Dowsing and the lattice.

[mague]

Imagine, a system of dead straight lines, no bends or curves whatsoever, that these lines similer to sheets of glass, and whatever is the edge of universe these sheets fit inside it , or pass through to every other universe?
So you have these sheets of glass, think of them in just one direction to start with, think of them having countless similer sheets all parallel to your first one, then imagine other sheets at ninty degrees to your first ones, then imagine more and more sets at various angles, and those angles are not reguler like a clock face, but follow a sequence.
try to sit and think of only that, nothing else.

Kevin, do you think its possible that the first set of paralell sheets and the 2nd set that is crossing the 1st set have a different source ? Although very, very, very slow (like 1 mm in 10 million years), is it possible that they both move and probably slightly change the crossing angles ?

And is it possible that the 3rd set which is following a sequence is the result of the other two sets and then, after being created by 1st and 2nd adding and "creating" as 3rd in interaction with the 1st and 2nd ? Like a selfcreated trinity ?

Straight lines , at specific distances apart, running parallel, and at a multitude of angles create a geometric matrix, it's the STUFF flowing upon it that creates everything, and maintains it, or breaks it back down into it's basic STUFF again, the geometry provides the stuff with the means to turn into its opposite self, then they implode together, and make YOU.
kevin

Implode ? I sense it a bit different. Like sitting in a spaceship and drilling a hole into the hull. Vacuum and pressure exchange and create an effect. Or like a motor where compression and expansion create rotation. Anything that is contrary and able to create a zero point maybe. The zero point seems to be the best base to grow something unbiased. I sense that the "growth" out of the zero point resulting from the 3 sets is wild and chaotic. It grows in any possible way, but after a while destroys everything that is useless or not harmonic. After destruction is is recycled into the basic stuff just to grow wild and chaotic again. However, the branches which growed harmonic remain and add to the creation as whole. A bit like an evolution maybe..

[kevin]

Hope this link fits into what I have been waffling about?
http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/william_l ... hysics.pdf

This plonker Albert is looking more and more like a stooge to Me?
Kevin

[junglelord]

Thats quite the link you got there.
It is correct, it actually pulls together the disparet pieces of aether physics, tesla, ufos and national security.

I have read a convincing document that Tesla's personal assistance was a double agent for the Nazi's.
That would explain a lot of stuff.


Also nice work on Whittaker, one of my first journeys into national security and EM Scalar work.

Low and High Frequency Electromagnetic Waves
And Tesla's Wireless Transmission of Energy

Low frequency electromagnetic waves can pass through solid
bodies, and tend to "hug the earth", while high frequency waves don't
penetrate solid bodies, causing a "skin effect" on them, and don't "hug
the earth", but tend rather to travel outward away from the earth in
straight lines. Nikola Tesla, in his Colorado Springs Experiments, was the
first person to investigate high voltage waves of high and low frequency,
and their terrestrial, atmospheric, and solid-body effects. The scope of
Tesla's Colorado Springs experiments were so far-reaching, that very
little or nothing was said in science journals about them, because they
left other scientists so dumbfounded that they were paralyzed by
miscomprehension.

Many of Tesla's tests in Colorado were related to electropulsion. A
long wave affects the internal mass of a space ship, "synthesizing
momentum", by invoking the rotatory motion of electromagnetism, to
create the drill-like electromagnetic microhelices ("tubes of force")
which "bore through" the ether as the mass moves. At the same time, a
higher frequency at the opposite end of the ship, opposite to the
direction of travel, causes the ether to be accelerated as it passes through
the mass of the ship and its contents, with an increased angle of pitch, so
the microhelical boring action propels the ship through space.
Low frequency waves also make it possible to project forceful
longitudinal electromagnetic pulses to a specific, distant point, by
sending the wave along a conductor or polarized atmospheric "carrier
beam" of U.V. or higher frequency radiation. The high voltage long
wave, carried directionally to a distant point by the carrier beam, can in
turn carry additional higher frequency waves superimposed on it, to
deliver the high frequency exciting energy, at the powerful long-wave
peaks. This was the basis for Tesla's "Transmission of Electrical Energy
Without Wires" inventions, as well as his "energy beam" and "death
ray" inventions, as the same system can be used for all three. The
manipulation of these wave characteristics is inextricably involved in
electropulsion, stimulated by Tesla's study of the works of 19th century
"ether physicists", and his own brilliant creative intuitions of the
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rotating magnetic field, in Budapest Hungary, in 1882. This rotating
magnetic field discovery was involved in his electropulsion discovery,
because Tesla realized that the rotatory force of magnetic fields could be
used to synthesize the rotating "tubes of force", the naturally occurring
phenomena in solid bodies spoken of by Faraday and Maxwell and
known to Tesla, to propel a ship through space. The tubes had also been
discussed in 1881, by J.J. Thomson in England, but Thomson had never
related the tubes specifically to the ether until after Nikola Tesla had
connected the tubes to his intended electropulsion.
Tesla discovered that by using a low frequency beam-directed pulse,
he could cause, at the quarter wavelength, the eruption of a large
electromagnetic pulse which could, by carrying a much higher exciting
wave, excite the atmospheric gases in a region, to explosively expand
them, followed by a tremendous implosion and the absorption of a great
amount of heat in the area, causing immediate freezing. This process
would create an initial explosive shock wave followed by the implosive
return wave, similar to nuclear detonation. For example, by using a low
frequency of 60 cps, with a wavelength of 3,100 miles, directed by
carrier-beam, a pulse could be made to erupt at one-quarter wavelength-
—775 miles, corrected to 751 miles by velocity factor. By superimposing
an exciting frequency of say 50 megahertz or so, the atmospheric gases
could be excited to cause a "cold implosion" which absorbs heat. By
altering the wavelength and the direction of propagation, the results
could be delivered to any terrestrial point.
The Tesla ion bulb, fundamental to Tesla's "beams", is a solid
aluminum hemisphere, enclosed in a glass vacuum envelope, excited by
high voltage D.C. applied to the center of the hemispherical end. A
polarized beam is emitted normal to the flat face center. The frequency
is determined by the voltage. The ion beam polarizes, concentrates, and
guides a spherical, long wave front, amplified by Tesla's "extra coil", to
a distant target, which amplifies a higher frequency wave front
superimposed upon it, which will "ring" in-the target area at one-quarter
wavelength, in fact ring many times.
Outside the bulb, in close proximity to the beam, the high voltage
alternating current ("power wave") of low frequency, is emitted by a
ring-shaped electrode, and is directed along the beam's atmospherically
created conductive path, and is projected toward the distant target
where the one-quarter wave peak delivers it at its "point" of greatest
potential. This idea of Tesla's may have been stimulated by Maxwell's
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concept that conductivity actually occurs in the dielectrics surrounding
a conductor, with the 'conductor' serving only to "guide" the current.
The June 30,1908 Siberian explosion/implosion at Tungushka, was
probably a risky test or inadvertent result of Tesla's giant Wardenclyffe
oscillator, and may have been a hidden reason as to why the project was
never completed. It should also be pointed out that this method involved
the absorption of energy "from the environment", since heat moves from
hot to cold. This was yet another great energy discovery. Tesla's method
"opened up" the atmosphere to this possibility, consistent with what he
said about nuclear energy coming from "the environment".
The Tungushka explosion may also have been the impetus for a
"very tempting offer" made to Tesla years before by V.I. Lenin,
mentioned in retrospect in a November 29,1934 letter from Tesla to J.P.
Morgan (microfilm, Library of Congress). The Lenin offer would have
been between 1917 and 1934, and was mentioned unsuccessfully in
attempt to tantalize Morgan). Tesla's "particle beam" weapon was
hinted at in the following illustration:

Tesla's TELEFORCE Discoveries
Tesla's Teleforce discoveries, evolved between 1900 and 1940,
consisted of a "new" way to produce rays in free air without a vacuum,
a "new" way to create a "very great electrical force", a "new" way of
"magnifying" the force, and a "new" means of electro-propulsion
(William L. Laurence, New York Times, Sept. 22,1940,11, p. 7). These
four "new" discoveries—all of which could work together—were actually
a juxtaposition of and different application of Tesla's devices already
tested separately in the Colorado Springs experiments or later in New
York or Wardenclyffe, with the exception that by 1915, he had tested the
electropulsive missile powered by beam-projected electrical energy, and
had tested a small, one-man electropulsive prototype in which he
ventured out his hotel window at night over New York City in
experimental test flights, and which served as an experimental basis for
a much larger and more ambitious set of space ships which he had
designed, which were repeatedly rejected by the U.S. government,
probably because they thought he was nuts.
Even the Nazis were skeptical that the Tesla electro-propulsive
technology might work, being unconvinced until Wernher von Braun
had actually tested the concepts at Los Alamos in 1936 and 1937, and
obtained the final approval of Hitler. Almost immediately after von
Braun's return to Germany in late 1937, construction was begun on
large "cigar-shaped" ships, using at first the iron pressure hulls of Uboats,
which were already equipped with a hermetically sealable system
carrying diesel generators for use in the atmosphere, and batteries for
use in outer space. With the huge difference between the strength of the
electromagnetic interaction and gravity, weight was apparently no
object.
Since Tesla had actually received offers from the Russians prior to
that time, I had considered the possibility that he had knowingly or
unknowingly cooperated somehow with the Nazis in their Los Alamos
experiments, through some of the unidentified laboratories he said he
was working with, which is a very real possibility.
In looking for a probable Nazi spy, there was one who had wormed
his way into Tesla's most intimate confidences, who was later convicted
and imprisoned for his espionage activities in America, but the exact
nature of his activities, other than the dissemination of Nazi propaganda,
was never specified in the public records. This connection was the most
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probable explanation for how Tesla's electropulsive discoveries found
their way to the Nazi "p2" project, with all elements coinciding perfectly
in time. The fact that von Braun's pre-war New Mexico adventures have
been subsequently concealed from the public by the Secret Government,
a degree of secrecy which cannot be explained except by reference to the
Nazi flying saucer projects, is compelling

One of the most telling pieces of evidence regarding the intentional
misinterpretation of Tesla's discoveries—especially just after Tesla's
death in Jan., 1943, at which point all Tesla's papers and apparati fell
into the hands of the FBI—is the obvious meaning of the name for his
system—"TELEFORCE"—which means "force at a distance", in the
context of the four listed parts of the system to be used together, being
clearly applicable to flying saucer propulsion, once I pointed out the
fraud, and correctly interpreted the statement in 1993.
I have to hand it to the spooks, for doing such a good job of
concealing the connection between the flying saucer and the only man
who could have invented it—and whom the public should most readily
accept as the inventor who rightfully deserved the credit for it—even
though he never had a fair opportunity of giving his greatest discovery
to the world, for lack of money to build a working model of sufficiently
developed potential to impress us. The reason why he never had the
money was because of the secret "bill of attainder" placed on his name
by the greedy monopolists who were and still are afraid of technological
freedom and a truly free market of ideas, goods, and services.

George Patton took a special armored group deep into Russian-encircled
territory, to the Nazi rocket center at Peenemunde on the Baltic.
Attached to this group, disguised as "tank commanders", were Army
intelligence officers specially vested with the task of retrieving all flying
saucer materials and/or destroying the same at the Peenemunde project,
along with retrieval of any technical drawings, etc. of strategic
importance at the project, before it could be captured by the Russians.
On discovering 200 celestial guidance systems (A.K.A., "inertial"
guidance systems) deep underground in a salt cave, General Patton was
infuriated on being ordered to destroy these systems by his superiors,
being unaware of the fact that the technical drawings and specifications
for the systems were already in American possession.
Development of the systems was imperative for the flying saucer,
since a magnetic compass would be worthless due to the "Faraday cage"
effect of the electric field surrounding the saucer, which would block out
the magnetic field of the earth. The master gyro was calibrated to true
north prior to takeoff, and would continue to hold that position during
flight, so that the "slave" compass would have that as a reference, in
order to actuate the six-volt motor and turn the geared compass heading
ring to reflect the correct direction of flight. This particular type of
Peiltochterkompass was used on a circular ship which could turn
peripherally—in 360 degrees, frontwards, sideways, backwards, etc., in
increments or multiples of 30 degrees—while other devices were used on
some of the latest types of German "V" ("Vergetungswaffen", or
"Revenge-weapons") rockets, which carried neutron bomb warheads,
and were fired from underwater from special small submarines which
were towed behind the latest "Electro-U-Boats" used in the final
"Stalemate" which I detailed in Space Aliens.
Subsequent to my purchase, security agents learned of my
possession of it and knowledge of what it was, so they went to Mark
King, son of the owner of King's Surplus City, and grilled him. He
showed them the bill of sale from Sandia Base, pursuant to his purchase
of the small pile of salvage from a Sandia Base employee who usually
brought salvage from that base to sell to him. As it turned out, the man
had stolen a pile of classified salvage and sold it for his own profit, using
a 'double-receipt' process intended to cover his tracks, but the security
people put the man under surveillance, caught him doing it again, and
charged, convicted and jailed him. They could not get the device back
from me, because I was an "innocent purchaser",

[junglelord]

The ether, the medium which conducts the ZPR, can be converted
into any form of matter or energy. It is possible to precipitate any
element out of the ether, using proper technology. The ether contains the
building blocks of what we call "solid matter", the proof of which
enhances this possibility.
Nikola Tesla eventually realized the ether's use in his discovery of
the "tremendous propelling force". His electropulsive technology works,
and that is more important that splitting hairs...or atoms.
Only an ether which is intimately involved with momentum, could
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explain such a tremendous propulsion force such as that which I
observed in 1953. This propulsive force was nothing more than a force
which exists in nature, which in the hands of man becomes an article of
will, once the physical processes capable of synthesizing and
manipulating it become known.
From the rate and manner of acceleration, in conjunction with the
probable mass of the ship I observed, it was immediately apparent that
the entire volume of the ship, if filled with conventional rocket or jet fuel,
would have been consumed in the three seconds required for it to
accelerate to c.9,000 mph and disappear at infinity, except for the
existence of Tesla's technology which electromagnetically canceled
inertia and synthesized a new momentum instantaneously.
What is inertia? Inertia is the momentum which a body 'at rest'
already possesses because it is in a state of uniform motion, but which to
us appears to be at rest. Tesla's technology uses the electromagnetic
interaction, which is 1040 times stronger than gravity, to create a
"tremendous propelling force" which instantaneously reprograms the
atoms and molecules of a ship with new micro helical tubes of force along
a new trajectory, and destroys the " memory" of the tubes of force which
created its prior inertia/momentum.
Electropulsion is a "free energy" process in which energy existing
in the environment—"gravity" and momentum—are overcome by and
replaced with the naturally stronger force of electromagnetism, to
perform a greater amount of work during a given time, which
theoretically is 1040 times more work, using a smaller amount of "input
energy" to trigger the change. If "energy" is "the ability to do work",
and "work" is the "movement of mass through a distance", then a
stronger force will do more work over a given time period. A change of
form of energy from a weaker to a stronger force (which exists in the
environment) will use "environmental energy" to do more work in a new
way.
The process which makes electropulsion possible, is the dynamism
of the universe, which naturally exchanges weaker and stronger forces
to conserve perpetual motion, with any lost momentum being resupplied
by the ZPR.

[mague]

I am not done with reading yet. Just a note. His translations are lacking.

There is no way a german would call a flying saucer "Kreisel Teller p2". Just as Meisterkreiselkompass is an impossible word. And Peiltochterkompass as well. Words like Meister (master) and Tochter (daughter) do not fit into technology at all. There wont be master and slave. Not even in nazi germany In technology it would be Haupt (main) and Unter (sub) or Neben (aside).

That doesnt change his other teories, but the nazi connection is weak, very weak.

[kevin]

Mague,
I think you need to read between the words, I particuraly laughed at his description of the womens breasts been perfectly shaped flying saucers, and that the cigar shaped ones will have had female designers.
He was joking, I sense a bit of a charecter behind this book?
The words he used for guidance compasses may be his own?(teller????)
I have a friend who writes local history books, he gets loads wrong, many people then tell him the corrections, He doesn't mind, he finds out more that way.
Kevin

[Grey Cloud]

I am not done with reading yet. Just a note. His translations are lacking.

There is no way a german would call a flying saucer "Kreisel Teller p2". Just as Meisterkreiselkompass is an impossible word. And Peiltochterkompass as well. Words like Meister (master) and Tochter (daughter) do not fit into technology at all. There wont be master and slave. Not even in nazi germany In technology it would be Haupt (main) and Unter (sub) or Neben (aside).

That doesnt change his other teories, but the nazi connection is weak, very weak.

Hi all,
Picking up on Mague's point, the following struck me as somewhat dubious:

George Patton took a special armored group deep into Russian-encircled
territory, to the Nazi rocket center at Peenemunde on the Baltic.

Peenemunde was taken by the British not the Soviets. Patton's Third Army operated in the south towards and including Czechoslovakia. The British and Canadians operated in the north up near the Baltic. Also Patton, being an Army commander, would have sent rather than taken any such force. And on a more pedantic point, it would have been 'Russian occupied' rather than 'Russian encircled'.

[mague]

Ok, i did some research. Words like "Peiltochterkompass" and "Mutterkompass" do exist really. The funny names seem to have their historic origin in naval navigation. They are older then aviation or nazi germany. Still no Meisterkreiselkompass, but it describes the same as Mutterkompass (Mothercompass).

The "Kreisel Teller" is actually main part of a mothercompass and makes sense in that relation. The idea behind it is to have one compass and many displays. The mothercompass is placed under the seat or in the back of a plane or somewhere in a naval ship. The "Tochterkompass" or daughtercompass is just the display. This system makes sure that everyone like pilot, co-pilot and navigator read the same data. This is nothing special and is used on ships and airplanes since a long time.

A "Peiltochterkompass" is kind of a guidance system indeed. It is used to navigate a ship or plane. Ofc. a flying saucer would need such a device too. But not more or less then any other ship or plane.

The compass in the arcticle is manufactured by Lizt Germany. It seems Lizt was manily producing for Fokker while Patin was producing forJunkers. The compass from Lizt was named "Kreisel Teller p2" or KT-p2, the name of the competitor was named Patin Kreisel Teller p2 or PKT-p2. The p2 doesnt stand for a secret project, but for a technical detail. It is a electronic designation for an oscillating electromagnetic dipole. Both compass'es had the same features and therefor the same name. Just Patin added a P to the name. There are other similar daughter compass'es with something like -f8 or similar as sufix.

Here is a link to the Patin model. Scroll down to Fl.23374 Peiltochterkompass PKT-p2.
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/instru ... mpasse.htm

[lizzie]

Oh, no! Another “conspiracy theorist”!

Junglelord said: That’s quite the link you got there. If it is correct, it actually pulls together the disparet pieces of aether physics, tesla, ufos and national security.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/forum/phpB ... 969#p10651

http://greyfalcon.us/Space%20Aliens%20F ... ntagon.htm

http://www.thewebfairy.com/missilegate/rfz/

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/ufonazi.html

Junglelord said: I have read a convincing document that Tesla's personal assistance was a double agent for the Nazi's. That would explain a lot of stuff.

You mean Curious George?

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm

[Grey Cloud]

Can we please get back to the topic?

[lizzie]

ORMUS and Pyramids
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/pyramids.htm

Dr. Philip Callahan measured some very different properties of the atmosphere inside the Kings Chamber of the Great Pyramid. Here are his comments on this from his book titled "ANCIENT MYSTERIES, MODERN VISIONS - The Magnetic Life of Agriculture":

I am firmly convinced that the pyramids, both Egyptian and Central American, were huge antigravity structures for levitating the priests. The pyramid acted like a huge "enlarger-type" condensing lens which concentrated the cosmic energy into the hollow resonant stone tower, which in turn was filled with the IR-paramagnetic, organic breath of chanting priests.

"I have been working with paramagnetism for years. I not only discovered good soil to be paramagnetic, but likewise refined beeswax. That later discovery indicated to me that since insects are coated with wax, their antennae are paramagnetic structures. Since insect sensilla have definite shapes for resonating to different infrared wavelengths, do the various shapes of stone religious structures indicate that they resonate to the paramagnetic forces of the cosmos? In other words, can they collect and concentrate the paramagnetic cosmic force above what would normally occur in unshaped soil and rocks? The answer is yes, and inside that King's Chamber at Giza I proved that without a shadow of doubt.

In my work with Irish round towers, I developed model smooth and corrugated round towers that respond to the paramagnetic-infrared aura of the human body.

Alexandr GOLOD - Pyramid Devices
http://www.rexresearch.com/golod/golod.htm

The Tibetan Shaman Vril Power Generator™ (Dorje)
http://www.lifetechnology.org/vrilgenerator.htm

The Tibetan Shaman Vril Power Generator™ is an immensely powerful metaphysical tool hand crafted in the traditional way by Tibetan monks using specialist metals selected for their energy enhancement properties to produce a personal energy tool of unique physical and metaphysical effects.

A major harmful influence is the electromagnetic fields (also referred to as EMF EMR ELF EMP) which constantly surround us. Aside from cosmic and telluric radiation we are constantly bombarded by artifical radiation from electrical appliances, emissions from our domestic electricity supply, cellphone towers, cellphones in our pockets and all manner of harmful frequencies.

The Tibetan Shaman Vril Power Generator™ can counter these ambient electromagnetic fields through the creation of a harmonic resonance loop with the earth's natural electromagnetic field, the Schumann Field. It is scientifically recognised that all life on the planet is significantly affected by The Schumann Field and through connection with this field the human organism can reach a state of optimal function, harmony and health.

[kevin]

I would just like to introduce the spider into this dowsing thread.
If you can imagine the circulations in these drawings as been composed by straight lines that carry on in all directions, and that the position of the adjoining central points is determined by the geometry of straight lines.
I realise this is confusing, but if you can imagine the patterns of one point creating multiple circulations of polygons, and then imagine how other similer ones overlap , and depending upon the distances between the points causes different interferance patterns to be developed.
http://keelynet.com/spider/b-119e.htm

Remember that the lattice provides a carrier web for the aether to flow upon, and the aether will cross from line to line seeking and attracted to it's opposite.
Then think about the patterns left in the nazca plains in Peru, they were merely tracing out what they felt, the patterns created by the geometry.
Kevin

[lizzie]

Spider web building in outer space

http://www.americanarachnology.org/JoA_ ... 5_grey.pdf

Earlier experiments, particularly with high doses of drugs which cause paralysis or convulsions (Witt, 1971), have shown that web-building is a high priority activity of spiders ; no food without webs and no webs without food (Peakall, 1968) and consequently no survival for the individual . The high priority of web-building apparently drove our animals to try repeatedly without success, until three days after opening of the transport vial the first animal was reported to build a web in August.

[lizzie]

So Kevin what is the energy change you are sensing?

[Drethon]

Lizzie,
This will be really difficult to verbalise, or for you to comprehend.
We have been TOLD that space is empty, and that all mass floats about in this held in circulations by some form of gravity.
If you can manage to clear out that very well downloaded software out of your head, and THINK
....
kevin

I haven't been able to read this thread for a while, overtime has made it difficult to have my preconceptions mangled by a different point of view

I was reading your description of the universe and it seems to be fairly similar to this link I found in one of the other topics: http://www.spaceandmotion.com/science-p ... agrams.htm. I wonder if what you perceive could be a component of what is described in the link...