of liquid methane the research boat found?
Oh... Research boat ... GREAT BLOG!!
http://gulfblog.uga.edu/
If the methane or the crude doesn't kill the life there, the Corexit will try!
Prince William Sound has never recovered.
People who worked Exxon Valdez have never recovered (not unlike 9-11)
Could The UN make this stuff Illegal -- world wide?
Does the UN have the clout to step up on global climate and environment matters?
Should it be empowered to do so?
Would it be a good thing ... could they move on stuff and really make a difference?
(We could offer to give them some Marines...Like the fellows in Orange at the Vatican!)
Any news on the Bubble under the well head?
Any news on the oil out in the Atlantic proper? ...it is there!!
Any news on the river of liquid methane the research boat found?
Those two HUGE plumes?
Oh... Research boat ... GREAT BLOG!!
http://gulfblog.uga.edu/
Hypothesis:
Until our understanding is suffiently comprehensive, we are at risk.
Those not suffiently careful are also at risk.
Breath is the Courser and Mind is the Rider. -- Zoroaster
Until our understanding is suffiently comprehensive, we are at risk.
Those not suffiently careful are also at risk.
Breath is the Courser and Mind is the Rider. -- Zoroaster
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Re: BP oil spill -- A fix for the Gulf and the Atlantic
It now looks like this hole in the sea is going to spew crude+ for a long time ... which lets the brain dead continue with abysmal efforts like poisoning everything worse and worse ... so I posted a thread on the conspiracy board!
Here it is ... mmmm maybe it will be taken seriously?
Choose HEALTH over Wealth .. turn the Microbes loose!!
IF ... this well is going to spew crude+ for months and months .. WHY ... do they not just figure they are going to take a $$--hit on the oil anyway ... and let the microbes loose?
Overall ...
this will save the ecology, save the Gulf, save the whole shooting match
... except the escaping oil ...
[Maybe Mother nature would look kindly upon us and batten down the bubble? -- see below .. ]
Those bugs cannot go down hole against 100,000 PSI ... so they will just eat the floating oil, and then die. They leave shrimp food in their wake, it could jump-start the recovery ...
Wow!! Just Imagine, clean water, clean air, and life coming back!!
WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT?
-- CATCHING "PART" OF THE OIL .. OR SAVING THE ECOSYSTEM OF THE GULF? ~*~ AND THE ATLANTIC COAST?
The waters around the Exxon Valdez have never recovered!!
All those people doing clean up would not be doing clean up and would not be getting really ill ... Central Nervous System attack -- Hemolysis -- Benzene & DNA damage ... does anyone listen?
What about all the ships?
If there is a Bubble Event ... and they go down with all hands .. who is going to say the Mass for that one? ... ...
I really hope the surveillance buoys are up and running!!
I hope they are tied to the ships, as well as some very good tremor detectors. [NOAA? NASA? Navy?]
They deploy out the back of a plane, how hard is that?
How fast can the ships detach and run for safety ... fast enough? ... or are they dead anyway?
What a terrible situation!!
...
Take the people out of harms way!! Spray on the microbes!!
--- and lets have "at least a clean Gulf" while they try to bring in the other 2 "golden" wells. [Those extra plumes and those other two leaking wells will need separate treatment.]
-- and forget the nuke! If they made a hole in the Earth for 200,000 barrels of microbe fertilizer to come out of ... (their error) ...
W-E-L-L; -- BS will just have a new meaning attached to it! ... BPBS ... = a new concept in "BAD"!
EVEN THE IDEA OF A NUKE IS BOGUS! --IN THIS SITUATION~!!
Consider also ... if the seeps in the formation are not very pressurized and they actually do connect to "The Bubble", the microbes might defuse that bubble by taking out the Crude (which is what makes the methane in the first place). At least without any oil in it, it is less pressurized ... it might even de-bubble!! -- or so one might hope!!
Just saying ... lets choose healthy over wealthy this time ... please?!!
Here is the link, so you don't have to drag anyone here ..
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread585043/pg1
Here it is ... mmmm maybe it will be taken seriously?
Choose HEALTH over Wealth .. turn the Microbes loose!!
IF ... this well is going to spew crude+ for months and months .. WHY ... do they not just figure they are going to take a $$--hit on the oil anyway ... and let the microbes loose?
Overall ...
this will save the ecology, save the Gulf, save the whole shooting match
... except the escaping oil ...
[Maybe Mother nature would look kindly upon us and batten down the bubble? -- see below .. ]
Those bugs cannot go down hole against 100,000 PSI ... so they will just eat the floating oil, and then die. They leave shrimp food in their wake, it could jump-start the recovery ...
Wow!! Just Imagine, clean water, clean air, and life coming back!!
WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT?
-- CATCHING "PART" OF THE OIL .. OR SAVING THE ECOSYSTEM OF THE GULF? ~*~ AND THE ATLANTIC COAST?
The waters around the Exxon Valdez have never recovered!!
All those people doing clean up would not be doing clean up and would not be getting really ill ... Central Nervous System attack -- Hemolysis -- Benzene & DNA damage ... does anyone listen?
What about all the ships?
If there is a Bubble Event ... and they go down with all hands .. who is going to say the Mass for that one? ... ...
I really hope the surveillance buoys are up and running!!
I hope they are tied to the ships, as well as some very good tremor detectors. [NOAA? NASA? Navy?]
They deploy out the back of a plane, how hard is that?
How fast can the ships detach and run for safety ... fast enough? ... or are they dead anyway?
What a terrible situation!!
...
Take the people out of harms way!! Spray on the microbes!!
--- and lets have "at least a clean Gulf" while they try to bring in the other 2 "golden" wells. [Those extra plumes and those other two leaking wells will need separate treatment.]
-- and forget the nuke! If they made a hole in the Earth for 200,000 barrels of microbe fertilizer to come out of ... (their error) ...
W-E-L-L; -- BS will just have a new meaning attached to it! ... BPBS ... = a new concept in "BAD"!
EVEN THE IDEA OF A NUKE IS BOGUS! --IN THIS SITUATION~!!
Consider also ... if the seeps in the formation are not very pressurized and they actually do connect to "The Bubble", the microbes might defuse that bubble by taking out the Crude (which is what makes the methane in the first place). At least without any oil in it, it is less pressurized ... it might even de-bubble!! -- or so one might hope!!
Just saying ... lets choose healthy over wealthy this time ... please?!!
Here is the link, so you don't have to drag anyone here ..
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread585043/pg1
Hypothesis:
Until our understanding is suffiently comprehensive, we are at risk.
Those not suffiently careful are also at risk.
Breath is the Courser and Mind is the Rider. -- Zoroaster
Until our understanding is suffiently comprehensive, we are at risk.
Those not suffiently careful are also at risk.
Breath is the Courser and Mind is the Rider. -- Zoroaster
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
Can you believe the nerve of this guy, sorry congress man(?!).
Next question, on who's paylist is he?
http://acp.repoweramerica.org/page/s/ba ... tent=link1Congressman to BP: "I apologize"
Unbelievably, the ranking committee member, Rep. Joe Barton (R- X), apologized to the BP CEO, calling it a tragedy that a private corporation was being forced to pay
Next question, on who's paylist is he?
Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. -Nikola Tesla -1934
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
BP aren't the only capitalists causing misery.
Chevron's $27 Billion Liability In Ecuador "Glaringly Low" In Light of BP Disaster
http://chevrontoxico.com/news-and-multi ... aster.html
Haitian Farmers Commit to Burning Monsanto Hybrid Seeds
http://www.truth-out.org/haitian-farmer ... seeds59616
From Seeds of Suicide to Seeds of Hope: Why Are Indian Farmers Committing Suicide and How Can We Stop This Tragedy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vandana-s ... 92419.html
What a wonderful world.
Chevron's $27 Billion Liability In Ecuador "Glaringly Low" In Light of BP Disaster
http://chevrontoxico.com/news-and-multi ... aster.html
Haitian Farmers Commit to Burning Monsanto Hybrid Seeds
http://www.truth-out.org/haitian-farmer ... seeds59616
From Seeds of Suicide to Seeds of Hope: Why Are Indian Farmers Committing Suicide and How Can We Stop This Tragedy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vandana-s ... 92419.html
What a wonderful world.
If I have the least bit of knowledge
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.
I will follow the great Way alone
and fear nothing but being sidetracked.
The great Way is simple
but people delight in complexity.
Tao Te Ching, 53.
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
If I were a farmer in Haiti I wouldn't have anything to do with those seed either ...
It is like asking the rapist to do the abortion .. or asking BP to clean up their mess!
Montsanto are part of the most evil of the empire that I can fathom ... bad, bad mojo!!
On the Indian Farmers thing .. I have been mentally close to that ... and if you are not versed in the interface (mental) or have help in seeing what is going on in your mind -- you can become a victim. It is another part of the viscous empire whose rules are all unspoken ... I just wonder how long it has been in operation!
That Chevron has an issue in Ecuador ... hmmm ... wonder if they need web help?
I hear the Codex is hanging over us in the health care bill ... carefully wedged into the lingo. Oh darn, months of collecting signatures and doing ballot qualifications.
It is like asking the rapist to do the abortion .. or asking BP to clean up their mess!
Montsanto are part of the most evil of the empire that I can fathom ... bad, bad mojo!!
On the Indian Farmers thing .. I have been mentally close to that ... and if you are not versed in the interface (mental) or have help in seeing what is going on in your mind -- you can become a victim. It is another part of the viscous empire whose rules are all unspoken ... I just wonder how long it has been in operation!
That Chevron has an issue in Ecuador ... hmmm ... wonder if they need web help?
I hear the Codex is hanging over us in the health care bill ... carefully wedged into the lingo. Oh darn, months of collecting signatures and doing ballot qualifications.
Hypothesis:
Until our understanding is suffiently comprehensive, we are at risk.
Those not suffiently careful are also at risk.
Breath is the Courser and Mind is the Rider. -- Zoroaster
Until our understanding is suffiently comprehensive, we are at risk.
Those not suffiently careful are also at risk.
Breath is the Courser and Mind is the Rider. -- Zoroaster
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
None dare call it conspiracy!
http://www.abeldanger.net/2010/06/naked ... atent.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo
What happens when the perps also fund the opposition?
Loose Change
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_%28film%29
Remember, free energy does not exist It's just more conspiracy theory.
http://www.briansbetterworld.com/websit ... nergy.html
Naked Short selling - BP As patsy - patent pools - Digital safeguardsSnip: I think the fault of the rig explosion is Schlumberger/Transocean, I mean obviously it is their rig and they register it in the Marshall Islands so it does not have to be up to code. Funny coincidence: before all the strange stuff starting happening I found that the Houston address for Microcinema (Loose Change) which I found the tax records for were for the Menil foundation which is Schlumberger.
http://www.abeldanger.net/2010/06/naked ... atent.html
Rachel Maddow- The more spills change_ the more they stay the sameHawks CAFE asks you to investigate Crown Agents’ use of naked short-selling profits to reward members of a sleeper-cell network which filmed the bombing and sinking of the drilling rig Deepwater Horizon, chartered by BP as patsy, but owned and operated by Transocean out of Zug, Switzerland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo
What happens when the perps also fund the opposition?
Loose Change
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_%28film%29
Due to such an unfortunate and untimely “disaster” (sabotage), we (the energy cartel) are now faced with unforeseen (planned) oil shortages that will require modest (astronomical) price increases which (fortunately) must be passed onto you, our “valued customers” (captive audience). This is why we must ask you to invest in “green technology” (the cap and trade carbon offsets global warming energy scam) to help us "defray" (pay for) the costs to cover such unanticipated future (planned) disasters (aka catastrophic bonds payoff “events”). We know that you will want to be responsible citizens who will pay willingly (albeit dearly) to make sure that you leave as small a “carbon footprint” as possible on our poor beleagured Mother Earth …Loose Change (2005, 2006, 2007, 2009) is a series of films written and directed by Dylan Avery, and produced by Korey Rowe, Jason Bermas and Matthew Brown. The latest edition is narrated by Daniel Sunjata, and exclusively distributed by Microcinema International. The films argue that the September 11, 2001 attacks were planned and conducted by elements within the United States government, and base the claims on perceived anomalies in the historical record of the attacks. The first film, Loose Change, was originally released through the creators' own company, Louder Than Words, and received widespread attention after Loose Change 2nd Edition was featured on a Binghamton, New York local FOX affiliate, WICZ-TV (FOX 40).
Remember, free energy does not exist It's just more conspiracy theory.
http://www.briansbetterworld.com/websit ... nergy.html
Sustainable Oil - This is an article that confirms what Brian has always said: oil does not come from dinosaurs and that it is an infinite resource (a secret the energy cartel doesn't want us to know). Oil comes from microorganisms in the earth that transmute magnesium, calcium and hydrogen to produce oil and this is why old wells are flowing again. Brian also says that there is a sewage technique that was patented in the 1930's where raw sewage can be pumped into old wells and 10 years later there will be oil.![]()
http://www.rense.com/general54/ssust.htm
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
Wow, that man has no shame.MrAmsterdam wrote:Can you believe the nerve of this guy, sorry congress man(?!).http://acp.repoweramerica.org/page/s/ba ... tent=link1Congressman to BP: "I apologize"
Unbelievably, the ranking committee member, Rep. Joe Barton (R- X), apologized to the BP CEO, calling it a tragedy that a private corporation was being forced to pay
Next question, on who's paylist is he?
It's a sad fact that BP's executives have to go to the White House and have the POTUS tell them directly that they have to adhere to the same laws as every other corporation in regards to being responsible for dealing with and paying compensation for a natural or unnatural disaster directly resulting from their operations.
On top of that supposedly BP was planning on paying out the compensation anyways according to them, so all Obama did was tell them they had to do something they were already planning to do whether they were planning to do it or not.
I fail to see a reason to apologize to BP's big wigs for that.
Holding an oil company to the same standard as any other company is a tragedy in the United States apparently. Good old Republican family corporate values.
Although for the most part I still stand by my prior statement regarding this whole situation I will admit that even the straight up unbiased facts (before being attached to any theories) are quite disturbing.
And for the record I've never denied big oil's control and manipulation of America and much of the world, and I wouldn't put it past them to do something like this generally speaking I just personally don't feel it was a purposeful act this time. It's certainly being covered up and taken advantage of in many ways though I'm sure.
If I find evidence that I consider credible and damning in regards to this being a purposeful act I will change my view, but so far most of the "damning" evidence I've come across is from people and sites with extreme bias and poor credibility in my view.
The difference between a Creationist and a believer in the Big Bang is that the Creationists admit they are operating on blind faith... Big Bang believers call their blind faith "theoretical mathematical variables" and claim to be scientists rather than the theologists they really are.
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
Oill Subculture ... do a bit of research here Lizzy, you will find one of the biggest collections of snakes in the bedding that has ever been ...because OIL has been big business and big money for ages ... and money lets you leave morality behind if you have enough of it. Power Corrupts as they say!!
"Oil Subculture"
I have written some pretty scathing things about the "Oil Subculture" . (on ATS). and they are -- to the best of my knowledge correct!! ... My Uncle worked for them briefly ... and he said that your life was not worth anything there, if you did not toe the line, if you stood up for something they did not like ... they would simply kill you and throw your body away. They had no compunctions, they were simply god-esque and everyone else was much less.
They have not changed .. they shut up all their people first off, then they shut up the Temp Hired help. .. Go figure, and Obaman the nice clean cut boy from the upper crust school has NO IDEA how to handle the way they do things.
"Oil Subculture"
I have written some pretty scathing things about the "Oil Subculture" . (on ATS). and they are -- to the best of my knowledge correct!! ... My Uncle worked for them briefly ... and he said that your life was not worth anything there, if you did not toe the line, if you stood up for something they did not like ... they would simply kill you and throw your body away. They had no compunctions, they were simply god-esque and everyone else was much less.
They have not changed .. they shut up all their people first off, then they shut up the Temp Hired help. .. Go figure, and Obaman the nice clean cut boy from the upper crust school has NO IDEA how to handle the way they do things.
Hypothesis:
Until our understanding is suffiently comprehensive, we are at risk.
Those not suffiently careful are also at risk.
Breath is the Courser and Mind is the Rider. -- Zoroaster
Until our understanding is suffiently comprehensive, we are at risk.
Those not suffiently careful are also at risk.
Breath is the Courser and Mind is the Rider. -- Zoroaster
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
He knows what's up. He's cut from the same cloth and will smile while lying to your face as he inserts the knife with practiced ease. His stepfather was a geologist who worked as a consultant for the oil industry as well so it's unlikely that he's unaware of how the game is played. He was, and still is, intimately connected with the corrupt Chicago political machine. Obama performs his role as the charismatic front man for the kleptocracy only moderately well, but he knows exactly what his role is regarding appeasing the personages whom hold the real power.and Obaman the nice clean cut boy from the upper crust school has NO IDEA how to handle the way they do things.
Get him away from the teleprompters and he sounds about as intelligent as a slug. No offense to slugs, btw.
cheers
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
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June 19, 2010 - Hutton Commentaries Bulletin (Are Gas-Land Frackings Worse Than Deep-Ocean, Oil-Well-Land Disasters?)
ARE GAS-LAND FRACKINGS WORSE THAN DEEP-OCEAN,
OIL-WELL-LAND DISASTERS?
Although BP's oil-well gusher has pushed other energy issues off the public radar, an HBO film, also showing on June 24, 26 and 30, and July 5, is a reminder that offshore drilling is not the only petroleum-energy-related hazard worth thinking about.
This video report is a good introduction to the problem.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/3/fr ... atural_gas
Also, note that the company, EnCana, is mentioned in the video. If you had invested in this stock on 5/14/2004, EnCana would have gone up 212%. Such is the promise of this and other natural-gas fracking companies. But at what cost to the groundwater purity and methane gas releases to the human environment in fracked areas of Mother Earth? Is this procedure not spiritually illegitimate?
As Hopi medicine man Rolling Thunder was quoted in Mother Earth News (July/August, 1984), there may well be penalties to such human actions ....
....unlike some foreign gurus who claim they know the exact day and time [of the Day of Purification] -- I cannot say exactly when it will occur...I've had visions of the planetary cleansing, and it's truly a horrible thing. Unlike natural disasters of the past -- which involved either fire or water -- this upheaval will involve both fire and water. Cities will be reduced to rubble {as also mentioned in Cayce reading 1152-11} and most of the few survivors will turn on each other violently. The whole thing will take some time though. There will actually be 40 years of purification.
Gulf oil spill worsens -- but what about the safety of gas fracking?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greensp ... king-.html
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Re: BP oil spill NEW methane bubble ..Hoagland speaks out
Discussion?WCSally wrote:Hoagland put a talk on Coast to Coast ... about the Gulf Well spill ... ing.. .ing ...ing ...
The well head is losing integrity. It is being monitored for tipping .. bad if it tips and crimps the pipe.
There is a HUGE mound rising in the ocean floor around the well head ... 20 feet across, tens of feet high ... they speculate it is methane ... he says Mt. St. Helen in the Gulf ... however it is loaded with now 8++,+++ GALLONs of Corexit ... very bad ...
Have a listen to the Video tapes .. he says there are putting bracing down as well, and that the well was some 4 miles deep .. which is where the 100,000 PSI number comes from.
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_23PFnTZ8
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oK-ajsuuAg
Richard Hoagland on Facebook ... there is likely more.
I hope it does not blow up, I wish they would stop with the Corexit ...
and whom ever does math ...
at 20' across, and one mile under water .. how many cubic feet of water would go straight up?
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He says tsunami maybe 400 - 600 MPH will bulldoze FL .. Cuba likely as well ... and then the far coast.
They wolud not be so stupid as to put a high temperature bomb in a space with so much Methane ... the methane to oil in this deposit is 3000 to 1 .... There is more about it being on a fault line, and volcanic issues as well ... I will post the no nuke list next.
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
It's all very worrisome but keep in mind Hoagland the man. He's witty, articulate, occasionally brilliant and always possessed of a vivid imagination. In lieu of complete and accurate information it's tempting to speculate. I'd prefer to restrict my sources to the most unimpeachable possible in such a feverish, open-ended period of fear as we are in now.
Respectfully,
Dotini
Respectfully,
Dotini
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Re: BP oil spill caused by methane bubble?
There can now be no doubt whatsoever that the BP oil spill was purposefully contrived, either through deliberate negligence or outright sabotage, and is now being used to further the Obama administration’s political agenda. Criminal investigations into the government and BP’s role in the disaster need to be launched by state authorities in Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi immediately, while local authorities also need to call emergency legislative sessions in order to take over emergency response efforts from the feds before the crisis gets much worse.
While BP CEO Tony Hayward is busy watching yacht races, Barack Obama, who took two vacations immediately after the oil spill, spends his time playing golf. If this disaster is on a par 9/11 as Obama claims then why is he fiddling while Rome burns? Every effort to find a solution to this crisis while cleaning up the mess has been lackluster and half-hearted. The federal government’s hyped rhetoric about how bad the consequences of this spill will be has not been matched with the appropriate action to combat the problem.
In hindsight, it’s becoming clear that the government has deliberately botched the response and prevented local authorities from doing their jobs, just as FEMA deliberately sabotaged the state response to Hurricane Katrina in order to make the crisis worse and create the pretext for a police state response, gun confiscation and ultimately more federal power.
Numerous reports have surfaced of locals and state authorities being prevented by BP contractors and the U.S. Coast Guard from helping to address the devastation the spill has created in the region.
“(Louisiana) Governor Bobby Jindal had ordered the state’s fleet of sixteen vacuum barges to clean up oil in the Louisiana marshes. On Wednesday, the U.S. Coast Guard intercepted the barges and ordered them to stop the cleanup. Ostensibly, the Coast Guard wanted to “inspect” the barges — but then it didn’t inspect them. It just ordered them back to dock and then did nothing,” reports Fort Liberty.
Just as happened with Katrina, BP in alliance with the feds have erected an ‘information blockade’ around the oil spill. Reporters have been harassed, threatened with arrest and prevented from accessing the affected areas. Oil spill clean up workers have been gagged from talking about their experiences. Foreign ships have been prevented from helping in the clean up process. Every effort has been made to stop the truth about the oil spill from being uncovered – almost everything we learn about the situation comes directly from BP or the federal government. This strictly enforced cover-up shows that authorities are more concerned about protecting their information lock down than actually cleaning up the spill.
This is part of what the Pentagon calls “psychological information warfare” and it is intended to deceive and confuse the enemy (the American people) so that they don’t uncover the truth.
The Jones Act, which forbids foreign ships from operating between U.S. ports, can be waived in in cases of national emergencies or in cases of strategic interest. Belgian company DEME contends that it has the specialist vessels to fix the oil leak within two to four months, technology the U.S. does not have. By taking bids on a contract to fix the oil leak from international companies, Obama could have the problem solved within a matter of weeks, but he immediately refused the help of “thirteen entities that had offered the U.S. oil spill assistance within about two weeks of the Horizon rig explosion.” This is another clear example of the government’s motivation to allow the crisis to drag on indefinitely until they can use it to ram through their environmental agenda, which we shall cover shortly.
Every indication points to the oil spill having been deliberately caused, either by negligence or sabotage, by a combination of BP executives and those who hold the reigns of power in the Obama administration. This goes beyond Obama himself, who is merely there to read the teleprompter and employ his fine acting skills in selling the agenda that the globalists hope to enforce on the back of this contrived crisis.
On May 27, the New York Times reported on how just days before the explosion, BP chose to use a salt-water solution to seal the cement around the casing pipe which was known to be a far riskier option that the stronger heavy drilling fluid.
The choice of using a weaker salt-water solution, in light of the safety concerns surrounding the oil well in the weeks and months before the explosion, prompted heated arguments between a BP official and crew members employed by Transocean, the rig’s owner, on the morning of the blast, according to Douglas H. Brown, the chief mechanic for the Deepwater Horizon.
“Workers from the rig and company officials have said that hours before the explosion, gases were leaking through the cement, which had been set in place by the oil services contractor, Halliburton. Investigators have said these leaks were the likely cause of the explosion,” reported the Times.
Halliburton is named in the majority of some two dozen lawsuits filed since the explosion by Gulf Coast people and businesses who claim that the company is to blame for the disaster.
Halliburton’s role in improperly sealing the well with a riskier option, and the consternation this caused amongst workers on the rig, is shocking given the fact that just 11 days before the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded, Halliburton, the world’s second largest oilfield services corporation, surprised some by acquiring Boots & Coots, a relatively small but vastly experienced oil well control company, for the sum of $240 million dollars.
Halliburton is profiting from the oil spill it helped cause because Boots & Coots is now “under contract to BP – to help stop the Gulf oil spill,” reports the Christian Science Monitor.
“Could Halliburton have known that an oil disaster was on the horizon, and planned in advance to profit from it? News reports indicate they could have,” reports Raw Story.
“The New York Times reported in May that BP was concerned about the rig’s well casing — which Halliburton worked on — as early as June of 2009. The Times also reported that a Halliburton employee warned BP three weeks before the explosion that BP’s use of cement for the well casing was “against [Halliburton's] best practices.”
Given that it was in the process of acquiring a company that would receive millions of dollars in oil spill clean up contracts, was Halliburton’s overriding motivation to properly fix the well or to ensure it remained unstable?
BP itself was aware of cracks appearing in the Macondo well as far back as February, right around the time Goldman Sachs and BP Chairman Tony Hayward were busy dumping their stocks in the company on the eve of the explosion that led to the oil spill, according to information uncovered by congressional investigators.
The Mining and Mineral Services agency released documents to Bloomberg indicating that BP “was trying to seal cracks in the well about 40 miles (64 kilometers) off the Louisiana coast,” according to the report.
The fissures, which BP began to attempt to fix on February 13, could have played a role in the disaster, though this is a question still being explored by investigators. Improperly sealed, the cracks cause explosive natural gas to rush up the shaft.
“The company attempted a “cement squeeze,” which involves pumping cement to seal the fissures, according to a well activity report. Over the following week the company made repeated attempts to plug cracks that were draining expensive drilling fluid, known as “mud,” into the surrounding rocks,” states the report.
As we previously highlighted, eyewitness evidence indicates that Deepwater Horizon managers knew that the BP oil rig had major problems before its explosion on April 20. A crew member who rescued burning workers on the rig told Houston attorney Tony Buzbee of a conversation between Deepwater Horizon installation manager Jimmy Harrell and someone in Houston. According to the witness, Harrell was screaming, “Are you #%?$ happy? Are you #%?$ happy? The rig’s on fire! I told you this was gonna happen.”
The fact that BP managers were aware of problems with the rig and were seemingly unconcerned about fixing them, in addition to Halliburton’s clear financial motivation in improperly sealing the cap, only lends more weight to the already startling indications of some having foreknowledge of the disaster.
On page 37 of British Petroleum’s own investigative report into the oil spill, it is stated that the Hydraulic Control System on equipment designed to automatically seal the well in an emergency was modified without BP’s knowledge sometime before the explosion.
Highly suspicious stock and share trades by people connected to BP before the explosion indicate some extent of foreknowledge.
Goldman Sachs dumped 44% of its shares in BP Oil during the first quarter of 2010 – shares that subsequently lost 36 percent of their value, equating to $96 million. The current chairman of Goldman Sachs is Bilderberg luminary Peter Sutherland, who is also the former chairman of British Petroleum.
Furthermore, as reported by the London Telegraph on June 5th, Tony Hayward, the current BP CEO sold £1.4 million of his shares in the fuel giant weeks before the spill.
So we have clear evidence of foreknowledge, allied with brazen financial motivation on behalf of several directly connected parties to sabotage the oil well, or in the very least ensure that negligent safety procedures increased the likelihood of an explosion, allied with the fact that the well was indeed improperly sealed by these same parties, much to the anger of the people working on the rig.
But the motivation for allowing the well to blow and prolonging the crisis isn’t merely financial, it’s political too. The motto for the people who pull the strings inside the Obama administration, people like Rahm Emanuel and Hillary Clinton is to ‘never let a good crisis go to waste’ – and Obama himself has certainly taken that to heart over the course of the last two months.
The elite are still desperate to impose a consumption tax on Americans as part of the move towards a “post-industrial revolution” and the kind of nightmare “green economy” that has left Spain with a 20 per cent unemployment rate. In a so-called green economy, over 2.2 jobs are lost for every “green job” created.
The Obama administration has aggressively exploited the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico to manufacture an artificial urgency in an effort to speed the passage of cap and trade in pursuit of a “green economy,” an agenda firmly supported by the transnational oil corporations Obama is claiming to be reigning in. British Petroleum is one of the founding members of the cap and trade lobby, and has consistently “lobbied for tax hikes, greenhouse gas restraints, the stimulus bill, the Wall Street bailout, and subsidies for oil pipelines, solar panels, natural gas and biofuels.”
Indeed, BP has been a faithful supporter of John Kerry’s climate legislation because the company has “explicitly backed” a “higher gas tax”. If Obama is able to exploit the oil spill to ram through his cap and trade program, BP stands to profit to the tune of billions. Allowing the crisis to worsen in pursuit of this goal is mutually beneficial to both the Obama administration and British Petroleum.
Obama’s “Agenda is to exaggerate the significance of the oil spill crisis to massive proportions, for two reasons,” writes the Telegraph’s Gerald Warner. “The first is that, the more Americans can be persuaded to regard the accident as a monumental, historic disaster, the less his patent impotence in the face of it will appear blameworthy. His second reason is that, in accordance with the Emanuel doctrine (never let a good crisis go to waste), he sees this as an opportunity to breathe new life into his moribund Cap-and-Trade climate change legislation.”
Obama has now indicated that he will push for cap and trade to be added to a weaker energy bill after the mid-term elections in November. Every week that the oil spill crisis drags on, Obama’s political capital for the purpose of pushing a carbon tax increases in the name of ‘reducing dependence on oil’. The government has every interest in seeing the crisis worsen, not merely to justify cap and trade but also to mothball plans for new exploratory oil drilling in the Arctic, something to which the administration had never wanted to fully commit. . As a result of the oil spill, which every action of the federal government has made worse, that drilling has now been postponed.
Another benefit of the oil spill is that it serves as a convenient distraction and a cover for a number of other stories, primarily the gearing up for a military attack on Iran, which now seems likely as we learn that more than twelve U.S. and Israeli warships, including an aircraft carrier, passed through the Suez Canal on Friday and are headed for the Red Sea.
The underwater oil field still holds as much as 97 per cent of its oil, 2 billion gallons of oil, meaning that this disaster could be prolonged for anything up to four years. Even worse, if studies into the abiotic nature of oil in the Gulf region hold true, the crisis could be never-ending.
Given the multitude of alarming examples of foreknowledge, motivation for sabotage, and clear evidence of deliberate malfeasance and negligence, state authorities in Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi need to immediately launch a mammoth criminal investigation into the role of BP, Halliburton and the federal government in causing the oil spill disaster, as well as their continuing cover-up of the true nature of the crisis, in addition to their efforts to block local authorities as well as foreign companies from helping to both stop the oil leak and clean up the devastation it has caused.
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We encourage readers to contact the office of the Governor in these three states, as well as local legislative offices, in order to bring attention to this urgent matter and create momentum behind a criminal investigation into the disaster. Please be polite in your communications and invite local authorities to look into the evidence presented in this article.
Office of Governor Charlie Crist
State of Florida
The Capitol
400 S. Monroe St.
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
Email the Governor: Charlie.Crist@MyFlorida.com
Email the Lt. Governor: Jeff.Kottkamp@MyFlorida.com
Telephone:
Citizen Services Hotline: (850) 488-4441
Executive Office of the Governor Switchboard: (850) 488-7146
[Office hours are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time]
Fax: (850) 487-0801
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Email Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal
Mailing address:
PO Box 94004
Baton Rouge, LA 70804-9004
Main line: 225-342-7015 or Toll Free at 866-366-1121
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Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour
Telephone: 1-877-405-0733 or 601-359-3150
Mail: P.O. Box 139, Jackson, Mississippi 39205
Email: governor@governor.state.ms.us.
http://www.infowars.com/states-need-to- ... oil-spill/
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