On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:56 am

Mague said: If we now analyse this space-time we will tend to think the observed is the matter and its rules. We will see that the water is the catalysator of creation. We will see that if we vibrate the water in different frequencies that creation changes. Now take a cup of water and pour it on the plate. All rules are gone. Shapes dissolve; no forms, different chemistry, different electricity and fields. This is a riddle, because the frequency of the super fulid aethers ebb and flow is very low and can only observed indirectly as transcendence.


LOL. You are right, of course. They really don’t know. What causes the “phase changes” of the aether? What causes the “wave/particle” duality? Is it a combination of transverse, longitudinal and surface waves? What are torsion waves or gravity waves? What are time reverse waves? There are lots of interesting theories, however.

What is the Aether?
http://www.encyclopedianomadica.org/English/aether.php

Greek Mythology

Aether in Greek mythology is probably first mentioned by Hesiod as a figure of the Highest or Superior Heaven. 'Higher' than it, only its 'mother' Nix ("The Night") and its 'father' Erebus ("The Dark"). So, Aether is issued from the dark, the dark of the night and the dark of the cosmos; 'his' sister is Hemera ("The Day")

Imponderable Aether:

The birth of the scientific concept of the Aether can be traced to Renaissance thought - in particular to the one-all substance of Spinoza, Descartes' notion of a vortical occupation of space, and Leibniz's monist theory of monads.

Stationary Luminiferous (Classical) Aether:

Conversely, the notion of a static Aether, a mechanical, jelly-like Aether, finds its classical origins in Newton. In 19th century physics, the positing of a luminiferous aether was used to reconcile Maxwell's electromagnetic theory and Newtonian mechanics. This inaugurated the brief age of the Classical Aether embraced by Young, Maxwell, Kelvin, Lodge, Lorentz, etc.

The Death of the Classical Aether and the rise of the Field Concept:

The failure to detect the motion of the Earth through the Aether called the classical concept of the Aether into question, and it was for the first time formally dispensed with in Albert Einstein's theory of Special Relativity. The demise of the classical Aether was equally due to the rise of the field concept - from Faraday, through Maxwell to Einstein and Quantum-Dynamics.

Modern Aether Theories:

The modern scientific development of Aether theories points, instead, in a different direction with respect to both dark and subtle properties of the Aether - it points towards the concept of a massfree energy medium that has 'a- photic' or nonelectromagnetic properties. The Aether's 'subtlety' results from its massfree or noninertial property, and the 'invisibility' from its nonphotonic or dark nature. This rejoins Anaxagoras when he wrestled the original concept of the Aether from Greek mythology.

Gravitational Aether (Einstein):

In the 1910-1925 period, A. Einstein proposed an interpretation of his General Relativity that took recourse to an Aether of Space, a Gravitational Aether, responsible for the production of space and gravity as physical effects:

The "New Aether" (ZPE/mCBR):

In 1913, A. Einstein and O. Stern first proposed the notion of a cosmic heat bath whose function corresponded to their concept of a Zero Point Energy (ZPE) filling up space. Though this early concept of the ZPE was rejected, the 1967 discovery of a microwave cosmic background radiation (mCBR) led to a reformulation of the ZPE hypothesis by stochastic (T. Boyer) and quantum models (H. Puthof, B. Haisch). Modern ZPE theories have in common the notion that the "vacuum state" is an electromagnetic field (ZPF) present even near absolute zero temperature, the ZPF being homogeneous, isotropic and subject to Lorentz invariance.

The Dynamic Aether Theories:

All theories of a dynamic Aether accept the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment, the lack of Aether drag, and explain that null result by the properties of a massless or massfree Aether.

N. Tesla's Theory of Longitudinal Electric Aether Radiation:

The first attempt at a theory of the dynamic Aether was Nikola Tesla's hypothesis that propagation of electric signals was distinct from the generation of electromagnetic signals, and made the latter possible. Tesla envisioned an electrical Aether having incompressible and radiative properties.

Orgonomy/Orgonometry:

Dr. W. Reich's Theory of Orgone Energy:

The second attempt at a theory of a dynamic Aether was Wilhelm Reich's theory of orgone energy (1940- 1957). Reich's approach lay the foundations for a (micro)functionalist treatment of physico-mathematical quantities and processes, but failed to generate a consistent method capable of successfully distinguishing gravitational and electromagnetic interactions and properties, from 'orgonotic' and massfree interactions or properties.

The Quon/Hadronic Aether of Dr. H. Aspden:

The first cogent and comprehensive model of a dynamic Aether was proposed by Harold Aspden as far back as 1958. Aspden's model of a dynamic Aether invokes the existence of a near-balanced continuum of cosmological charge populated by 'Aether particles', the quons, that are capable of condensing ordinary electron-positron pairs and are not subject to the constraints of Relativity (hence, are massless-like)

Aetherometry:

Since 1999, Dr. Paulo Correa and Alexandra Correa have proposed an immanentist-monist model of an imponderable dynamic Aether. This model defines the Aether as primary massfree energy (Dark Massfree Energy) in electric (ambipolar) and nonelectric (latent heat) forms.


Theories of Aether
http://www.mountainman.com.au/aether.html

" It is our thesis that a continuum of substance fills all space in the known cosmos; that it is an amorphous fluid; that it is everywhere and always the conducting medium for energies; that this material is subject to changes of volume hence is intrinsically compressible; that pressure changes alter the degree of compression of this material; that under the influence of such pressure-density patterning, self persisting units of material occur; and that such units, always contiguous either to each other or to material in unorganized free form, are the things out of which ponderable matter is made." – Glird


Is it longitudinal waves in a vacuum?

Longitudinal Waves in a Vacuum
http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/transverse-waves.htm

Nikola Tesla wrote: "I showed that the universal medium is a gaseous body in which only longitudinal pulses can be propagated, involving alternating compressions and expansions similar to those produced by sound waves in the air. Thus, a wireless transmitter does not propagate Hertz waves, which are a myth, but sound waves in the ether, behaving in every respect like those in the air, except that, owing to the great elastic force and extremely small density of the medium, their speed is that of light."

What this is about is the proposition that the physical vacuum must be exclusively some sort of crystalline media. Clearly, if the vacuum, as is well known, supports longitudinal E/M waves, the conditions of the vacuum must perforce also exist in some fluidic, or superfluidic, or some otherwise plastic condition.

In the vacuum, longitudinal waves are energy density waves. That is to say that there is some periodic energy variation created locally in space which results in some variation of the volumetric density of this energy. In other words, space itself may be a product or result of some process and the local energy density of space would be dependent on the parameters of this process. Longitudinal energy density waves in the vacuum, should then create some locally observable change in space or in the structure of some material object located in the region of the wave. This has been demonstrated experimentally.

Energy density waves (EDW) differ from normal E/M. In the longitudinal wave, energy density is modulated in the direction from the generating source to infinity. The velocity of energy density waves is still a matter of inquiry, but if the space (the aether) is considered as at least occasionally having the properties of some manner of solid state matter, it appears highly likely that the velocity of propagation of energy density waves will be found to be some super-luminal or instantaneous velocity.

Mishin concluded that the aether exists in several different states and that the particular state depends on the parameters of the turbulent disturbance (or its temperature). He gave 5 different aether conditions he called aether-1 through aether-5. He referenced aether-1 as a solid state, aether-2 as a dense superfluid liquid, aether-3 was connected with molecular motion as in a gaseous body, aether-4 was similar to the plasma state, and his aether-5 corresponded to galactic processes.

Given all the forgoing, it seems that Tesla's understanding of the aether as fluidic may be accurate for certain species of the various energy-levels of processes in the vacuum.

Kozyrev's "instantaneous interactions by means of active properties of time" are possible in a solid state aether.


Or is it longitudinal, transverse and surface waves?

Aether Physics
http://www.esotericscience.com/Aether.aspx

The aether model allows us to describe the universe in a more intuitive way that eliminates many of the paradoxes and contradictions of standard theory.

One of the other main objections people have to the aether model relates to the transmission of transverse waves, a characteristic of light vibration.

If the aether were to be a solid it has been estimated that it would need to have the hardness of steel in order to support transverse waves at the speed of light.

On the other hand gases and liquids don’t normally support transverse waves.

However on closer examination we find that liquids can in fact carry transverse waves. There has been recent experimental evidence in support of this, where it was found that supercooled helium, which becomes superfluid at very low temperatures, transmits transverse sound waves.

As a starting point we will assume the aether to be of a consistency close to a liquid, and occasionally solid such as within nuclear particles.

It would have the ability to flow like a liquid and to carry longitudinal and transverse vibrations.

It is important to note that the aether is not to be considered as separate from other matter but as the substrate within which all particles are formed and through which physical forces are mediated.


Wave Motion
http://paws.kettering.edu/~drussell/Dem ... otion.html

Longitudinal and Transverse Wave Motion

Mechanical Waves are waves which propagate through a material medium (solid, liquid, or gas) at a wave speed which depends on the elastic and inertial properties of that medium. There are two basic types of wave motion for mechanical waves: longitudinal waves and transverse waves

Water waves are an example of waves that involve a combination of both longitudinal and transverse motions.

Another example of waves with both longitudinal and transverse motion may be found in solids as Rayleigh surface waves.


Measuring Earthquakes
http://www.dnr.mo.gov/geology/geosrv/ge ... ingeqs.htm

There are two basic types of seismic waves- body waves and surface waves. Generally, the first jolt felt during an earthquake is the push-pull body wave, or P wave, as it reaches the surface. A second jolt is another type of body wave, called an S wave.

Surface waves usually follow the P and S wave, traveling along the land surface like water waves. There are several types of surface waves; the two most important are Raleigh waves (R) and Love waves (L), named for the scientists who first identified them.


Are torsion fields the “missing link”?

Torsion Fields
http://www.rexresearch.com/torsion/torsion7.htm

What is a Torsion Field? According to A. Akimov, these fields come in at least three types: E-fields, S-fields, and G-fields. The E, S, and G stand for Electric, Spin, and Gravity fields. The torsion field and its emanations are subtle energy fields. They are separate and distinct from classical Electric, Magnetic, and Gravity fields. Generators for these fields can be shielded against electro-magnetic fields and the torsion field still manifests itself through such shielding. Torsion fields can be generated, detected, switched on and off (such as for communication purposes), and are a distinct type of energy field heretofore not included in today's classical physics. Torsion field emanations can travel at velocities at least as high as 109 times the speed of light. Torsion fields can interact with laser beams (change frequency); affect biological processes; are generated by melting or solidifying some materials; affect quartz crystals; affect some electronic components; can favorably change some beverages; and have been noted to affect gravity.

According to Akimov, torsion fields coupled with the standard electric, magnetic, and gravity fields should provide means for a unified field theory that will extend the realm of science to include the effects of consciousness. The concept of dowsing, for example, can now have a scientific basis for explanation of the phenomenon. If this suggestion by Akimov proves viable, then science has an opportunity to extend its borders more rapidly into the so-called psychic realms. That could be a multi-decade venture of considerable importance to the expansion of scientific knowledge.


Are there really time-reversed EM waves or are they simply an expression of torsion fields?

Time Reversal and the Time-Reversed EM Wave
viewtopic.php?p=5708&sid=e3b66a0db623a0dd1c633c19a28dd089#p3247

You must understand time-reversal and the time-reversed EM wave [Ref 5] itself, including the theory of the phase conjugate mirror and of the pumped phase conjugate mirror (from nonlinear optics.) Yariv [Ref 6] Chapter 16 and Pepper [Ref 7, Ref 8] are key to that understanding.

You should also realize that a time-reversed (TR) wave is seen by the observer in his own "forward time." Hence he sees the wave spatially reversed. In short, he sees the same thing as he would see if a movie -- of the wave expressed as a forward time wave -- were simply reversed. So the TR wave ever-converges on its course, rather than diverges. Convergence is the time-reversal of divergence. Apply similar TR processes to other characteristics of a normal wave, by letting the movie film run backward in your mind. Notice particularly what happens to the forward-time entropy of scattered waves -- it becomes negentropy when you time-reverse the scattered waves. You can recover "order" or "energy" even after it's been scattered in performing work, by phase conjugate reflection. And then you can use it again. Remember, every system is driven, with continual input and output of energy. We are not violating the conservation of energy of a closed system, because we are not talking about a closed system.


Electromagnetic Waves in the Vacuum with Torsion and Spin
http://www22.pair.com/csdc/pdf/helical6.pdf

New time dependent wave solutions to the classical homogeneous Maxwell equations in the vacuum have been found. These waves are not transverse; they exhibit both torsion and spin; they have finite magnetic helicity, A ± B 6= 0, a non-zero Poynting vector, E £ H 6= 0; and a non zero second Poincare invariant, E ± B 6= 0: Two four component rank 3 tensors, constructed on topological grounds in terms of the Fields and Potentials, are used to define the concepts of torsion and Spin, even in domains with plasma currents.

The divergence of the Torsion pseudo vector generates the second Poincare invariant, 2E ± B: The Poincare invariants have closed integrals which are deformation invariants, and therefore can be used to define deformable coherent structures in a plasma. When the second Poincare invariant is non-zero, there can exist solutions that are not time-reversal invariant.


What are virtual photons?

Tunneling-vacuum interaction and time-translation of biomolecules
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Tunneling ... 0191393602

It is generally acknowledged that energy is momentarily borrowed from and returned to the spacetime vacuum during quantum particle tunneling. The uncertainty principle allows these undetectable energy exchanges for sufficiently brief time intervals. A diagram representing proton tunneling-vacuum interactions is shown in Fig. 1. The total particle traveling time from potential well to potential well is greater than zero (1,2), but traveling time within the barrier is zero (3,4).


Keely’s universal scalar logarithmic spiral (gravitational standing wave) requires all three types of waves:

Victor Schauberger and the Logarithmic Spiral
http://www.greatdreams.com/grace/1/3diamagspiral.html

That "the three dimensional vortex called the logarithmic spiral is the shape of water going down a drain, a tornado, a hurricane, a rams horn which, when played as an instrument, has two basic notes separated by a fifth musical note, atomic centers and galactic nebulas, possibly the entire universe".

"Atoms are nothing more than vortical patterns of energy, where a vortex is a three dimensional spiral. Growth patterns of shells and horns are nearly always spiral or vortical in form, possibly growing along some natural energy pattern".

"Synchrotron radiation occurs when electrons spiral into a magnetic field.

That "the logarithmic spiral is based on a cycloid curve and is the exact opposite of the pressure screw used on airplanes and ships".

He believed that there is one universal energy which manifests as dual forces; depending on its polarity-

Pressure or Radiation- this leads to centrifugal motion (from the center, explosive), heat, friction and gravity.

Attraction or Suction- leads to centripital motion (toward the center, implosive), cooling and levitation.

"The term diamagnetism was applied by the Austrian to the attractive or centripital force".

..."energy set in motion in a vortex pattern is self-sustaining once it achieves its critical velocity, which may mean the same thing as becoming resonant with some current of force such as gravity".

Why the water refused to rise in the flow return pipe after it became highly charged with etheric energy (diamagnetism) is still a mystery.

It is possible that once the water atoms became purified and completely saturated with etheric energy they no longer offered any resistance to the flow of etheric energy through them. Thus, there was nothing for the polar flow to 'push' against and sustain the water flow. When the charged energy was drawn off by the collectors, the charge on the atoms remained below a certain threshold and they still offered sufficient resistance to the polar flow to sustain the vortex implosion motion".

This flow with no resistance is exactly the behavior of a superconductor. Notice diamagnetism acts exactly opposite of ferromagnetism or paramagnetism. Also compare diamagnetism to the Magnecrystallic force which is neither positive nor negative).


Magnecrystallic Force
http://www.greatdreams.com/grace/1/7magnetism.html#7.4

Note: This force is neither + nor -. It is found in crystals when the cells attempt to align in the structure of the crystal as building blocks. From this amazing force we can see that it is not like any polarized force, therefore, it is, lets say for now, higher than both, or perhaps more correctly, in the middle of both + and -. The only thing between + and - seems to be neutral. Therefore this force is neutral. Neutral is sometimes called the center, as the place where gravity's 'force' is found, according to Newton.. This fact generates questions.

Is gravity neutral?

Yes it is, completely, dynamically, neutral, hence, John Worrell Keely's statement, "The neutral center" and "time is gravity"


Sympathetic Vibratory Physics
http://www.svpvril.com/Fig_9.html

Fibonacci Spiral. Radial components are an integral part of all waveforms. These manifest according to music which is an organized system of vibration and arithmetic. The center of this spiral is infinite in that it can never be reached mathematically. It is fractal and recursive.


Cosmic Buds
http://www.svpvril.com/Fig_11.1.html

Neutrality is a Complex State of Balanced Energies. Taking the universe as a multidimensional interweave of dynamics it is possible to picture triple waves acting at 90° to each to coincide at a point.


Relative States of Matter & Energy
http://www.svpvril.com/Fig_12.html

There are realms or organizations of matter and energy based on vibratory characteristics.


Then everything is scalable based on the universal scalar logarithmic spiral (gravitational standing wave)

The Nineveh Constant
http://www.earthmatrix.com/platonic/nineveh.htm

The Great Cycle of the Sun, the Platonic Year, or the precession of the equinoxes has been cited at 25,920 years. Suspiciously similar is a kemi historically significant number of 1296000, which is half that fractal number (25920 / 2 = 12960). For such related numbers not be related would surely represent a matter of coincidence. Many of the historically significant numbers are apparently common in origin, although we no longer know what that common origin may have been. Something similar occurs with the Nineveh constant of 2268. At first glance, the Nineveh constant would appear to be unrelated to the other numbers.

However, if we consider the possibility that the reciprocal of seven (.142857) may have been employed in computations concerning the Great Cycle (ca. 26,000 years) that the Sun travels throughout the Universe, then the numbers may become more comprehensible. In order to consider these possible relationships, let us examine once more the concept of pi ( ), the number of times the diameter of a circle may divide into its circumference. Contemporary measurements/computations cite pi as being 3.141592654 (give or take a few thousand decimal places).

This concept of pi represents the ratio of diameter:circumference. However, if the ancients not only dealt with this particular ratio, but also employed the diameter alone and the circumference alone as a constant, as well as, the possible number of divisions (degrees/segments) that a circle may be divided into, then the ancient concept of pi would be extremely more dynamic than our contemporary view.


The "Pythagorean Comma"
http://www.jomarpress.com/nagel/article ... Comma.html

There is found to be a small intervallic difference when determining (A) a pitch seven octaves higher than a given starting pitch, or (B) a pitch twelve perfect fifths higher than the same given starting pitch, when respectively using the pure 2:1 ratio for finding octaves and when using the pure 3:2 ratio for finding perfect fifths. This generally seems "weird" to the beginner used to playing an equal-tempered piano, where "seven octaves higher" or "twelve perfect fifths higher" (than some given starting pitch) produces the exact same result: a pitch that is 84 equal-tempered semitones higher than the given starting pitch. Here is the math that explains this phenomenon, which was first explored by the school of Pythagorus in ancient Greece.
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:11 pm

Avatar, Chriron and the Impact of Planetary Discovery Upon Consciousness And Culture
http://www.robertphoenix.com/content/?p=1682

The oft-controversial Chiron was discovered in 1977. This “asteroplanecomet” is often referred to the wounded healer of the zodiac. It has its own orbit and moves quite slowly through the various signs. Perched between Saturn and Uranus it could be part of the planet, “Fenix” often referred to as “Maldek.” Out of Fenix/Maldek, Chiron was ejected. It’s the largest surviving chuck of the former planet.


Destruction of Maldek
http://www.librarising.com/cosmology/maldek.html

The destruction of Maldek, Malona, Nibiru, The Twelfth Planet, Lucifer, Phaeton, Tiamat, The Original Atlantis (all the same), between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, was the single greatest catastrophic event to occur in the history of this solar system.

From all the sources I've read it appears the great planet Maldek either destroyed itself in a nuclear detonation or was destroyed by huge planet-sized enemy ships (one of which may have been the famed Nibiru).

The debris and impact of the explosion cratered the inner planets and modified their orbits. Mars was particularly hard hit leaving its surface a scarred and barren wasteland. Our Moon is heavily cratered because it was originally Maldek's moon receiving the brunt of the explosion. Another theory circulating is that what was left of Maldek actually became our Earth. Maldek's other moons were also sent hurtling in all directions. It may be that mini-planets like Chiron or Quaoar or even Pluto may have once been moons of Maldek.


Mercury
http://members.wizzards.net/~magyan/Mercury.htm

In pre-modern Astrology Mercury was also given rulership over the sign Virgo and the sixth house. Many Astrologers give it co-rulership with other 'planets', but there is no consensus on the other co-ruler. Some say Chiron, some say Transpluto [called Vulcan, Persephone]. I use the asteroid Vesta as the ruler, on the theory that the planet that formed the asteroid belt [called Maldek] was the natural ruler of Virgo. Vesta was the center of that planet and her symbolism fits Virgo perfectly.


Lost, Fabled and Mythical Planets
http://www.mendhak.com/98-lost-fabled-a ... anets.aspx

Vulcan

Although now popularly known as the planet where Spock hails from, the concept of Vulcan had actually been brought up back in the 1800s as an intra-Mercurial planet, very close to the sun. An interesting bit of trivia though: In the show Star Trek, Vulcan is a planet that orbits either the star "40 Eridani" or "Epsilon Eridani." In 1998, scientists discovered a planet, the size of Jupiter, orbiting Epsilon Eridani. The planet has a highly elliptical orbit though, and is thought to be incapable of sustaining life.

The Legend of Maldek

This is a legend associated with the currently existing asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. The concept of Maldek begins with J. E. Bode, who pointed out a regular pattern in the planets' distance from the Sun. Bode's Law predicted that there should be a planet between Mars and Jupiter. This set off a telescopic hunt for the missing planet, and in 1801 Giuseppe Piazzi discovered Ceres, the largest of the asteroids.

The hypothetical planet which may have once existed in the orbit of the asteroid belt is also referred to as Phaeton.

Nibiru, Marduk and Tiamat

Another hypothesis of the missing planet between Mars and Jupiter comes from the Sumerian Legend of Creation and is related to the Legend of Maldek according to some.

Ancient Sumerian texts indicate that Tiamat (an ancient planet of which Earth is a half of) was struck by a large planet, which moved it into its present orbit that we know today and also created the Earth's moon and the Asteroid Belt. The planet "Marduk" (the Sumerian "Nibiru"), as it came into the solar system on its 3,600-year clockwise (retrograde) elliptical course, struck Tiamat, which was moving in its ordained counterclockwise orbit.

Planet X

By far, Planet X is the single most talked about, researched and debated hypothetical objects in the Solar system.

Towards the end of the 19th century, the discovery of Neptune was used to explain the discrepancies shown in the calculated and observed orbits of Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus. However, even after Neptune's discovery, there were still some discrepancies that remained, as well as discrepancies discovered in Neptune's orbit. It was then speculated that yet another planet existed beyond Neptune.

Nemesis - The Sun's Companion Star

The theory for Nemesis requires a bit of explaining and also involves geology.

To start with, some geologists have noticed that a mass extinction occurs on earth on an average of every 30 million years, as a result of collision with an asteroid or comet. These asteroids and comets are thought to come from the Oort Cloud. The Oort Cloud is a hypothetical collection of 'dormant' comets just outside the Solar System.

Now, many may not know this, but it is a common feature of the Universe to observe binary stars. Binary stars are a pair of stars which orbit each other around a common center point.

Pluto

Pluto was first discovered in 1930. It was a chance discovery, or a fortunate accident. The curiosity for a planet beyond Neptune began with a man named Percival Lowell, who believed that there exists a "Planet X" (not to be confused with Planet X above) somewhere in the outer reaches of our solar system, based on calculations done with the study of the motions of Uranus and Neptune. The International Astronomical Union declared it to be a planet that same year.

Other Notables

In 1975, Charles Kowal at Palomar photographed an object thought to be a new satellite of Jupiter. It was seen several times, but not enough to determine an orbit then lost. We now know that Jupiter has at least 63 moons.

In April 1861 Hermann Goldschmidt announced the discovery of a 9th moon of Saturn, which orbited the planet between Titan and Hyperion. He named that moon Chiron. However the discovery was never confirmed - nobody else ever saw this satellite "Chiron". Later, Pickering discovered what's now considered Saturn's 9th moon, Phoebe, in 1898.

In 1905, Pickering though he had discovered a tenth moon, which he named Themis. According to Pickering, it orbited Saturn between the orbits of Titan and Hyperion in a highly inclined orbit and had a mean distance from Saturn.

In 1966, A. Dollfus discovered another new moon of Saturn. It was named Janus, and orbited Saturn just outside its rings. Now Janus was Saturn's tenth moon.

In 1980, when Saturns rings again were seen edgewise, a flurry of observations discovered a lot of new satellites close to the rings of Saturn. Close to Janus another satellite was discovered, named Epimetheus. Their orbits are very close to each other, and the most interesting aspect of this satellite pair is that they regularly switch orbits with each other! It turned out that the "Janus" discovered in 1966 really were observations of both of these co-orbital satellites. Thus the 'tenth moon of Saturn' discovered in 1966 really turned out to be two different moons!

As of today, Saturn has 49 moons.
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:21 pm

Ophiuchus, The Burning Tower, and The Doppelgänger Universe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NL&hl=nl&v=2AlJYWO_g_w

Ophiuchus, The Burning Tower, and The Doppelgänger Universe
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1 ... 16071.html

Approximately 13,000 years ago the Atlantean's were facing almost identical trials and tribulations as we are today. Their choice: Nuclear Holocaust or human utopia. They were aligning with Ophiuchus - the lost 13th sign of the zodiac - which symbolizes alignment with the center of the Milky Way Galaxy, - and the choice of ascension for mankind. There are radioactive isotopes that look like cluster bombs in northern Scandinavia and the northeastern united states that date back to Atlantean times - and many have theorized that this was an ancient nuclear war between the Atlanteans and rival factions - which ultimately resulted in their annihilation.

Hopefully we decide to alter our Doppelgänger history - to rise above such a catastrophe and end the time loop once and for all.


Ophiuchus
http://seds.org/Maps/Stars_en/Fig/ophiuchus.html

This constellation is unique among all others. It is the only one, which consists of two parts: Serpens Caput, the Head of the Serpent and Serpens Cauda, the Tail of the Serpent. Between both parts lies the constellation of Ophiuchus, the Serpent Holder.

Although Serpens Caput and Serpens Cauda are really separated, they count as one constellation.


Ophiuchus
http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/conste ... ts/oph.gif

Quaoar and Ophiuchus - the Serpent-Bearer
http://www.astronova.nu/quaoarophiuchus.html

Quaoar was discovered in the constellation of Ophiuchus.

Chiron, Ophiuchus and Quaoar form an interesting triangle; handling, bridging and manifesting original intent.

Ophiuchus is a rather sprawling constellation covering a large area, it has a wide reach and this is also true of its influences. Through the ages, its stars have been looked upon as dangerous for mankind, occasioning much mortality by poisoning.

It was through the occurrence of a Nova in the constellation of Ophiuchus that the Aristotelian axiom of the incorruptibility of the Heavens was 'leathally wounded'. The Nova was observed by Johannes Kepler. The Nova is called Kepler's Star, and was observed in Ophiuchus on October 10, 1604.

Ophiuchus is a Knower of the Secrets of Life and is becoming a Master of Life and Death. According to Lucius Annaeus Seneca, the Serpent was once identified with Tiamat, the Sea Monster, who eventually was struck by Marduk (Jupiter). Tiamat represent Chaos from which all other things come. Marduk is the Sun god who eventually killed Tiamat for these reasons, thus bringing a sense of order or control to Creation.

Just as Ophiuchus is the 13th sign, breaking the perfect harmony of the 12 zodiacal signs, so we find an introduction of a disturbing element into a static environment with Ophiuchus.

Ophiuchus is also known as Aesculapius, who was taught the arts of medicine and healing by the Centaur Chiron. Eventually Aesculapius got so good at his craft that he could restore the dead to life. This threatened Pluto, the lord of the underworld, who then complained to Jupiter. Jupiter then sent Aquila, the Eagle to kill Aesculapius with one of his thunderbolts. It is also interesting that the constellation of Ophiuchus was known by the name of 'Toiling' in the early days.

It comes as no surprise that the 5th Ray Master Hilarion numerologically reduces to the number 5. But also, it is interesting to find that Quaoar have been given the asteroid number 50000, which of course also reduces to the number 5. When counting clockwise from the Vernal Point, we actually find that Ophiuchus is the 5th constellation along the ecliptic. When counting in the anti-clockwise direction we find Leo as the 5th zodiacal sign. This is of course the creatively expressive sign par excellence, governing the fires of creation.


INCLUDING OPHIUCHUS IN THE ZODIAC MAKES PISCES THE 13TH SIGN
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=165907

"I would love to have some more detailed information about personality traits, houses it governs, ruling planet, etc."

That was the question that had to be answered after the 1977 discovery of the 'planetoid' named Chiron, progenitor of Asclepius who was commemorated in the sky as Ophiuchus, Serpentarius.

A scheme of 13 rather than 12 Signs fundamentally changes the traditional Zodiac passed down from the era 1500-747 BC, when the "year" amounted to 360 days.

Before 3147 BC the year was 225 days long...
After 3147 BC the year was (I suspect) 240 days long...
After 2349 BC the year went to 260 days...
After 2193 BC... I suspect... that the year changed to 273 days...
After 1492 BC the year changed to 360 days, and the period of the Moon changed to 30 days. This is certain from many sources throughout the world.

The electrical contact by Venus in 1492 BC starts yet another age, the fourth.

Thus, cultural heritage of the 'four epochs' of calendar reckoning eventually provided basis for the concept of the Mayan Suns.


Ophiuchus, Serpens Caput and the Serpent Energy
http://www.in5d.com/ophiuchus-serpens-c ... nergy.html

Ophiuchus is the omitted 13th zodialogical sign. The Mayans placed a great interest in the cosmic serpent, so it seems very peculiar that these two signs are connected, yet never spoken about.

Serpens, or the Serpent, is held by the Serpent Holder, Ophiuchus, and is the only constellation to consist of two separate parts - Serpens Caput (the Head) and Serpens Cauda (the Tail).

Though the stars of this region have been seen as a serpent for thousands of years, their symbolic meaning remains uncertain. It is thought likely that the Serpent and its bearer Ophiuchus are related to the Greek healer-god Asclepius.

The name translates as the serpent's neck, though it is sometimes called Cor Serpentis, for the serpent's heart.
Ophiuchus is named by his relationship to the archetypal being called the Serpent. This is the same Serpent that appears in the Garden of Eden story in the bible and also the same.

The Greek mythological version of Ophiucus tells the story a mortal "lord in waiting" named Aesclepius, the son of the overlord Apollo, and a mortal mother named Coronis who dies in childbirth, who finds the secret of immortality after observing snakes or serpents sharing herbs.

Every year between November 22, and December 25, the Sun passes through the constellation of Ophiuchus, from our perspective here on the Earth.

Ophiuchus is that it is the only constellation in human form that resides in the direction of the center of our Milky Way Galaxy. In galactic astrology, the center of the Galaxy is analogous to the Higher Self or the Jungian Self. It is only by transcending the "wheel of twelve" and allowing energy to spiral, resonant with the number thirteen, that we as humans, access and maintain a conscious connection to our Higher Self.

The last Age of Ophiuchus was from about 4500 BC to 2500 BC. Now that the Serpent Holder has returned, we have the opportunity to "remember" and once again access ancient wisdom from that time and specifically wisdom related to "serpent energy".

Since the late 1930s, all the planets have astrologically passed through Ophiuchus' area of the sky. All but one, that is. The planet Pluto began its journey through Ophiuchus and the Serpent around the start of the 1990s. Pluto will complete its journey through Ophiuchus around 2012, the date many of us recognize as the end of an over 5000-year long Mayan calendar cycle. The Mayan calendar is based on galactic astrology cycles. These are cycles involving the stars, such as the Pleiades.


In The Sign of Orion
http://strdu.com/orion.html

Bucksfanian astrology started one day when I discovered that if you started a new wheel of the Zodiac with the Vernal Equinox, and divided up the Zodiac into 14 equal sectors, instead of the usual 12, something really interesting happened: the new sign of Capricorn started exactly with New Year's Day!

But Bucksfanian astrology is more than an addition of two new signs, and a shift in the beginning and end dates of the various signs. It is also a new interpretion even of the old signs of the Babylonian Zodiac.

The old astrology had a ruling planet, satellite, or star for each sign; since these were 10 altogether, 8 planets plus the Moon and the Sun, and the signs 12, certain planets carried dual signs. Mercury, for example, ruled both the sign of Gemini and the sign of Virgo. Venus, on the other hand, ruled both the sign of Taurus and Libra.

With Bucksfanian Astrology this was eliminated with the addition of 4 new rulers. Here the ruler of Taurus is a large asteroid called Ceres, while the ruler of Virgo is an asteroid called Vesta. The new signs of Orion and Ophiuchus also have distinct rulers, the asteroid called Pallas for Orion, and the asteroid/comet/planetoid Chiron for Ophiuchus. These additions are both rational in light of known astrological symbolism, and add a significant amount of new detail to any natal chart that was not present before.

The sign of Orion also has another characteristic that would be very rational in light of traditional astrology. It has the characteristics of an extension of the traditional 2nd House and also has the characteristics of a house naturally preceding a traditional 3rd House .

The sign of Ophiuchus, the sign that opposes Orion in the Bucksfanian Zodiac, also has characteristics that would be intermediary between a traditional 8th and 9th House.

It is interesting that between the traditional house of raw physicality (sex), the 8th House, and the house of advanced study, the 9th House, there is no intermediate house representing the classical student (9th) of physicality (8th), a house of anatomical study, for instance. Well, the sign of Ophiuchus fills that gap in the logic of traditional astrology quite nicely!
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:33 pm

The destruction of Maldek, Malona, Nibiru, The Twelfth Planet, Lucifer, Phaeton, Tiamat, The Original Atlantis (all the same), between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, was the single greatest catastrophic event to occur in the history of this solar system.

From all the sources I've read it appears the great planet Maldek either destroyed itself in a nuclear detonation or was destroyed by huge planet-sized enemy ships (one of which may have been the famed Nibiru).

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Approximately 13,000 years ago the Atlantean's were facing almost identical trials and tribulations as we are today. Their choice: Nuclear Holocaust or human utopia.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Where do these crazies get the connection of Atlantis and nuclear or any other technology from?
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:53 pm

Creating a Milky Way Panorama on the Computer
http://canopus.physik.uni-potsdam.de/~a ... n_web.html

In the Mayan Creation Epic, THE POPOL VUH, Ophiuchus is the primordial First Father. :D

MILKY WAY CORRELATIONS IN THE POPOL VUH
http://www.siloam.net/jenkins/appendx2.html

The photograph and the constellations can be examined in detail to demonstrate that the Mesoamericans were not hallucinating. They were recording what they saw, so that others could go see for themselves. There is no more perfect way to establish an empirical relationship with other individuals and the cosmos; this is "Sacred Science."

Two things become apparent with the photograph that were not visible with astronomy software. First, the prominence of the galactic center, and the fact that it could easily be identified with the entrance/exit a cosmic birth canal through a cosmic cervix. Second, the relationship of Ophiuchus to the "celestial" image of birth is unmistakable. Ophiuchus can be seen on the photograph, standing with one leg on the cosmic cervix, and drawing the umbilical cord (Serpens) out through the birth canal at the "dark rift," where Quetzalcoatl waits to be reborn.

First Father: The "one legged" aspect of Ophiuchus has long been a concern of research. Now, with the photographic evidence it is clear that the primordial First Father of the Maya was symbolized in the birth process which surrounds Ophiuchus at the galactic center. He can be visualized as being photographed in the cosmic birth process (creation) as if it were a single frame of an eternal moving film. On his one leg, he swirls the hurricane of the cosmos, and the result is history (his story).

When the material photographic evidence is enhanced by the proper dot-to-dot connections, the stele on the cover of Maya Cosmogenesis 2012 showing First Father coming out of the mouth of First Mother is a clear representation of what is shown in the stars at the center of the galaxy. The material presence of the Cosmic Mother does not reveal the intent of the Cosmic Father, until some rational order is added to the apparent randomness of the celestial images. This is the birth moment of rationality, i.e., First Father. That rational order is the "Heart of the Sky" while the material essence is the "Heart of the Earth."

The next event of importance is the establishment of the "Daykeepers," Xmucane (Virgo) at the top of the galactic disk, and Xpiyacoc (Sculptor) at the bottom of the galactic disk.

They represent the axis through the galactic (cosmic) plane, and via precession, they mark time. They give birth to Hun Hunahpu and Seven Hunahpu, (Ophiuchus and Sagittarius), who give birth to Hunahpu and Xbalanque (Gemini, Auriga and Perseus), with the help of a Xibalban mother by the name of Blood Moon (Andromeda). The arms of Hun Hunahpu and his son Hunahpu mark the ecliptic and galactic intersections of the cosmic world axis. The Sun Boat (Argo Navis) of the Maize God (Bootes) and the skull (Cepheus) in the cosmic tree define the third axis of the galaxy at right angles to the intersection axis and to the central axis. The Maya creation story describes the three orthogonal axes of the galaxy, and it provides the Maya people with a reference for time and space in the whole universe as perceived from earth; as above, so below.

First Mother: All in all, the Popol Vuh is one of the top five creation stories ever comprehended by humanity. It stands on a par with the Rig Veda, the Egyptian Book of the Dead, Genesis, and the Gospels. Since it is the one creation story that has clear material markers, it needs to be better understood by billions of people. If the Maya astronomer-priests were correct about the rebirth of First Father, and there is no longer any reason for doubt, then in 2012, the human world ball in this cosmic ball court will have the opportunity to begin the process of being born again.

This is not a trivial accomplishment by any stretch of the imagination. But, even if humanity does not open its eyes to be enlightened by the cosmic truth, the rebirth of the cosmos will happen anyway. We cannot stop it by denial; we can only prevent ourselves and our children from understanding our ancestors. The Popol Vuh recommends that we listen to First Mother's voice, and find the Son of First Father's intent. It is the reasonable thing to do, and there could not be a better time to do it.


TRANSCENDENCE IN MAYAN MYTHOLOGY
http://www.siloam.net/jenkins/5thsun4.html

Let us take a brief moment to look into the meaning of the ritual ball game of the Maya, and the Mesoamericans, in general. Ball courts were constructed as part of the Mesoamerican ritual practically from the beginning. Since these were sacred rituals, we must assume that there is a metaphysical meaning in the ball game which is being conveyed.


The Birth of Monotheism, Semitic People Sojourn to Egypt
http://www.siloam.net/members.aol.com/r ... rs002a.htm

In Coming Forth by Day at Ares Vallis the concept of the rising Earth and the galactic centrality of the cosmos was presented. Egypt, and nearly all of the so called Pagan religions or cults, identified reality as that place amongst the stars, for which the galaxy was the central and most dominant member. Everything within the cosmos could be represented by this "Horus of Two Horizons," which the Egyptians called Ra-Heru-Khuti and Tem-Heru-Khuti.

Ra resided in the asterism where the equinoxes and solstices arose from the cloud of the Milky Way at Ophiuchus. Tem was the last asterism before these seasonal markers dropped into the Milky Way. Two great circles which cross at the north and south poles pass through the two equinoxes and the two solstices. These circles are defined as the colure of the equinoxes and the colure of the solstices. They are the two most important great circles of the celestial sphere, for they identify the seasons and are the primary measure of time in the cosmos. When the colure rise above the Milky Way at Ohpiuchus, that is a moment of creation and the coming forth by day. When the colure drop to the Milky Way, that is the evening and the end of day. Below the Milky Way is the region of night, darkness, and the Duat of Osiris.

All of the greatest theologies ever developed in the West have utilized the separation of night and day implied by the movement of the colure through the horizons of the Milky Way to establish the spirit of the cosmos. In the midst of the disk of the galaxy there is a central axis, which was represented theologically in Egypt by the pillar of Osiris. Here was the point where the colure passed through the lowest location on the ecliptic path relative to the galactic disk. This is precisely where the vernal equinox was on the day the biomass on Earth established ambulatory control of a creation which it had placed on the soils of Ares Vallis on the fourth rock from the sun.
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby lizzie » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:59 pm

The Mithras Constellation
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/jour ... 1&SRETRY=0

Assuming that the figures of the central icon of the Mithraic cult - the scene of tauroctony (bull slaying) - represent equatorial constellations at the time when the spring equinox was placed somewhere between Taurus and Aries, it is difficult to explain why some equatorial constellations (Orion and Libra) were not included in the Mithraic icons A simulation of the sky at the times in which the spring equinox was in the constellation of Taurus, only a small area of spring equinox positions permits to exclude these two constellations, with all other representations of equatorial constellations (Taurus, Canis Minor, Hydra, Crater, Corvus, Scorpio) included. These positions of the spring equinox occurred at the beginning of the age of Taurus, and included Gemini as an equatorial constellation. Two of the main figures in the Mithraic icons are two identical figures, usually represented on the each side of the bull, wearing phrygian caps and holding torches. Their names, Cautes and Cautopates, and their looks may indicate that they represent the constellation of Gemini. In that case the main icon of Mithraic religion could represent an event that happened around 4000 BC, when the spring equinox entered the constellation of Taurus. Also, this position of equator contains Perseus as an equatorial constellation. Ulansey suggested that the god Mithras is identified with the constellation Perseus. In that case, all figures in the main scene would be equatorial constellations.


Is Mithras the Sun's "dark star" twin?
viewtopic.php?f=10&p=35722&sid=3f3ac23e8caddef6db93c97adb41d6e0#p35384

For many years now I’ve concurred with Andy Lloyd that the Dark Star, at perihelion, takes on a wing-like appearance of its own. According to my research, this can also be said with the Roman god Mithras who also adorned a wing-like appearance when battling his counterpart Sol. So with this context in mind, is it possible that Mithras is actually our binary companion?


Mithras and the Hypecosmic Sun
http://www.well.com/~davidu/hypercosmic.html

We see here, of course, a striking parallel with the Mithraic evidence in which we also find two suns, one being Helios the sun-god (who is always distinguished from Mithras in the iconography) and the other being Mithras in his role as the "unconquered sun."

On the basis of my explanation of Mithras as the personification of the force responsible for the precession of the equinoxes this striking parallel becomes readily explicable. For as we have seen, the "hypercosmic sun" of the Platonists is located beyond the sphere of the fixed stars, in Plato's hyperouranios topos. But if my theory about Mithras is correct (namely, that he was the personification of the force responsible for the precession of the equinoxes) it follows that Mithras--as an entity capable of moving the entire cosmic sphere and therefore of necessity being outside that sphere--must have been understood as a being whose proper location was in precisely that same "hypercosmic realm" where the Platonists imagined their "hypercosmic sun" to exist.


The road not taken
http://www.philipcoppens.com/mithras.html

In essence, Mithraism was centred on the worship of the saviour god Mithras mainly expressed through the image of a man slaying a bull.

David Ulansey has proposed that the tauroctony is a symbolic representation of the constellations. This is partially based on the observation that some depictions from Mithras show him wearing a cape that in some examples can be seen to have the starry sky as its inside lining. Ulansey thus identifies Mithras with Perseus, whose constellation is indeed above that of the bull. Perseus was the Greek hero who slew the monster Medusa, whose gaze was said to be able to turn men into stone. His argument is strengthened as on several depictions recovered from Mithraea, a serpent, a scorpion, a dog, and a raven are also present, each of which has a stellar equivalent. There is also a famous bronze image of Mithras, showing him emerging from an egg-shaped zodiac ring, in what has often been described as a “star gate”. There are other references and depictions to Mithras as being the turner of the zodiac.

If we read what the ancient writers had to say on the subject, we note that Origen wrote that “Celsus also describes some Persian mysteries, where he says: These truths are obscurely represented by the teaching of the Persians and by the mystery of Mithras which is of Persian origin. For in the latter there is a symbol of the two orbits of heaven, the one being that of the fixed stars and the other that assigned to the planets, and of the soul’s passage through these. The symbol is this. There is a ladder with seven gates and at its top an eighth gate.” Celsus’ statement therefore seems to confirm the stellar nature of the mythology, and adds that it was a symbol of the soul’s passage to “an eighth gate”.

If Celsus is correct, Mihraism taught a doctrine that seemed to explain the progression of the soul through various stages, in order to reach “the eighth gate”. Traditionally, the seven steps (often linked with a ladder) represented the planetary orbits, with the eight orbit representing Mankind leaving this “reality” and enter another, divine realm, which was often seen as the reunification of the soul with God.

As we know that the cult had an initiation, what did it involve? The Rite is thought to re-enact what has come to be called the “Water Miracle”, in which Mithras fires a bolt into a rock, and from the rock spouts water.

All members were apparently expected to progress through the first four ranks, while only a few would go on to the three higher ranks. The seven ranks were: Corax (raven), Nymphus (bridegroom), Miles (soldier), Leo (lion), Perses (Persian), Heliodromus (sun-courier) and Pater (father). When inducted into the degree of Leo, the initiate was purified with honey, and baptised, not with water, but with fire. This may be linked with the Persian fire magic of Perseus which was alluded to before. After this second baptism, initiates were considered "participants” and they received the sacrament of bread and wine commemorating Mithras’ banquet, an event that many have seen as a clear parallel with the Last Supper, as well as the banquet in which Osiris was slain by Seth.

According to Martin A. Larson in “The Story of Christian Origins” Mithraism and Christianity derived from the same sources, originally from the saviour cult of Osiris. But in the final analysis, Mithraism and Christianity are very distinct, even in origin.

Still, the constellations common in the sky from about 4000 BC to 2000 BC were indeed Taurus the Bull, Canis Minor the Dog, Hydra the Snake, Corvus the Raven and Scorpio the Scorpion. Further support for this theory is the presence of a lion and a cup in some depictions of the tauroctony: Leo (a lion) and Aquarius (the cup-bearer) were the constellations seen as the northernmost (summer solstice) and southernmost (winter solstice) positions in the sky during the age of Taurus.

The tauroctony is the ritual slaying of a bull. In ancient Egypt, the sign of a new era was symbolised by the Apis Bull, who was the subject of an entire cult. We know that in 137 AD, when one Sirius year (of 1460 solar years) came to an end,

Were the constellations linked with mankind’s ascent through the heavens, to the “eight gate”? There is the so-called Mithras Liturgy, a section of a Greek magical papyrus which says of itself that it is a revelation granted by the great god Helios Mithras.

Dieterich was convinced that the ritual spelled out the liturgy for the ascent and immortalization of the soul. The Liturgy is a document sprinkled with astrology and magic and emphasizing the ecstatic ascent of the individual soul. Intriguingly, the magical codex, of which the Mithras Liturgy forms lines 475 to 834, was apparently collected for use in the working library of an Egyptian magician.

The text of the Mithras Liturgy is composed of two main parts: a liturgical mystery of ascent (lines 475-750), followed by a set of magical instructions (lines 750-834).

After the brief introduction (lines 475- 485), the mystery of ascent presents the seven liturgical stages for the soul's ecstatic journey: the soul thus encounters the four elements (lines 485-537), in their generative and regenerative aspects; the lower powers of the air (lines 537-585), including the winds, bolts of thunder and lightning, and meteors; the god Aion and the Aionic powers (lines 585-628) as planetary guardians – gatekeepers – of the heavenly doors. Then it is on to Helios (lines 628-657), young and fiery; the seven Fates (lines 657-672) and, next, the seven Pole-Lords (lines 673-692), both groups from the region of the fixed stars, and both depicted in Egyptian fashion. Finally, there is the highest God (lines 692-724), portrayed as Mithras himself.

After the conclusion (lines 724-750) to the mystery of ascent, the magical instructions include a scarab ceremony of the sun (lines 750-798), which provide instructions for obtaining the kentritis herb and the fashioning of amulets (lines 798-830). The Liturgy also includes breathing techniques (lines 537-538: drawing in breath from the rays. The Hermetica was the third important player in the “domination game” that also involved Mithraism and Christianity and common themes and osmosis are to be expected.
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby mague » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:24 pm

lizzie wrote:LOL. You are right, of course. They really don’t know. What causes the “phase changes” of the aether? What causes the “wave/particle” duality? Is it a combination of transverse, longitudinal and surface waves? What are torsion waves or gravity waves? What are time reverse waves? There are lots of interesting theories, however.

What is the Aether?
http://www.encyclopedianomadica.org/English/aether.php


What causes it ? I tend to think Brahma.

At a certain point i tend to think we shouldnt care about the "how does it work". Rather about how to live with it.

There are two things the creator god(s) always got pissed about. Either the humans couldnt recognize them or they didnt reproduce. The creation gave us sweetwater. It is not that important to know about H and O. It is much more important to know that some lemon juice or a few leaves of tea turn it into a poem to the creator(s).
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:48 am

In that case the main icon of Mithraic religion could represent an event that happened around 4000 BC
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/jour ... 1&SRETRY=0
4000 BCE is about 4,000 years before the origin of Mithraism.

According to my research, this can also be said with the Roman god Mithras who also adorned a wing-like appearance when battling his counterpart Sol.
viewtopic.php?f=10&p=35722&sid=3f3ac23e8caddef6db93c97adb41d6e0#p35384
Mithras does not battle Sol. '[A}dorned a wing-like appearance' is piss-poor English.

For as we have seen, the "hypercosmic sun" of the Platonists is located beyond the sphere of the fixed stars, in Plato's hyperouranios topos.
http://www.well.com/~davidu/hypercosmic.html
The hypercosmic Sun is beyond the physical unviverse.

In essence, Mithraism was centred on the worship of the saviour god Mithras mainly expressed through the image of a man slaying a bull.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/mithras.html
That is pure supposition born of ignorance. Also, the bull is being sacrificed not slain.

There is also a famous bronze image of Mithras, showing him emerging from an egg-shaped zodiac ring, in what has often been described as a “star gate”.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/mithras.html
Called a 'stargate'? By who?

If we read what the ancient writers had to say on the subject, we note that Origen wrote that “Celsus also describes some Persian mysteries, where he says: These truths are obscurely represented by the teaching of the Persians and by the mystery of Mithras which is of Persian origin. For in the latter there is a symbol of the two orbits of heaven, the one being that of the fixed stars and the other that assigned to the planets, and of the soul’s passage through these. The symbol is this. There is a ladder with seven gates and at its top an eighth gate.” Celsus’ statement therefore seems to confirm the stellar nature of the mythology, and adds that it was a symbol of the soul’s passage to “an eighth gate”.

If Celsus is correct, Mihraism taught a doctrine that seemed to explain the progression of the soul through various stages, in order to reach “the eighth gate”. Traditionally, the seven steps (often linked with a ladder) represented the planetary orbits, with the eight orbit representing Mankind leaving this “reality” and enter another, divine realm, which was often seen as the reunification of the soul with God.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/mithras.html
Celsius is indeed correct. See also Inana's Descent into the Underworld for another example, although it can be found in virtually every other mythology and religion in one form or other.

'Nymphus' is a made-up word which means male bride.
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby mague » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:18 am

Grey Cloud wrote:
There is also a famous bronze image of Mithras, showing him emerging from an egg-shaped zodiac ring, in what has often been described as a “star gate”.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/mithras.html
Called a 'stargate'? By who?


I have not read the quoted site.

"Stargate" is a neo-tech esoteric term. It is not necessarily an interstellar transportation device.

It is a very ancient concept of addressing.

This site www.thunderbolds.info translates to 67.222.49.17, which is an absolute address within a virtual cosmos. Without the IP you wont reach the site and its informations. The word www.thunderbolds.info is just a word or picture (if you think in glyphs) for a certain position.

To hail the sun is easy, just face the big bright thing and hail it. It is more difficult to "address" other positions. The ancient addressing was based on initiation which left an emo-memory fragment in you. This emo-memory fragment was used by the ancient seer to navigate the beyond-space.

How should Heras or Athenes priestess be able to contact them without knowing their address ? You need this emo-memory to build a resonance. Those picture-sound-word memories have been one of the most esoteric and hermetic secrets of all. Similar to the cellphone number of some celebrities ;)

This is what lately is called stargate by seer and those who channel. Some of them are quite ok at what they do. Some.. not to many ;)
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby Grey Cloud » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:51 am

Thanks Mague, that was a most instructive insight.
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby lizzie » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:15 pm

God’s Longitude
http://www.hermetic.ch/cal_stud/gods_longitude.htm

John Dee was an advisor to Queen Elizabeth I, in particular, on the reform of the calendar. Dee did not in fact propose the adoption of a modified form of the Gregorian Calendar (with the omission of 11 days instead of the Pope's 10 days) but actually intended a quite different and superior calendar reform — an Elizabethan calendar with a 33-year cycle (based on the life of Jesus) including eight leap years and with the spring equinox always occurring on March 21.

In the Gregorian Calendar a year whose year number is divisible by 4 is a leap year unless it is divisible by 100 but not by 400 (in which case it is not a leap year). Thus the years 1600 and 2000 are leap years, but 1700, 1800, 1900 and 2100 are not.

In the calendar proposed by John Dee the rule for which years within a 33-year cycle are leap years is: A year is a leap year if (and only if) the remainder, when the year number is divided by 33, is non-zero and is an exact multiple of 4. The Dee Calendar, and its variant, the Dee-Cecil Calendar, is discussed in more detail in The Dee-Cecil Calendar and its Date Conversion Algorithms.

Simon Cassidy has proposed that John Dee had a secret plan for the implementation of his calendar, one which (a) would have confounded the Catholic calendar reform (if implemented) and (b) did catalyse the first attempts at a trans-oceanic British Empire under the Protestant monarchs Queen Elizabeth I and James I.

The primary motivation for the Gregorian calendar reform was that the date of Easter was slowly slipping (reaching about ten or eleven days by the 16th C.) towards summer. This date is sometimes loosely defined as the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring (a.k.a. vernal) equinox (which, as astronomer Duncan Steel has stated, implies that Easter can occur any time between March 22 and April 25).

Simon Cassidy has stated (private communication):

The actual rule in both the Gregorian and Julian calendars is that Easter is the first Sunday after the first ecclesiastical full moon day, on or after the date of March 21st (the ecclesiastical spring equinox).

The ecclesiastical full moons are determined by the Golden number of the year and in the Gregorian calendar also by the epact shifts of all the Golden number dates (which shifts occur only in certain century years). No one really knows whether the Nicene fathers got any further than deciding that all Christians had to obey the same rule (without specifying an actual rule, other than the probable introduction of the Sunday endpoint).

Those who like to say the rule is "the first Sunday after the first ecclesiastical full moon day, after the date of March 20th" are forgetting that the Church documents actually state the date of the church's equinox as the 21st of March (as King Phillip II of Spain emphasized to the Pope, Gregory XIII, prior to his reform).

Thus the Gregorian calendar reform was flawed at its inception, since it did not result in the vernal equinox always occurring on March 21 in the new calendar, contrary to the presumed wishes of the Nicene fathers [at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD] --an embarrassment that presumably the Church preferred to remain silent about. (After the official introduction of the Gregorian Calendar in 1582 the vernal equinox stayed either on March 20 or 21 until 1652 (British time) or 1656 (Italian time), when it occurred on March 19.)

The vernal equinox cannot always occur on March 21 in the Gregorian Calendar (or on any single date) because in that calendar it is possible to have a leap year followed by seven non-leap years, e.g., 1796 (a leap year) followed by the years 1797-1803 (since 1800 was not a leap year). The true length of the seasonal year is about 6 hours longer than 365 days, so the vernal equinox occurs about 6 hours later from year to year. Over a period of seven years the last vernal equinox will occur about 42 hours later than the first, unless the date of the vernal equinox is made to be earlier by the insertion of an extra day in the preceding February. But if those seven years are all non-leap years, then this adjustment will not occur, so the 42 hours will always span at least two calendar dates.
The time-of-day of the vernal equinox moves forward by about six hours each year, so in four years it moves forward by about 24 hours. Actually it always moves forward by less than 24 hours.

What follows is a heuristic argument to show that, under certain conditions, the vernal equinox could always occur (at least, within a certain range of years) on the same date in the Dee Calendar.

A 33-year cycle in the Dee Calendar consists of seven 4-year periods (years 1-4, 5-8, etc.) in which the 4th year is a leap year, followed by a 5-year period (29-33) in which the 4th year (the 32nd year of the cycle) is a leap year.

Consider a 4-year period. Consider a day (more exactly, a nychthemeron) as divided into quarters (midnight to 6 a.m., etc.). If in the 1st year the vernal equinox occurs in the 2nd quarter (6 a.m. to noon) then it will usually (though not always) occur in the 3rd quarter in the 2nd year, in the 4th quarter in the 3rd year, and in the 1st quarter in the 4th year. Since the 4th year is a leap year, the date of the vernal equinox remains the same as for the 1st year.

The vernal equinox in the following year, which is the 1st year of the next 4- or 5-year period, occurs in the 2nd quarter, and so has the same date as the preceding four years.

Consider now the final 5-year period. If in the 1st year the vernal equinox occurs at about 7 a.m. then in the 2nd year it will occur about 1 pm., in the 3rd year about 7 p.m., and in the 4th year about 1 a.m. So the date of the vernal equinox in that year remains the same as for the 1st year because the 4th year is a leap year. Then in the 5th year the vernal equinox occurs about 7 a.m., on the same date as in the previous year.

Note, however, that the time-of-day of any event (such as the vernal equinox) is relative to local midnight, and local midnight depends on the place on Earth (more exactly, the longitude) where one is. So it may be that for most longitudes the assumptions are never fulfilled. But in fact for certain periods there is a longitude where the vernal equinox always occurs at just the right times of day, so that it always occurs on March 21 in the Dee Calendar.

The 33-year leap-day cycle of Dee's calendar accords with, and repeats indefinitely, the actual leap-days in the traditional lifetime of Jesus (years 1-33 AD). Dee (according to Simon Cassidy) believed that the obvious superiority of his calendar over the Gregorian would so much appeal to Christians everywhere that they would abandon the Gregorian reform in favor of his calendar, which was to be promulgated under the auspices of the Protestant Queen, Elizabeth I.

In his Stonehenge Speaks Simon Cassidy writes that:

the adoption of the mathematically simplest, and most Christian, implementation of the 33-year cycle would logically specify the existence of a meridian or narrow band of longitudes within which, and only within which, the Nicene edict could stay correct. This would probably have come to be seen as God's chosen meridian by all Churches that recognised the Nicene council.

Because of this interest of Elizabeth in colonizing North America Duncan Steel considers Dee's calendar to be the most important invention in the last 2000 years.

Bill Napier's novel Shattered Icon (2003, Headline, UK; published in the US as Splintered Icon and in Germany as Der 77. Grad) is partly a semi-fictional account of the voyage to establish the colony in Virginia and the reason for it, and is partly set in the present, where one of the main characters (after the plot is explained to him) says:

OK, I get it. The English establish a colony on the seventy-seven degree meridian, operating in secret. Once they've established it, they announce the Dee calendar to the world. A calendar that paces the life of Jesus, that's more true to the Biblical Easter, that holds more closely to the seasons. Irresistible! England's influence with other Protestant nations is increased, and the Antichrist, in the form of the Pope, is stuck flogging a second-rate ecclesiastical calendar which they'd only just introduced. Game, set and match to the Protestants. Quite a lad was our John Dee.


STONEHENGE SPEAKS: AN OPEN LETTER TO UMBERTO ECO
http://www.hermetic.ch/cal_stud/cassidy/shspk1zc.pdf

Thus the adoption of the mathematically simplest, and most Christian, implementation of the 33-year cycle would logically specify the existence of a meridian or narrow band of longitudes within which, and only within which, the Nicene edict could stay correct. This would probably have come to be seen as God’s chosen meridian by all Churches that recognised the Nicene council

I hypothesize that this geographical consequence of the 33-year cycle may have, paradoxically, figured in a decision to suppress it and to adopt the less accurate alternative. The issue of achieving Nicene perfection cannot arise in the adopted solution of Clavius because it allows the equinox to occur at any time within about 53 calendar hours, even without regard to longitude differences, and thus the geographical issue can be ignored, since the Nicene equinox tradition cannot be fulfilled anywhere.

My grounds for supposing there was active suppression are many, but I will here mention only my search in the works of J.J. Scaliger, where I find consistent ention of Scaliger’s receipt of correspondence, from the Syrian patriarch Na’amat allah, concerning Arabic solar parameters, Persian solar calendars and even Omar Khayyam’s involvement in a short-lived calendar reform, but no mention of the 33-year cycle. Whether Scaliger himself suppressed information r the Syrian patriarch consciously withheld it from a Protestant scholar in deference to his Roman Catholic hosts, or was censored by his Vatican-appointed translator, is not clear to me as yet, since I currently lack the resources to continue the necessary inquiries at the Vatican and other Italian libraries.

Perhaps a conservative desire to retain as many Julian-calendar features as possible, a perceived mathematical complexity in a 33-year system, or simple bureaucratic inertia (Clavius may have heard from the Syrian after Gregory’s preliminary calendar commission had already canvassed Catholic princes with he Lilius\Pitatus system) can explain Clavius’ decision to ignore the mathematical, astronomical and religious superiority of the Syrian’s proposal, without regard to any hypothetical geographical consequences). Moreover any reasons Clavius had for suppressing knowledge of an alternate method of alendar reform, may just revolve around a desire for conformity to Pope Gregory’s decree, among as many Christian nations as possible, and specifically
a desire to prevent any serious rival Protestant calendar reform.

But, if we examine Vatican relations with the one European government that got
closest to immediately implementing an alternative reform (the English government of Queen Elizabeth I) and in particular, Jesuit relations with the intellectual party within that government (John Dee, Sir Walter Raleigh and the so-called “school of night”) responsible for proposing that rival calendar reform and for initiating the first British attempts at colonisation of America, we find much that makes a great deal of sense when interpreted in the light of the geographical consequences of the perfect Christian 33-year calendar.

My initial hypothesis, which has so far withstood all falsification tests that I have been able to bring to bear upon it, was, and still is, that “John Dee was involved in a plot to secretly break the Spanish monopoly on the Christian calendrical longitude”. I say secretly, because those anti-Hapsburg or Protestant powers arrayed against King Phillip, would not have approved of anyone discussing the value of what Spain (perhaps unwittingly) possessed; at least not until Spain was no longer the sole possessor of this potential treasure.

I bring up “secrets” of the “school of night” at the risk of dabbling in the sort of wild conspiracy theories, parodied in your novel “Foucault’s pendulum”, because it is in the unpublished manuscripts of Thomas Harriot (Raleigh’s other mathematical magus, a friend and probable pupil of Dee’s, and usually identified as the “conjuror” of Raleigh’s “school of atheism” attacked in Jesuit broadsides) that I found my first objective confirmation of the “zero-longitude school-of night hypothesis”. I enclose a copy of my proposal to the Bodleian library and, below, examples of Harriot’s notes subsequently discovered there.

My hypothesis suggests that Clavius would have promoted findings that 4 A.D. was not really a leap year, because he would then be better able to deny the“ historical reality” of any 33-year Jesus-cycle in a rival calendar. In this regard, I wish to see Clavius’ correspondence (published in 1992 by the University of Pisa, eds. Baldini and Napolitani) especially his correspondence with John Deckers. I am looking for an Italian collaborator who is interested in my research concerning the following topics at the Protestant end of things:

Dee’s strange behaviour; his relations with Sidney, Davis, Walsingham, the Gilberts; Raleigh and Elizabeth; and the evidence in his 1583 library catalog. Dee as “the Dog that Didn’t bark”; Diplomacy and espionage; Dee in Germany, Kelley and the Jesuits;

The nascent “Protestant league;” the landgrave of Hesse, Fredrick of Denmark and the financing of Brahe; his mural quadrant, the accuracy of solar altitudes attainable in the 1580’s and the significance of Danish Iceland (Kepler’s Somnium). Harriot vs. Brahe; parallax, refraction and “fixing” the calendrical longitude.

The lunar eclipse of 1584, spring clocks in Wingandacoa and the mystery of the two English counterparts of Manteo and Winchese.

Harriot and White’s map showing their accurate survey of Wingandacoa, the Bahamas and the line of longitude connecting them. This line and the intent to plant “50 miles into the main; Their failure and the continuing secrecy; White and Walsingham.

Marlowe and the “school of night”, Raleigh as Tamberlaine dropping his “perpendicular”, Dee as Faust (the “conjurer and calendar-maker”), the rescue of Bruno and, Mephistopheles offer of secrets and the Pope’s year length.

Jesuit jabs, atheist scandal, Marlowe’s murder, the ensuing hiatus and the Jacobean sequel.
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Unread postby lizzie » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:16 am

The Cosmic Axis, Mill Peg and the Whirlpool

Hamlet's Mill: an Essay on Myth and the Frame of Time
http://www.ocaptain.org/hamletsmill/lib ... mtext.html

Incredibly enough I have found a stack of evidence that seems to support this bizarre idea. Most of it is taken from the epic work on mythology by De Santillana and Von Dechend, called "Hamlet’s Mill". The theme of the book is that the myth is essentially cosmological; that the ancients passed on complex cosmological information in the form of stories about the gods and ancestors. One of the recurring themes is the knowledge of the Precession of the Equinoxes. Shakespeare’s Hamlet was based on Scandinavian mythology about Amlodhi, (or Frodhi), who was the owner of a mill. When an enemy killed Hamlet and stole the mill, he put it on a ship, the mill broke, and the ship sank, causing a permanent whirlpool. After comparison with other mythology, the authors concluded that this is a remnant of the story of the cosmic collision that caused the tilt in the Earth s axis (the obliquity of the ecliptic), which gives rise to our seasons and also the 26,000 year cycle of precession. The massive interweave of evidence is very convincing, even down to the names some cultures still use for the polar stars e.g. Mill-peg and The hole of the Mill peg). However, this may only be part of the story, as further mythological comparison reveals.

In the Indonesian Rama epic, when Rama is about to shoot his magic arrow into the sea, a lady arises from the sea to warn him that "right here was a hole in the ocean leading to the underworld, and who informs him that the water in that hole was called the Water of Life." This parallels the story from Northwest America, of the maiden who shoots her arrow into the "navel of the waters which was a vast whirlpool", thus winning fire.

An old Iranian story tells how the star Tishtriya soars like an arrow to Lake Vurukasha, causing the centre to surge up and flood. Tishtriya is the name for Sirius, which shares another name - Tira - with Mercury, who was Hermes, the messenger of the gods to the Greeks, and the father of Pan.

The Babylonian name for Sirius was KAK. SI. Dl., which means "arrow", and the Sumerians, Babylonians, Egyptians, and Chinese all had a constellation built from stars of Argo and Canis Major, which resembled a bow and arrow, in which Sirius was variously either the tip of the arrow or the target.

In a Babylonian astronomical text is the statement that "the Bow-star is the Ishtar of Elam, daughter of Enlil", and elsewhere that Ishtar is she who stirs up the apsu (water before Ea (Lord of the Underworld). In fact, Ishtar was a goddess who descended to the underworld and rose again, just as Persephone did, and Inanna, the Sumerian goddess did, before her.

As well as being a name for Sirius, Ishtar is also a name of the planet Venus, who was the Roman goddess of love just as Jesus, who preached love, descended to hell and rose again.

However, the fish, as we shall see, defines the celestial position of the gate to the underworld. We have already found a connection between Jesus’ mother Mary and Isis, in chapter 2, where the cult of Sara the Egyptian and the Black Madonnas were remnants of a European Isis cult connected with Sirius. As Stella Maris, St. Mary Star of the Sea, she is described by one commentator as "a celestial passageway"

In Teutonic mythology, Agni, the "child of the waters", comes "from the confluence of the rivers like Gibil, but is also born in the "highest sky". Agni is connected with both Sirius and Neptune.

Nibiru, which Sitchin called "the Planet of the Crossing", means "ferry, ferryman, ford", according to Santillana and Von Dechend. This connects it with the later Greek concept of the dead paying the ferryman to get across the river Styx to meet Cerberus, the three-headed dog. It has been correlated to Jupiter, like Marduk, by various "experts", also to Canopus, the North pole, the summer solstice, but perhaps most significantly, a comet!

Sitchin has equated the Babylonian god Anu with the planet Uranus. It is interesting, then, that Marduk is said to have entered the "Way of Anu", and that the god Marduk claimed the "Anu-ship" for himself. If the Way of Anu is the orbital plane of Uranus, rather than "a band, accompanying the equator" as claimed by some experts, maybe the "stargate" is located in that plane. Alternatively, the Way of Anu could be a name for the celestial passageway itself, situated in the vicinity of Uranus.

The Sumerian name for the constellation marking the gateway to "Paradise" was l-Iku which is the Pegasus-square. It lies between the two fish of the Pisces constellation. This word Iku, was a fundamental field measure, and was taken by Unqnad (1923) to represent Paradise as the primordial field. This is reminiscent of the Elysian fields of the Greeks, which were near the Underworld, though not part of Hades’ dominion (near Pluto, but not in its orbital plane?) Moreover, an iku is about 3,600 square metres, and 3,600 is the orbital period claimed by Sitchin for Nibiru. 1-Iku was also the name of the Temple of Marduk in Babylon.

The ark of Utnapishtim was a cube of floor-space one iku, and "since the ark disappeared there was a stone in its place which was called foundation stone". This foundation stone covered the abyss, or Apsu. Could this "stone" be Uranus? We are told that "l-Iku, the Pegasus-square is called the "habitation of the deity Ea, the leader of the stars of Anu"", and that "Marduk lies with his feet within Ea". Since Sitchin says that Ea represents Neptune, if Marduk’s feet are in Neptune, is his head in Uranus?

If the meaning of all this is, that when a line is projected from Earth to Pegasus, at a point between the orbital planes of Neptune and Uranus, will be found the whirlpool, then it doesn’t quite work, as the ecliptic, or path which the planets take across the sky passes between the two fish of Pisces, but below Pegasus. So, either the whirlpool is not actually in Pegasus, but near it, between the fish, at a point between the orbital planes of Uranus and Neptune; or the whirlpool is at a point along the projected line to Pegasus, but at a distance from the Earth between the distances of Uranus and Neptune.

Adrian Gilbert claims that the original version of the Styx was the Milky Way, since the Egyptians believed that Paradise was located in Orion, and that the ritual bringing of a dead body across the Nile for a ceremony in the pyramid, represented the soul’s journey across the Milky Way to Orion. However, Sirius is also implicated here, since the shaft in the King’s Chamber pointed to Orion, but the shaft in the Queens Chamber pointed to Sirius, and it is this shaft that leads to the Secret Chamber.


Amlodhi the Titan and His Spinning Top
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/hamle ... mill09.htm

The starting place is Greece. Cleomedes (c. A.D. 150), speaking of the northern latitudes, states: "The heavens there turn around in the way a millstone does." Al-Farghani in the East takes up the same idea, and his colleagues will supply the details. They call the star Kochab, beta Ursae Minoris, "mill peg," and the stars of the Little Bear, surrounding the North Pole, and Fas al-rahha (the hole of the mill peg) "because they represent, as it were, a hole (the axle ring) in which the mill axle turns, since the axle of the equator (the polar axis) is to be found in this region, fairly close


The Depths of the Sea
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/hamle ... mill20.htm

At the end of the Golden Age (Krita Yuga) a class of Asura who had fought against the "gods" hid themselves in the ocean where the gods could not reach them, and planned to overthrow the government. So the gods implored Agastya (Canopus, alpha Carinae = Eridu) for help. The great Rishi did as he was bidden, drank up the water of the ocean, and thus laid bare the enemies, who were then slain by the gods. But now, there was no ocean anymore! Implored by the gods to fill the sea again, the Holy One replied: "That water in sooth hath been digested by me. Some other expedient, therefore, must be thought of by you, if ye desire to make endeavour to fill the ocean." It was this sad state of things which made it necessary to bring the Galaxy "down."

In the case of the Rishi: He originated from the seed of Mitra and Varuna, which they dropped into a water-jar upon seeing the heavenly Urvashi. From this double parentage he is called Maitravaruni, and from his being born from a jar he got the name Khumbasambhava; Let us mention that the Egyptian Canopus is himself a jar-god.

On the very same time and occasion there also was "born" as son of Mitra and Varuna—only the seed fell on the ground not in the jar—the Rishi Vasishtha. This is unmistakably zeta Ursae Majoris, and the lining up of Canopus with zeta, more often with Alcor, the tiny star near zeta (Tom Thumb, in Babylonia the "fox"-star) has remained a rather constant feature, in Arabic Suhayl and as-Suha. This is the "birth" of the valid representatives of both the poles, the sons of Mitra and Varuna and also of their successors.

Thus in whichever dialect the phenomenon is spelled out, the fallen ruler of the Golden Age is held to dwell nearest to the celestial South Pole, particularly in Canopus which marks the steering oar of Argo, Canopus at the "confluence of the rivers." This is true whether Varuna fastened the sky to the seat of the Rita (and his own seat), whether Enki-Ea-Enmesharra, dwelling in Eridu, held all the norms and or whether Kronos-Saturn kept giving "all the measures of the whole creation" to Zeus while he himself slept in Ogygia-the-primeval.

The Trigon – the Norms and Measures
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/hamle ... kronos.gif


And there is little doubt, in fact none, that Phaethon came to be understood as Saturn. There is the testimony of Erastosthenes' Catasterisms in dealing with the planets, beginning with Jupiter according to which the planet Saturn was Phaethon who fell from the chariot into Eridanus.

There is, moreover, the Orphic wording of the case: "After Kronos had emasculated Ouranos, Zeus threw his father Kronos from the chariot and 'entartarosed' him" right away. Essential key words are easily mistaken for petty details, as in this case the "chariot," from which Kronos/Phaethon was thrown into "Tartaros."

The "Elamitic chariot" is identical with the constellation "Chariot of Enmesharra," which the authorities of Babylonian astronomy have identified with beta and zeta Tauri. This Enmesharra now has a "telling" name: En.ME.SARRA is "Lord of all the me," that is, he is Lord of "norms and measures," also called "Lord of the World Order.

"Lord of the Universe = Ea" and, this is important, (weighty one in the underworld" and "the sovereign of the underworld."

The "underworld" is misleading, though; the word is: Arallu. It suffices that the Lord of the World Order, Enmesharra, is Enki-Ea, because it is known that he dwells "at the seat of Rita": Eridu-Canopus. And since "Enmesharra's chariot" is the vehicle of Auriga, beta zeta Tauri, there can be little doubt that the tradition of Phaethon's fall was already a Sumerian myth.

And as in Greece, where the drastic version of the Orphics, of Hesiod and others are found side by side with those of Plutarch and Proclus, according to which Kronos gives with paternal grace "all the measures of the whole creation" to his son Zeus.

One of the questions begging answers is, which measures are meant, and how does Saturn accomplish his assignment "to give them continuously" to Jupiter?

Above attention was called to the significance of the revolution of that Trigon which is built up by "Great Conjunctions" of Saturn and Jupiter, and was still understood by Kepler. This Trigon of Great Conjunctions presented itself as the instrument by which one could "narrow down" the almost imperceptible tempo of the Precession. To move through the whole zodiac, one of the angles of the Trigon needs approximately 3 x 794 1/3 = 2383 years. That comes tolerably near to one double-hour of the greatest "day" of the Precession of 25,900 years.

So much for Saturn the unalterable planet gliding along his orb; Saturn as the fallen ruler of the Golden Age and retired to Eridu is a much harder proposition. Although there is also evidence to the contrary, there are many indications that the South Pole, Canopus, was taken for static, exempted from the Precession.

To begin discussing the static South Pole, one might well start with the "Seven Sleepers of Ephesus," who were thought to be on board the Argo.

But Massignon and Monod also missed the decisive factor, namely, that the South Pole of the ecliptic is marked by the Great Cloud, and that Canopus is rather near to this south ecliptic pole, whereas the immovable center in the North of the universe is not distinguished by any star, as has been said previously.

And this would mean, at least it might mean, because it fits so well into those notions of "time and the rivers" that expired periods return "home" into timelessness and that they flow into eternity whence they came. Access to the Confluence of the Rivers, Mouth and Source of aeons and eras, the true seat of immortality, has always been denied to any aspect of "time, the moving likeness of eternity.

"For eternity excludes motion. But from this desired motionless home, source and mouth of times, the world-ruler has to procure the normed measures valid for his age; they are always based on time, as has been said. In any case it is literally the "fundamental" task of the Ruler to "dive" to the topos where times begin and end, to get hold of a new first day." As the Chinese say, in order to rule over space one has to be master of time.

How much more difficult is it to spot the "steering oar of Argo" (Canopus-Eridu) in the childish riddle of Amlethus? And yet, the "measuring of the depth of the sea" is there all the time; infant-Kullervo dared to do it with a ladle, coming to the startling result of "three ladles and a little bit more."

It remains to be seen whether or not all the measuring planets can be recognized by their particular methods of doing the measuring. It is known how Saturn does it, and Jupiter. Jupiter "throws," and Saturn "falls." How Saturn giving the measures as resident in Canopus is hard to imagine. Maybe all the available keys to this door have not been tried? Observing so many characters occupied with measuring the depth of the sea, one stumbles over the strange name given to Canopus by the Arabs: they call it the weight" or "the heavy-weighing Canopus. The epithet "wazn" has been given also to other stars of the southern sky.

This "weight" is the plumb at the end of the plumb line, by means of which this depth was measured. But where does Saturn come in? He can be understood as the "living" plumb line. This would be hard to believe if the story of this surveying were not told by the plumb line itself, Phaethon. Only when he told it, he had another name, Hephaistos. We suspect that the verbal image that "Jupiter-hurls-down Saturn" describes the shaping of the Trigon of great conjunctions, not of the Trigon generally but of that new Trigon whose first angle is established by a conjunction of the Big Two at the beginning of a new world-age. On the other hand, this picturesque formula might cover the shifting of the Trigon of conjunctions from one Triplicity to the next.


EXCURSUS ON GILGAMESH
http://www.slowmotiondoomsday.com/mestrees.html

Face to face with the ferryman Urshanabi, a kind of personified ME who was dragged away from the "confluence of the rivers" to check the proper measure of Uruk, it can hardly be taken for a farfetched idea that we ask for comparative "individuals" or "places" in other Mesopotamian texts. There is, indeed, no need for a frantic search: the Enuma Elish offers us an equally decisive item from which depends the whole skeleton may, namely "Nibiru" (or "Neberu").

There are three passages of the so-called Babylonian Genesis that give details of the surveying of the new world as accomplished by Marduk/Jupiter. In Speiser's translation they read thus (ANET, pp. 67, 69):

He crossed the heavens and surveyed the regions. He squared Apsu's quarter, the abode of Nudimmud [Ea], As the lord measured the dimensions of Apsu. The Great Abode, its likeness, he fixed as Esharra The Great Abode, Esharra, which he made as the firmament. Anu, Enlil, and Ea he made occupy their places.

He constructed stations for the great gods, Fixing their astral likenesses as constellations. He determined the year by designating the zones: He set up three constellations for each of the twelve months. After defining the days of the year by means of heavenly figures, He founded the station of Nibiru to determine their heavenly bands, That none might transgress or fall short. Alongside he set up the stations of Enlil and Ea.

The plain meaning of "nibiru" is "ferry, ferryman, ford" -- "mikis nibiri" is the toll one has to pay for crossing the river -- from eberu, "to cross". Alfred Jeremias insisted that Nibiru "in all star-texts of later times" indicated Canopus, taking this star for the provider of the meridian of the city of Babylon. There have been other identifications (including even a comet!) -- the summer solstice, or the celestial North Pole; the opinions and verdicts collected by Gössmann (Planet., 311) show clearly that Nibiru remains an unknown factor for the time being.

Before Sitchin reached his conclusions about the actual existence of the Planet Nibiru, the Planet X of the Establishment, researchers including Dr. Velikovsky, sought to explain this "Nibiru" as a reference to one of the already existing Planets in this Solar System. As noted here, some felt that it was Jupiter; Dr. Velikovsky proposed his "Saturn Theory". If Nibiru originated in the Sirius System, that would explain a connection to Sirius. And Sitchin has postulated from the ancient records that Nibiru travels through the Constellation of Cancer during the time of its "crossing".


Canopus Revelation
http://www.philipcoppens.com/canopus_art5.html

Cruttenden goes in search of a sister star for our sun, and a “centre” around which both these stars revolve. He promotes several possibilities, with a specific emphasis towards Sirius as our sun’s sister, and a (small) possibility that Sirius B could be the centre of the system – though he himself considers it more likely that a black hole elsewhere, as yet undiscovered, would be the area around which we circulate.

In The Canopus Revelation, I highlighted material about how Canopus and Sirius indicated the depth of the Abyss, and that the description of this Abyss was using the same words modern astrophysicists used to describe a black hole. I also linked this with the great cycles of time, namely the Great and Perfect Year. In the section “Sirius and the Great Year”, I quote from the work of Robert Briggs, who described both Sirius and Canopus as “They control time – time does not control them.” This suggests that both stars had some specific importance for the ancient Egyptians that exceeded the other stars, whereby the two stars were “timekeepers”, i.e. control the calendar.

“In astrology, Sirius and Canopus are associated with evolutionary affairs of Earth and Humanity, and herald potent global experiences. Canopus is specifically responsible for the evolutionary development of entire planetary systems, whereas Sirius holds specific responsibility for Earth.” This fits perfectly within the binary star hypothesis, as outlined by Cruttenden. In short, it argues that Canopus plays the most instrumental role in the determination of orbit around the centre of our star system: the Abyss.

“The number 30, of the First World, was linked to the Saturnalia. These were festivities linked with the Roman god Saturn, considered to be the ruler of the First World and the Roman counterpart of the Egyptian Ptah and the Greek Chronos. Saturn was also the outermost planet of our visible solar system and as such could be said to ‘measure’ it, the ‘measurer of time’, the chrono-meter.

The Ark of the Second World could be identified with Argo, if only because Argo was a ship, and it had 50 stars, the sacred number of the Second World. Both ages are linked with Sirius, which had also been a measurer of both ages. Sirius was identified with an arrow (perhaps the origin of the symbol of the arrow of time) and was said to have caused floods. In the Babylonian New Year, Sirius was known as mul.KAK.SI.DI, ‘who measures the depth of the Sea’. The felling of the tree caused the whirlpool to come into existence. This was labelled the cosmic axis, or the navel of the World. The navel is the ‘hole’ in the human body that connected its interior to the mother, its nurturer, a ‘cosmic axis’ between child and parent.

The Abyss was the place to where the rulers of the Olden Ages were retired. It had happened to the Greek god Chronos, or Saturn. Chronos was hurled into the Tartaros, the bottomless pit, the Apsu. It was literally as if Canopus had opened the lid of its box, and Chronos had been thrown in, with the box closed again afterwards. Like a coffin (Osirus).


Kolob and the Sagittarius Star Cloud
http://www.believeallthings.com/2508/ko ... tar-cloud/

Last year, Carrie pointed me to a series of references to Kolob and the Sagittarius Star Cloud in a book she was reading at the time. I thought these references were intriguing since Kolob is a star that is “near unto” the throne of God.

Apparently by almost, if not quite common consent, the hub or center of our galaxy is assumed to lie “in the direction of the Great Star Cloud of Sagittarius” in the area (southward from us) of the constellations of Sagittarius and Scorpio.

Astrophysicists now affirm that in this distance between us and the Sagittarius Cloud in which is the center or hub, “we can detect a network of dense dust clouds floating through space within 5,000 light-years of us or less; and beyond that, up to 25,000 light-years away, we can see the thickly huddled stars and star-clusters of the hub itself.”

But this fact seems reasonably clear that this hub or center of a galaxy exists and performs, in broad principle, the functions of Kolob and that Kolob’s existence and function were known about four thousand years before our day.

The references above to Kolob and the Sagittarius Star Cloud immediately caught my attention. Rather it has to do with the idea that both constellations are located in the southern hemisphere.

According to Giorgio de Santillana:

In whichever dialect the phenomenon is spelled out, the fallen ruler of the Golden Age is held to dwell nearest to the celestial South Pole, particularly in Canopus which marks the steering oar of Argo, Canopus at the “confluence of the rivers.” This is true whether Varuna fastened the sky to the seat of the Rita (and his own seat), whether Enki-Ea-Enmesharra, dwelling in Eridu, held all the norms and measures (Rita, Sumerian me: Akkadian: parsu)—Thorkild Jacobsen called him very appropriately the “Lord modus operandi” –or whether Kronos-Saturn kept giving “all the measures of the whole creation” to Zeus while he himself slept in Ogygia-the-primeval.

Although I’ve already written about Canopus, its possible connection to Facsimile 2 in the Book of Abraham, and as the center of gravity, I should add that the southern sky where all these celestial phenomena appear – at least to the ancients – seem to be associated with joyfulness and happiness. And to me, that seems to be an apt description of Kolob.


Kolob
http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/ti ... emples.htm

The planet Kolob is not the place where God lives but is the planet nearest to God. Abraham 3:16 tells us, “Kolob is the greatest of all Kokaubeam that thou hast seen, because it is nearest unto me.” However, we’re also told that one day for Kolob is one thousand years to us. Therefore even Kolob has time.

“In the same period I had read from the book `Astronomia’ an essay in 3 volumes pages 790-791 and the title was `Sirio, I Dogon e gli extraterrestri’ (Sirius, Dogon and the aliens). It was written by two anthropologists, Griaul and Diertelen, who had learned from the Dogons (people living in the Mali territory), the knowledge of the existence of a star which they named Po Tolo, which was rotating around Sirius every 50 years.

“The American writer Robert K. Temple in 1976 wrote a book entitled, `The Sirius mystery’ in which he held the theory that the information could have been brought to earth from aliens living on a planet rotating in the Siurius system.

In the Dogon's idea, Sirius A is symbolized with an X and it is inclusive in an ellipse that it would represent the orbit of Sirius B.

Since this symbol is the same, we can deduce that Kolob and Sirius A are the same.

“A deeper study of Sirius shows us several interesting things. In Mr. Temple’s first chapter he states that the hipocephal disks that I saw in the museum were seven or eight. I took some pictures but they didn't come out very good. Nevertheless, one of them was the exact reproduction to facsimile 2 in the Pearl of Great Price. In the middle of the picture there is a rectangle in which is possible to see three characters. In the middle an explanation is given that the number one, which is clearly visible in the middle, is an X which is the same symbol used by the Dogons to represent the star Sirius A. The two baboons that are to the right and to the left of the character in the middle are explained as representing two stars.

Therefore, near Kolob there should be two stars. One is no doubt Sirius B. The other one could possibly be another star (Sirius C) which was discovered by two astronomers in 1995. Kolob being the creation nearest to God could be a doorway to the dimension of God.
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Pope Leo X (1475—1521) “It has served us well. This myth of Christ”


Unlearning – the process that allows evolution to occur naturally by removing mental constructions that no longer serve human nature.


AGONY IN THE GARDEN
http://www.unlearning.org/editor40.htm

We say we want peace and happiness, yet when the opportunity is offered to us again and again, we choose the path of ignorance and pain. My recent viewing of Mel Gibson's poorly produced and scripted film propaganda, The Passion of the Christ, only reinforced for me the collective thickness of the human skull.

It is beyond dispute to anyone who has an objective eye that the story of the Christ is mostly a myth. Long before Jesus and in several cultures spanning the globe are similar stories of a god-child born to a virgin, being baptized, having twelve intimate followers, being crucified for the sins of man, rising from the dead and therefore redeeming humanity to eternal life. Christianity is only the latest version of this tired old story.

But every myth has some basis of truth to it, and Christianity is no exception. Peeling away the lies, and interpolations of “sacred scripture”, one can find a rather interesting history behind the Jesus story. But however interesting you or I may find this story, it certainly bears no cause for the undying adoration of millions across the centuries. That is, unless you understand how the powerful might benefit from such a foolish ruse.

As author Tony Bushby and others have pointed out, no such crucifixion of a man named Jesus ever happened in the manner in which the Gospels depict. What history does record is a power struggle instigated by one of Emperor Tiberius' illegitimate sons, a man named Judas Khrestus, who also had a twin brother, known by many names, but most famously as Rabbi Jesus Cunobeline.

Found to be on the losing end of his desire to rule the Roman world (Caligula being the winner), Judas Khrestus had been sentenced to death by crucifixion. Because of his high noble lineage, however, Khrestus was able to arrange for a substitute to undergo his punishment, and even the substitute did not die on the cross. Stripped of all privileges of his birthright, Judas was sold into slavery, spending the remainder of his days in India.

Rabbi Jesus, on the other hand, was highly connected to the halls of power by birth and marriage, not only to the families of Tiberius and Herod, but to the ruling elite of Britain as well, via marriage to his second of four wives, the infamous Mary Magdalene, who's reputation as a prostitute in Christian mythology reflects a powerful campaign to slander her image in order to throw truth seekers off the track of that religion's many lies.

It was one of Rabbi Jesus' British sons, the powerful nemesis of Rome known as Caractacus or Caradoc, who helped the Christian myth take root. Captured by betrayal and delivered into the hands of Emperor Claudius (also related to Jesus' family by marriage and blood), Caractacus was mysteriously “pardoned” for his nine year rebellion against the Roman invasion of Britain. As a forced but highly liberated “guest” in Rome, the family of Caractacus, including the now Arch Druid Jesus, slowly built over time what was known as the “Khrestian” movement.

It would be a few hundred years later before a descendant of this family, the famous Emperor Constantine, would gather the quarrelsome and mostly uneducated rabble who permutated the Khrestian mythos throughout his empire, to the city of Nicea. From that point onward, the Roman state assumed control of the various truths and lies surrounding the story of Jesus and Judas, mixing them into the old solar myth of death and resurrection that even precedes the culture of Babylon.

Over these last two thousand years, and who knows for how much longer, humans by the hundreds of millions have died for a story which never happened as it is depicted in the gospels. Why would such a story ever be created if it weren't true? To the unlearned, the answer has become more than obvious.

Christianity has served as a powerful and extremely successful tool for holding down human consciousness and therefore successfully limiting competition for control of the planet's resources. Like Judaism before the fish religion and Islam after it, these religions of “The Book” tell stories of an immensely powerful yet emotionally capricious god whose lust for obedience, blood and suffering is as eternal as his nature.

Every so often, parts of the scripture seek to promote his “love” for us. This is merely just a PR campaign, sort of like the highly successful General Electric slogan, “We bring good things to life,” while hiding the fact that the company is also a major developer of deadly weapons technologies. A part of us knows that something is amiss, yet we lack the courage to confront it in our lives and in the world around us.

Perhaps we will arrive en masse one day at the conclusion reached by Thomas Jefferson. “I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature,” he said. Connected as he was to the Freemasons organizing the newly emerging “democracy” in America, Jefferson knew the real score of things in the world. As unlearners, recognizing myth from reality is an essential skill that must be constantly honed. Just as Gibson's portrayal of the mythic passion was poorly done, may humans everywhere soon see that the religion that sprang up from it was poorly done as well. Only then can the mythological garden of paradise materialize before our eyes.


British Freemasonry Covets Israel
http://www.rense.com/general28/brit.htm

Without British Freemasonry there would be no modern state of Israel. In the 1860s, the British-Israelite movement was initiated from within Freemasonry. Its goal was to establish a Jewish-Masonic state in the Turkish province of Palestine. Of course, that would mean dealing with the Turks at some point down the line, but first the country would have to be repopulated with Jews. And the idea wasn't to bring in more of the same religious Jews who already were the majority in Jerusalem and elsewhere, but the kind of Jews who would eventually accept the Masonic view of history.

Initially, British Jewish Masonic families like the Rothschilds and Montefiores provided the capital to build the infrastructure for the anticipated wave of immigration. However, luring the Jews to Israel was proving difficult. They, simply, liked European life too much to abandon it. So Europe was to be turned into a nightmare for the Jews.

This led to the rise of pogroms and Zionism. The leader of Zionism, Theodore Herzl certainly had some British support but he apparently was not thinking in terms of a Masonic state. He died mysteriously in 1905 at the tender age of 43, and the movement fell into British hands under the immoral leadership of one Chaim Weizmann.

Then things began moving quickly. British Masons like Arthur Balfour and Herbert Samuel led the campaign for official British recognition of a Jewish homeland during World War One. At the same time, a million British troops, badly needed in the trenches of Europe, were sent marching to Palestine to oust the Ottomans.

When the war ended, the campaign for a Jewish state went into full speed at Versailles. In 1919, The Royal Institute Of International Affairs was founded in London and two years later, the Council On Foreign Relations began its nefarious activities in New York. Their agendas called for a world governmental takeover and a global religion based in Jerusalem.

So far, so good for the Jews one might think. In fact, the British finagling led straight to the Holocaust, which Mason Winston Churchill refused to prevent or disrupt, right to the next attempt at a Holocaust called the Oslo Peace Accords, which began with a meeting in London in November 1992 between arch-criminals Beilin, Hirshfeld and Pundak and members of the outlawed PLO. Since then, secret meeting after secret meeting have taken place between Israel's "peacemakers" and British Freemasons. The results are there for everyone to see.

The British have turned on Israel, but for reasons very few could even contemplate considering seriously. However, the reasons are deadly serious. What follows is information privy to only the very highest degrees of British Freemasonry and British Royalty. Upon threat of agonizing death, these secrets are to be withheld from the meaningless masses of humanity.

Perhaps only several thousand people in all Britain and Israel are aware that British Freemasonry and Royalty are totally convinced that Jesus was King of Britain and was stoned to death in London, at Ludgate, the location of St. Paul's Cathedral. This conviction is based on a history many are going to find insulting. Nonetheless, it is vital to understand the thinking that has led to the 20th century slaughter of the Jews and the current attempt to annihilate Israel.


The Bible Fraud
http://www.joshuabooks.com/biblefraud/i ... sample.htm

What was the church trying to hide? In 1415, the Church oF Rome took an extraordinary step to destroy all knowledge of two Second Century Jewish books that it said contained ‘the true name of Jesus Christ.’ The Antipope Benedict XIII firstly singled out for condemnation a secret Latin treatise called ‘Mar Yesu ’ and then issued instructions to destroy all copies of the Book of Elxai.No editions of these writings now publicly exist,but church archives recorded that they were once in popular circulation and known to the early presbyters. Knowledge of these writings survived from quotations made by Bishop Hippolytus of Rome (176 –236)and St Epiphanius of Salamis (315 – 403)along with references in some early editions of the Talmud of Palestine and Babylonia.The Rabbinic fraternity once held the destroyed manuscripts with great reverence for they were comprehensive original records reporting the ‘Life of Rabbi Jesus ’.


Who Wrote the New Testament
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... piso01.htm

The authorship of the New Testament books has been discovered. For years, the book “The True Authorship of the New Testament” has been out and many persons have been discovering this as well.

here has been a few WebPages on the Net telling about how and why the Roman Piso family authored the New Testament. But there had yet to be the information on who wrote each of the New Testament books. So, here you will find out who wrote what. There is enough information here so that persons can grasp the fact that this is real and that they can research it further as well as find books that will help to explain this in more detail.

Soon, there will be new books out that will enable even the person to do their own research on this and to verify it. Our goal in all of this is to get this out to as many persons as possible and to see more and more persons writing on this subject. Look for books on the subject of: ‘The Piso Theory’, and of ‘The New Classical Scholarship’.

We have determined that the book of Mark was the first of the Gospels to have been written and so we will always list Mark before Matthew.


Alias Identities in Ancient History
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... piso05.htm

How did they do it?

An example of how they did this was given in this style; each family member would have a profile containing personal and otherwise identifying data. This kind of information would consist of things like info about their careers, who they were related to, when and where they were born, who their immediate family members were and/or their ancient ancestors, etc. All of this was done for specific reasons and left not under one identity, but several. In this way, they could say whatever they wish and no one would be the wiser unless they were of the family.


Flavius Josephus Was Really Arrius Piso
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... piso07.htm

The tie-in is that Arria the Elder was married to the emperor Vespasian’s brother (before Vespasian became emperor). He was T. Flavius Sabinus.


Josephus' Deliberate Deception
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... piso04.htm

It appears that it cannot be stated enough that Josephus was most deliberate in his works and that he makes statements all through his works that serve (at least in his own mind) to absolve or excuse himself for misleading and making misleading statements and outright lies.


The Synthesis of Christianity
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... piso03.htm

How and Why Ancient Rulers Needed to Create a Universal Religion:

It has been my recent privilege to receive a manuscript by Roman Piso entitled “The Synthesis of Christianity.” I have read dozens of books about the history of Christianity, but this one is by far the most unique.

Perhaps Piso’s quote from Abelard Reuchlin sums up his thesis best:

“It was Flavius Josephus who was the creator of Jesus.”

Piso spent many years researching the fraud of Christianity. It seems that many scholars had previously come to the conclusion that Josephus had indeed created Christianity.

This book, however, presents the authorship of the New Testament as regards the Roman Piso family, the antiquity of which goes back to ancient Rome. Members of the royal Piso family were the composers of the New Testament. The reasons are discussed in the “Piso Theory” and the “Royal Supremacy Theory.”

In a nutshell, the Royals of ancient times invented and promoted superstitions for the purpose of controlling people. The Royals were the only ones who were literate, and who had freedoms, including the freedom of speech. Promoting religion for the purpose of control was the duty and responsibility of the Royals, who were atheists. They knew there were no gods, for they had created them. The main control they sought to preserve was slavery.

Intricate family archives kept track of ever evolving dogmas. Later writers had access to earlier records for their creations. Through the centuries the Royals carefully guarded their great hoax and seemed to thoroughly enjoy the creation of the masterpiece. As Piso describes it, “being an ancient author was like being in on a long, long standing perpetually running inside joke.”


Harvard's 1st Century History
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... iso02a.htm

This book was written to tell how and why the Roman Piso Family wrote the New Testament. The Jews, who were tired of being ruled over by the Roman Aristocracy, were lead in their third great revolt against Rome since 6 C.E., in 60 C.E., by Benjamin the Egyptian of the Pharisaic Party. Though they were defeated by the Romans, the Romans knew that something had to be done. So, about the year 60, certain people were getting together a plan to regain control of the Jewish masses. Seneca the Rhetorician, Lucius Piso, Gaius Piso, and their relatives figured to give the Jews a new rhetorical religion. Lucius Piso, with assistance from Seneca, wrote ’Ur Markus’ there abouts that year. They had much planned around this new religion. With this first book, they had hoped to start a new Messiahonic Jewish religion.


Bush-Windsor-Piso Bloodline Chart
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... ush08a.htm

Did Jesus have a secret family? Was John the Baptist the “intended messiah”?

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3040&start=315#p36759

According to Monday's programme, Jesus did have a hidden family, but they were not a wife and daughter - rather his brothers and sisters: James, Joses, Simon, Jude (sometimes referred to as Judas), Salome and young Mary.

These secret siblings apparently played a crucial role in the founding of Christianity, but their teachings proved too dangerous for the official church.

Taking over their movement, it tried to eradicate them from history by rewriting Christ's life story, fabricating his place of birth, falsely crediting him with creating the Lord's Prayer and even inventing the idea that his mother Mary remained a virgin throughout her life.


Is there a secret tradition that believes that John and not Jesus was the Messiah? Are the secret wars that lurk between the lines in the historical record the result of an age-old power struggle? Who was John the Baptist and who were his followers? More importantly, does his following exist to this day?

The Gospel of Mark- generally believed to be the earliest of the four gospels in the New Testament- begins, not with Jesus, but with John, son of Zechariah and Elisabeth, better known as ‘John the Baptist.’


The first of Jesus's 3 Wives
http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm370 ... nteresting

Rabbi Jesus’first wife was Princess Cypros, a Nabateean Arab and Daughter of Cypros and Alexas. Cypros was also her mother’s name and she was King Herod’s grandaughter. Rabbi Jesus first wife was not mentioned by name in the New Testament but the marriage was recorded in the family tree of King Herod. Her uncle was Joseph of Arimathea, who was also the brother of Bernice, the mother of Mariamne Herod and Herodias.

Jesus and Princess Cypros had five children, three boys, Adminius, Guiderius and Caradoc and two daughters Eurgain and Gladys.


Druidic Symbolism
in Masonry and Judeo-Christianity
http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.c ... olism.html

From all these facts it appears that the population of Ireland came from the West, and not from Asia - that it was one of the many waves of population flowing out from the Island of Atlantis - and herein we find the explanation of that problem which has puzzled the Aryan scholars. As Ireland is farther from the Punjab than Persia, Greece, Rome, or Scandinavia, it would follow that the Celtic wave of migration must have been the earliest sent out from the Sanskrit centre; but it is now asserted by Professor Schleicher and others that the Celtic tongue shows that it separated from the Sanskrit original tongue later than the others, and that it is more closely allied to the Latin than any other Aryan tongue. This is entirely inexplicable upon any theory of an Eastern origin of the Indo-European races, but very easily understood if we recognize the Aryan and Celtic migrations as going out about the same time from the Atlantean fountain-head. There are many points confirmatory of this belief. In the first place, the civilization of the Irish dates back to a vast antiquity - Ignatius Donnelly (Atlantis: The Ante-Diluvian Epoch, 1882)

As we have shown throughout the Irish Origins of Civilization, the symbols and traditions we associate with Judaism, Christianity, Templarism, and Masonry, originate in Ireland.

They were first employed by the Druid elders of the West, once known throughout the world as the Arya. The name of Ireland was originally Ari or Arya Land. One of the main connotations of this term was "Western Land." Another connotation was "Land of the Pure or Noble Ones."

Our Thesis

The Ten Commandments of the Druids were almost identical with those given by God to Moses - Richard Kelley Hoskins

In our text we assert the following controversial points, which must be deeply considered by every unbiased historian and researcher:

The elements of modern civilizations originated in prediluvian times, long before the official dates given for the advent of sophisticated human artifice. After the destruction of Atlantis and other prehistoric civilizations (approximately 13,500 years ago), the surviving cultural elements were transported to Britain and Scandinavia.

The preservers and disseminators of prediluvian knowledge were the priesthood known as the "Druids." This word means Servant or Keeper of Truth. However, the Druids were a worldwide priesthood and were not confined to Western Europe. In Egypt they were known as Amenists. The cosmologies and pantheons of India, Egypt, Italy, Greece, and other countries, were not autochthonous. They originated in Britain and Scandinavia. (Norway was once joined to Scotland via a great land bridge.)

Ireland, not Egypt, was the post-diluvian cradle of the elements of civilization. It is from Britain and Scandinavia that these elements spread throughout the world. This fact is widely denied because it would inevitably give rise to speculation about Atlantis, the Age of Catastrophe, and antiquity of advanced humans. Revelations on these subjects devastate fundamental tenets of modern-day science and religion. However, the true facts about the widespread influence of Irish Druidism is largely unknown because of the wholesale destruction of the Druids and the prolonged and deliberate suppression and mutilation of their social traditions and religious leitmotifs.

There were primordial connections between Britain and Egypt. Long before the first official dynasties, over 4,000 years ago, the Western Arya migrated to the Middle and Far East, establishing new civilizations and enriching existing ones. Their remains have been discovered in Upper Egypt and locations farther East. They were the original architects of the Giza Pyramids and the many sacred temples along the Nile. They brought with them the worship of Amen Ra, Osiris, Horus, and Isis (the Nordic Is). While in the East, the Arya referred to their own Western habitats as "lands of the dead," due to the colossal devastation that occurred there.

The many prehistoric and historic migrations to the British Isles (of Iberians, Celts, Gaels, and so on) were for the most part returns. During the so-called "Age of Catastrophe," titanic cataclysms (following on from those that destroyed Atlantis) displaced the original inhabitants of Britain, who were forced to flee to the Continent across land-bridges now lost beneath the waves.

The Druids were Aryans. This word has been deliberately misinterpreted to signify members of a race. However, the term truly refers to a spiritual caste, an elect. It is also the true name of Ireland, correctly rendered Ariland, or "Land of the Arya." The term can also be correctly rendered Eri, signifying the Earth goddess of the ancient Druids. Etymologically, Ari and Eri can be found as roots in terms and names such as area, terra, Tara, Mary, Hera, Benares, Armenia, Aramaic, and aristocracy, etc.

The language of the Arya is now referred to as Aramaic and Hebrew. However, these languages have been fraudulently put before us by duplicitous linguists and other so-called "experts." They are not "Semitic" and were not invented by early Jews or Canaanites. On the contrary, the twenty two letters of the Hebrew alphabet are based on the ancient Irish alphabet. Specifically, the so-called "Hebrew" alphabet was the sacred alphabet of the initiates. It was the non-hieroglyphic "hieratic" script of Egyptian adepts, the sacerdotal alphabet of the Ibaru who were not the ancestors of modern religious Jews. They were the Judites, Judges, and Wise Ones; the architects of high civilizations eventually brought low by desecrators who appropriated, corrupted, and misrepresented their sacred leitmotifs. (According to researcher Tony Bushby, the shapes of the twenty two "Hebrew" letters were, in fact, based on the serpentine shadows cast by sunlight passing through the, now lost, crystalline capstone on top of the Great Pyramid of Giza. These "letters" were assigned to the twenty two cards of the Tarot, which originated in Ireland, and to the twenty two "paths" on the Kabalistic "Tree of Life." The concept of the sacred tree was known to Western adepts - British, Nordic, and European - millennia before the rise of Judaism and Christianity.)

Terms such as Israel, Israelite, Jew, Judite, Yahud, Jehovah, Adonai, Aton, Amen, Elohim, Christ, Jesus, Messiah, Joshua, Isaac, David, Solomon, and so on, were originally Druidic or Aryan appellations. Some of these terms were titles denoting senior members of Druidic colleges. These terms were plagiarized and deliberately mistranslated to obscure the facts about the origins of religion.

Judeo-Christianity is an adulterated form of Druidism and Amenism. The vast majority of tenets, doctrines, terms, and symbols of modern religion are the result of deliberate plagiarism. They are based on ancient Aryan theology and astrotheology. The adulterated form of Druidism and Amenism can also be referred to as Atonism.

Atonism is the basis for the monotheistic elements of Judeo-Christian theology. That modern experts foam at the mouth denying this fact does not make it less true. The truth is that Christianity was not conceived by egalitarian Jews or Essenes, Mandeans, Stoics, Therapeuts, or Alexandrian Gnostics, as many misinformed researchers and authors believe. Most of these Oriental sects were branches of ancient Atonism. The same can be said of Mithraism and Talmudism. The Jewish Jehovah is none other than Adon or Aton, god of light.

The emperors who codified and established Christianity were members of Solar Cults that were outer cells of a more secretive Atonist lodge. Senior members of the Claudian, Piso, and Flavian dynasties of Rome worked closely with wealthy and powerful Sadducees and Pharisees to establish the Christian religion. This Atonist quorum feared the rise of other religions with egalitarian tenets and "Druidic" elements.

To suppress rivals and galvanize imperial dominion, they funded duplicitous scribes and compilers (such as Paul and Marcion) to create Christianity, basing their "Jesus Christ" on many ancient solar heroes and deities. The sidereal motifs found throughout the scriptures prove this beyond all doubt. Nevertheless, the god of the Bible, Jehovah, was not the god of the Jews, as most academic historians falsely allege. He was the god of Solar Cult priests and pharaohs who were themselves descended from the Hyksos kings cryptically referred to in the scriptures as "Israelites." This term derives from Isa (god of the Western Arya and their descendents), and Amen Ra (god of the ancient Egyptian kings.)


The so-called but misnamed "Jewish" co-conspirators who directed the operations of the Roman Caesars and Emperors, were Atonists. Specifically, they were the leaders of the Order of Melchizedek (or Akhenaton). They were Pharisees and Sadducees of high rank, keepers of the so-called "Oral Tradition" allegedly delivered to their ancestors at Mount Sinai. This quorum of sorcerers were also known as the Gaonim. The capitalized letter "G" found on Masonic iconography refers to this super secret Luciferian cabal. The Gaonim have nothing whatever in common with modern religious Jews or the individuals, races, and tribes featured in the testaments.

The original Jews or Judites are not the religious Torah-readers known today. Terms and appellations of this kind do not refer to the kind of sects or beliefs we might first imagine. They refer to a caste of sorcerers descended from the corrupt Solar Cults (or Luciferians) of antiquity. The members of the British royal family, for example, are Judites, even though they belong to the Protestant religion. The Pope is a Judite, and so are his bishops and cardinals, even though they belong to the Catholic religion.The word Tudor derives from Juda or Judah, as do the terms judge, tutor, and Teuton. These facts are known to members of Masonic Orders and other "Judaic" enclaves. To them religious affiliations mean little and are merely a form of camouflage. They serve to dupe the uninformed masses of the world.
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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

Unread postby starbiter » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:55 am

Hello Lizzy: I assume you've seen this. You mention the author in your last post.

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Re: On “gods”, genes, alchemy, bioluminesence, and longevity

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And there is little doubt, in fact none, that Phaethon came to be understood as Saturn. There is the testimony of Erastosthenes' Catasterisms in dealing with the planets, beginning with Jupiter according to which the planet Saturn was Phaethon who fell from the chariot into Eridanus.

Thus in whichever dialect the phenomenon is spelled out, the fallen ruler of the Golden Age is held to dwell nearest to the celestial South Pole, particularly in Canopus which marks the steering oar of Argo, Canopus at the “confluence of the rivers”.

And this would mean—at least it might mean, because it fits so well into those notions of "time and the rivers" –that expired periods return "home" into timelessness, that they flow into eternity whence they came. Access to the Confluence of the Rivers, Mouth and Source of aeons and eras, the true seat of immortality, has always been denied to any aspect of "time, the moving likeness of eternity."


Blue is a River
http://www.ted.com/talks/natalie_macmas ... _time.html

Blue is a river
Blue remembers
Blue water running clear
Blue like a planet to a spaceman
Blue river of my tears
Blue river of my tears


The Myth of Hyperborea and the Polar Sun

The Irish Origins of Civilization
http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.c ... olism.html

One of the most misunderstood and misapplied titles is "Aryan." Its origins are much more interesting than we might at first imagine. To this day Ireland is known by the Gaelic appellations Eire and Erin. But where do these terms come from? In fact, they refer directly to the primordial goddess Eri or Ari. Therefore, the syllables ari and eri either denote or connote the goddess after whom Ireland was named. In many cases, therefore, wherever word roots such as ari, ara, eri, and so on, are found, they connote or denote either the land of Ireland specifically or, alternatively, the Western hemisphere. They signify the men of the West, their sacred land and beloved goddess.

Goddesses permeated Ireland. Mountain, rivers, valleys, wells, all testified to her presence. Around the eleventh century, Ireland became known predominately as Eire, a name derived from the Goddess Eriu, one of the triple Goddesses: Eriu, Banba, and Fotla...Eriu makes it clear that anyone wishing to enter Ireland would have to revere the goddesses if they wished to prosper and be fruitful – Mary Condren (The Serpent and the Goddess)

As to the original homeland of the Arya, we take the view of researchers Ignatius Donnelly, Anna Wilkes, Conor MacDari, and Comyns Beaumont, who stressed that the ancestral habitat of the Arya lay in the West.

Donnelly specified the lost prediluvian continent of Atlantis, and we agree wholeheartedly with his assertion. The lands of the North-West, namely Britain, Scandinavia, Iceland, Greenland, and perhaps even the Arctic climes, are in our opinion remnants of lost Atlantis. There is ample evidence for this contention, even though it has long been suppressed by academics who would rather that vexatious questions about man and his true history are never sufficiently answered.

...the Aryans were autochthonous neither in Europe nor in Central Asia, but had their original home somewhere near the North Pole in the Paleolithic times, and that, they migrated from this place southwards in Asia and Europe, not by any “irresistible impulse,” but by unwelcome changes in the climatic conditions of their original home.

The Avesta preserves traditions which fully support this view. But these have been treated as valueless by scholars, who worked up their theories at a time when man was regarded as post-glacial, and the Avestic traditions were, it was believed, not supported by any Vedic authority. But with the time-telescope of a wider range supplied to us by recent scientific discoveries it has become possible to demonstrate that the Avestic traditions represent a real historical fact and that they are fully supported by the testimony of the Vedas - L. B. G. Tilak (The Artic Home in the Vedas)

The North Pole is already considered by several eminent scientific men as the most likely place where plant and animal life first originated; and I believe it can be satisfactorily shown that there is enough positive evidence in the most ancient books of the Aryan race, the Vedas and the Avesta, to prove that the oldest home of the Aryan people was somewhere in regions round about the North Pole – ibid

...the strongly substantiated proof of the frequent travelling of Sagas from people to people, and their taking root among many different groups, shows that the majority of basic myths have a fixed point of radiation—their place of creation. Thus, in their outward form, they are only comprehensible on the basis of a completely distinct point of origin - Alfred Rosenberg (Myth of the Twentieth Century)

The solar myth, with all its ramifications, did not arise spontaneously as a stage of general development, but was born where the appearance of the sun must have been a cosmic event of profoundest significance, that is, in the far north.

Only there would the year be sharply divided into two halves, and only there would the sun represent a certainty in man’s innermost being of the life renewing, primal creative substance of the world. And so today the long derived hypotheses becomes a probability, namely that from a northern centre of creation which, without postulating an actual submerged Atlantic continent, we may call Atlantis, swarms of warriors once fanned out in obedience to the ever renewed and incarnate Nordic longing for distance to conquer and space to shape. These currents of Atlantic men moved by water in their swan and dragon ships into the Mediterranean – ibid.


William Comyns Beaumont
http://quazen.com/reference/biography/t ... -the-past/

In a series of books published between 1946 and 1949, British journalist William Comyns Beaumont astonished the world with the following extraordinary revelations:

Jesus of Nazareth had been crucified just outside Edinburgh, Scotland – the site of the ancient city of Jerusalem.

Satan was a comet that collided with the earth and caused Noah’s Flood.

The ancient Egyptians were in fact Irishmen.

Hell is to be found in Western Scotland.

The Greek hero Achilles spent his childhood on the Isle of Skye.

Galilee, birthplace of Jesus, was Wales.

Ancient Athens was in reality Bath, England.


Comyns Beaumont & the Keys to World History
http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.c ... umont.html

It wasn’t until I was cast free of the Velikovskians, and pursued my own studies of catastrophism, that I accidentally came upon The Riddle of the Earth, the first of Beaumont’s five books of a new catastrophism.

Its title was the attraction, but its contents proved to be even more magnetic. The book is written in the form of theses (over 100 of them), summarizing his thoughts on cometary catastrophe. Written in 1925, it read like the 1950s bombshell Worlds in Collision.

One of Beaumont’s central propositions took my fancy – that geography had been falsified in the fourth century, and the Old Testament holy city, Jerusalem, was really Edinburgh, Scotland. This falsification was a deception promulgated by Constantine the Great in 325 AD, at the Church Council of Nicea. The Church then carried on a conspiracy to protect the deception in order to guarantee its dictatorial rule over the Empire, and built a new city of Jerusalem in the Mediterranean.

The Role of Saturn

Another shocker for me was the role Beaumont assigned to the planet Saturn, as the key to world history. Thoroughly intrigued, I searched for the true and the false in his basic ideas.

Beaumont’s books, unlike V’s, however, were long relegated to library morgues, and it took much persistence to acquire them. After considerable transatlantic correspondence and telephoning, I located one of Beaumont’s daughters and a real treasure trove of information – an unpublished manuscript that Beaumont completed before his death…Beaumont was ahead of his time – and ahead of Velikovsky – with his provocative conclusions and his unorthodox views on history. According to Beaumont, a large comet threatened Earth in the 14th century (1322 BC). Its debris (meteorites) caused a cosmic catastrophe that devastated early civilization, then centred in the Atlantis of antiquity – the British Isles.

Plato’s story of Atlantis and the Biblical account of the flood of Noah were special attempts to record this disaster. The catastrophe so shattered the cradle of humankind’s earliest civilization that it immutably altered the religious beliefs of its survivors, who fled to the global Atlantean colonies in sunnier climes, themselves to become nations.

Beaumont was an improbable heretic. In the years before and after WWI, he was a top-flight journalist, editor, and publisher on London’s famed Fleet Street, dealing primarily with politics, the arts and society. he was well connected in these fields due to his early work as assistant to publisher-diplomat James Gordon Bennett. As private secretary to America’s U.S. Ambassador to Germany, John G. A. Leishman, he traveled to many countries, acquainted himself with their customs and histories.

He was confident and brother-in-law to the British playwright and theatrical producer Gerald Du Maurier. Beaumont was the first to recognize and publish the fiction of his talented niece, Daphne Du Maurier.

A consummate establishment insider, Beaumont passionately pursued a parallel maverick career, developing ideas that challenged orthodoxy without relying on any of the divine intervention that is the backbone of contemporary Creationism and Biblical catastrophism. His ideas challenge accepted views of ancient history, its chronology, and its geography.

The Effects of Comets

The crux of Beaumont’s schema is that the history of our planet, and the solar system within which it exists, is largely the product of cometary intrusions and their effects. Its social life (civilization) arose with the Celts in the north, especially in the British Isles and Scandinavia – the Atlantis of myth.

Although there was no actual sinking of Atlantis – Britain, some of its western areas were permanently submerged and the island was ravaged by electromagnetic waves of cosmic energy, exploding volcanoes, earthquakes, hurricane storms, and tidal waves. As a result of the catastrophe, the temperature dropped. Beaumont identifies the main agent of this historical event as the planet Saturn (Zeus-Chronos) becoming a comet, in myth, the serpent of the sky, and Phaeton, the terror of the skies. Its ravaged body produced a son, a new planet = a new sky god, Jupiter (a new Zeus), to rule a renewed Earth.


Saturn
http://www.varchive.org/ce/sattot.htm

Of Saturn I intended, already for some two decades, to write in a volume “Saturn and the Flood,” in which, as the title discloses, I would endeavor to identify this planet as the prime cause of the greatest of all catastrophes in human memory—the universal flood, or Deluge. This part of Worlds in Collision was conceived and drafted together with the parts dealing with Venus and Mars, but the elaboration of details was postponed and other labors claimed my attention and I am still before work unfinished. I will, however, disclose in a few sentences what is the subject of that part of reconstruction of world history.

The age that man later called the Age of Cronos (Saturn) was remembered with nostalgia as the age of bliss. It was the the earliest age of which man retained some, however dim, memories, but farther into the past, the dimness amounts almost to darkness. Saturn was also a more massive body than it is now, possibly of the volume of Jupiter, 1 whereas now the proportion is approximately 7 to 13.

At a date that I would be hard put to task to identify even with approximation, but possibly about than ten thousand years ago, Saturn was distrubed by Jupiter and exploded, actually became a nova. The solar system and reaches beyond it were illuminated by the exploded star, and in a matter of a week the earth was enveloped in waters of Saturnian origin.

Told in such brevity, the story sounds fantastic. I had the choice not to mention these events here at all or to refer to them and ask indulgence on the part of the readers for having said something unusual, and at the same time ask them to wait for a detailed narrative at some indeterminate time. I selected the latter. I have already mentioned that the major planets were in some way connected with the earlier cataclysms, one of which was the Deluge (Worlds in Collision, p. 373).


Primordial Light
http://www.tresman.co.uk/harold/35light.htm

At one point in the narrative Dr Velikovsky hints that Jupiter must have previously wreaked havoc in our Solar System and that much of the confusion between Jupiter and Venus in the myths could be attributed to just this cause (6). As to the origin of the Venus-comet he says:- "The collision between major planets, which is the theme of the sequel to Worlds in Collision, brought about the birth of comets. These comets moved across the orbits of other planets and collided with them. At least one of those comets in historical times became a planet (Venus) . . ." (7) It is his opinion that Venus was born from Jupiter; thus Jupiter would have been in collision with another of the major planets(8) to cause the disturbances in the Solar System.

Dr Velikovsky leaves us with no doubt as to where he proposes the collisions took place within our System. "The zodiacal light, or the glow seen in the evening sky after sunset, stretching in the path of the sun and other planets (ecliptic), the mysterious origin of which has for a long time occupied the minds of astronomers, has been explained in recent years as the reflection of the solar light from two rings of dust particles, one following the orbit of Venus, the other an orbit between Mars and Jupiter, places where, according to Worlds in Collision, collisions of planets and a comet took place." (9).

There are other hints offered by the deductions Dr Velikovsky has made from his theories, some of which are confirmed, none refuted. The correct prediction of the radio noises of Jupiter is but one example. He claims that Saturn will be found to contain water and to possess molecular chlorine (17). Consider those predictions in the light of the following:- "The water of the oceans contains a large amount of soluble sodium chloride, common salt, Sodium might have come from rocks eroded by rain; but rocks are poor in chlorine and the proportion of sodium and chlorine in sea water calls for fifty times more chlorine in the igneous rock than it actually contains." (18) Did much of the salt and water in our oceans originally come from Saturn?


Saturn and the Flood
http://www.pibburns.com/smsaturn.htm

The Venus and Mars catastrophes of Worlds in Collision are only the latest in a series which, according to Velikovsky, involved every planet visible to the naked eye, at one time or another. Critiques of the Worlds in Collision scenario began appearing even before its publication in book form. This may have something to do with the fact that Velikovsky never finished the books describing these earlier catastrophes, because they make Worlds in Collision look pretty tame by comparison. Someday, his executors may release the manuscripts of Jupiter of the Thunderbolt and Saturn and the Flood. In the meantime, some articles in Kronos provide a few details. Ice cores also have implications for claims of these earlier catastrophes, which I will review here.


The Late Great Planet Tiamat
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/herco ... bus_26.htm

According to the harmonic rule known as Bode’s Law, a planet should exist between Mars and Jupiter - some 260 million miles from the Sun.

Ancient Sumerian texts indicate that Tiamat was struck by a large planet, which moved it into its present orbit, and also created the Earth’s moon and the Asteroid Belt.

In his books, The Twelfth Planet and The Cosmic Code, Zecharia Sitchin outlines this "celestial battle" as described in the Babylonian text Enuma elish.

The planet "Marduk" (the Sumerian "Nibiru"), as it came into the solar system on its 3,600-year clockwise (retrograde) elliptical course, struck Tiamat, which was moving in its ordained counterclockwise orbit.

According to Sitchin’s well-known translations, one of Marduk’s satellites struck Tiamat first, followed by two more of Marduk’s moons. Then Marduk itself, an enormous cosmic entity, struck Tiamat, smashing one half of the planet into pieces, which became what the Sumerians called the Great Band.

The remaining half of the planet, which was struck by a smaller moon of Marduk, was catapulted into a new orbit, along with a chunk of material which became its moon. According to the Enuma elish, Tiamat’s original moons were dispersed, many changing the direction of their orbits and rotations.

There is indeed evidence of this great cataclysm in our solar system today.

Indeed, if the Earth was once in fifth position, its closest neighbors would have been Jupiter and Saturn.

One of the most fascinating discussions of these two spheres is contained in a 1954 book by Rodney Collin entitled The Theory of Celestial Influence.

Jupiter has twelve known moons, four of which are visible by telescope.

As Collin explains, "The relation of Jupiter to the Sun appears to follow a definite and significant ratio. The system of Jupiter, in number of satellites, their size, distance, speeds of revolution and so on, seems to present to us an exact model of the Solar System." As Collin explains, "Jupiter, like the Sun, is a complete living entity or cosmos."

Collin, who was a disciple of P.D. Ouspensky and G.I. Gurdjieff, asserts that the Jupiter system is highly developed and is almost a complete reflection in miniature of the Solar System.

He states, "The influence or radiation produced by such a system must be an extremely subtle one, incorporating a large number of different frequencies in harmonic relation."

The system of Jupiter, Collin explains, includes 15 to 20 harmonic frequencies. Jupiter’s world must produce "an extraordinary wealth of overtones which would put it in the same relation to Venus as a cello to a penny whistle."

Collin also notes that both Jupiter and Saturn support "complete systems of satellites and may even be faintly self-luminous, though this luminosity is rendered unnoticeable by the infinitely greater brilliance of the Sun."

Collin notes that Jupiter and Saturn "are evidently trying to become suns."

He also notes that, "every 390 days, Jupiter and Saturn return to a mean relation with the Earth, and make equal angles with the Earth and Sun, and their influences become balanced."

Thus we see, as Holden states above, "the pieces of this old system have not vanished."

According to Collin, it is interesting to speculate what kind of influence the motion of countless asteroids might produce on the magnetic field of the Earth.

Imagine the discordant effect of this "throng of particles of varying sizes, pursuing at different speeds hundreds of separate and highly eccentric orbits."

Collin points out the physical relationship between the asteroidal mass and individual planets. He wonders, might this relation represent the independence or insurrection of component units against the whole?

As Collin notes, "pathological conditions are caused by the independent action or inertia of separate organs or cells of the body; while rebellions and revolutions represent such a condition in the body politic."

Collin also calls attention to the strange affinity between the asteroids and the idea of "corruption."

He notes the connection between asteroids, as a throng of particles, and ancient "legends of crime" on an angelic or planetary level. The rebellion of Satan, the fall of Lucifer, are stories told in the context of the planetary demiurges, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.

As Collin notes, the asteroids are never mentioned by name, but in every case we are told of a ’fallen angel,’ such as in, "How art thou fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer, star of the morning?" (Isaiah xiv)

As Collin concludes, "At a remote time period in the history of the solar system, some tremendous cosmic tension may have been set up which represented ’night’ for the Earth, producing the cataclysm which engulfed Atlantis and made an almost complete break in human history... The legend of the Fall of Lucifer and the war of the other planets against him... finds itself transcribed into astronomical language."

Might ancient legends be describing as fallen angels the falling debris of a great cataclysm as an insurrection in the solar system’s body politic? In the Book of Revelations, visions are assigned to each of seven planetary angels.

In the place of the fifth angel, we are told that a star was seen to fall from heaven, "into the bottomless pit, from which arose clouds of smoke which darkened the sun."

The angel of this bottomless pit was Apollyon, who was later to be called Satan. We must realize that the asteroids now fill the fifth place in the planetary sequence. The fifth planet is "missing."

A further vision describes, "a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars."

Collin describes this vision as, "a personification of the descending scale of worlds from the twelve zodiacal signs of the Milky Way through the Sun down to the moon."
The woman, he explains, is about to give birth "to a new satellite."

"Satan waits to devour the infant and there is a war in heaven between Satan and his demons and Michael and his angels (Sun and major planets). The great Dragon is cast out (of the world) and cast into the Earth with his angels. Lucifer is the spirit of multiplicity, chaos and disorder among a mass of disorganized individuals."

Planet X Theory is beginning to fill in the details of this ancient myth of a War in the Universe.

The great Dragon could be Nibiru (Sol B), the Sun’s dark twin, which was cast into (collided with) the Earth, and which indeed "devoured the infant" (taking a big bite out of its side) and was cast out of the world for the time being.
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