Recovered: New Theory of Light

Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

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Recovered: New Theory of Light

Unread postby bboyer » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:10 am

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I find this to be a interesting theory.

New Photon Model

Consider, in dynamic equilibrium, a photon formed by two particles whose electric charges are opposed, and for this reason they attract each other.

This attraction is equilibrated by the centrifugal force generated when rotating one with the other. By rotating electrical charged particles, a perpendicular magnetic field is generated, also perpendicular to a stationary observer.

http://lighttheory.com/light/proposed.htm

Dual Particle Nature of Light Proofs
This model explains the following:

1) The duality particle-wave.

2) The reason why it is not possible to have a photon at rest.

3) It is not possible to distinguish if a photon is emitted by matter or antimatter, this sole fact suggests that the photon has to have two opposed electrical charges.

4) It is possible with this model to have a total visualization of the three different polarizations.

5) Due to the electrical charges which are affected by external electrons of matter, it is well understood the phenomena of diffraction and refraction, as well as the interference patterns of one and two slots.

6) The best proof was made with a microwave oscillator and a receptor measuring the field strength, showing clearly the paths of photons in both lineal and circular polarizations (see experiments)

http://lighttheory.com/light/
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

Unread postby bboyer » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:11 am

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The whole Quantum duality thing is mystical abstraction ,as a result of not recognizing the context of causality,and disregard for the axiom of Identity.
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

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When you see lion and elephant dung on the ground when on safari, you assume both lions and elephants have been around; you DON'T assume that some magical animal with properties of both lions AND elephants has been around.

Similarly, when you see evidence of waves and particles, you should assume that both waves and particles are present.
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

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I keep going back to this model. It seems to be a incredibly rational and plauseable model that I really think makes much more sense. Two interacting particles are one Photon. The so called wave collapse function is the splitting of the two particles to go through both slits at the same time, instead of going through one slit together in the uncollapsed state.
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

Unread postby bboyer » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:13 am

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Consider, in dynamic equilibrium, a photon formed by two particles whose electric charges are opposed, and for this reason they attract each other.

Not a lot of detail on that site.
Are these two oppositely charged particles meant to be [the] elementary particles of nature ?
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

Unread postby bboyer » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:14 am

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No just of a photon. Fairly straight forward idea. Not a lot involved to take the next step to this paradigm.
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

Unread postby bboyer » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:15 am

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junglelord wrote:I keep going back to this model. It seems to be a incredibly rational and plauseable model that I really think makes much more sense. Two interacting particles are one Photon. The so called wave collapse function is the splitting of the two particles to go through both slits at the same time, instead of going through one slit together in the uncollapsed state.


I agree there is something too this, but my problem is this. If they spin around one another, and are particles, what type of particle? And if they ahve charges why do they not react to charges? How can Lasers work with this? What is coherent light then?

I love the theory but my brain hurts adapting it ;P
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

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The best proof was made with a microwave oscillator and a receptor measuring the field strength, showing clearly the paths of photons in both lineal and circular polarizations (see experiments)


Objectives of the experiments
When the translational movement is perpendicular to the rotation plane, then the trajectory is in spiral, called circular polarization. Any intermediate position will produce an elliptical polarization.

In accordance with the proposed model of Mr. Victor Urbina, in a polarized environment the two particles that form the photon move with trajectories visualized below:

Linear Polarization (parallel rotation in line with this page):

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Circular Polarization (rotation perpendicular to the page):

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The following experiments were carried out with the objective to observe if the trajectories predicted by the proposed model coincide with the trajectories detected by the laboratory instruments. The results were confirmed.


Experiments
Linear Polarization (parallel rotation in line with this page):

For this experiment a Gunn diode oscillator was used coupled to a resonant cavity which its frequency adjusted to 10.5 Ghz, 2.855 cm wavelength without modulation and focused by a parabolic antenna.

A horizontal movement mechanism with a metallic plate was installed with the edge at the center of the microwave beam, measuring every millimeter, as seen in figure:

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These results were plotted where the horizontal axis coincides with the movement of the plate in centimeters and vertically the field strength in microwatts.

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In this graphic it is clearly observed that the trajectories are not sinusoidals but coincides exactly with the empty spaces of the plate following double cycloidal paths which are generated by a spinning wheel, which the tangential speed is the same as its translational speed.

It is interesting to observe that the peaks of minimum power coincide exactly with half of the wavelength, which is 1.4 cm. It is demonstrated that the path of the electromagnetic radiation is not sinusoidal. Instead, the trajectories are cycloidal in plane polarization. The simple harmonic movement generates this path.

Circular Polarization (rotation perpendicular to the page):

In this experiment the same equipment was used but instead of the parabolic antenna, two helical antennas were used. The edge of the metallic plate at the center of the beam was moved horizontally every millimeter, measuring the field strength. As shown in figure:

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Plotting the X axis distance in millimeters and the field strength in Y axis (microwatts), and overlapping with the two dimensional projection of two spiral trajectories which are two sinusoidal figures, the following figure is obtained.

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http://lighttheory.com/light/experiments.htm
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

Unread postby bboyer » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:27 am

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Mistakes of the Current Photon Model
All the spectrum of electromagnetic radiation (including visible light) from long-wave radio frequencies to cosmic rays is constituted by photons.

Although the current models suggest a photon is a single particle, experiments have demonstrated that a photon can exist in 2 places simultaneously.

If it only a single particle it is diffucult to undestand why photons have a spin equal to one, when most of subatomic particles have spins of + - 1/2?

This sole fact suggests two particles rather than one in one photon
. Or, as Hawking suggests for a spinning subatomic particle: "when particles have spins equal to one, a gyration of 360ª should be produced, so its position is the same than initial one."

Another common misconception, is to define light color by its wave length, but this view does not take into account other factors , since it also depends on its velocity, which in turn depends on the media in which it moves, such as air, vacuum, water, crystal, etc.

If the equation stating that velocity is the product of wavelength by frequency, then when velocity decreases, what other variable changes, frequency or wavelength?

As color does not change when passing to through other mediums, it suggests that frequency remains constant while wavelength decreases in size.

Therefore, color depends only on frequency. But how can a photon, being a single particle "remember" its color? Or in other words, how can a single particle be frequency coded?



The present photon model cannot explain the different polarization properties, or how a photon moves in a lineal or elliptical polarization. If a photon is a single particle, how can it be explained that its total charge is zero, while it produces an electric and magnetic field?

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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

Unread postby bboyer » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:39 am

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New Photon Model
Consider, in dynamic equilibrium, a photon formed by two particles whose electric charges are opposed, and for this reason they attract each other.

This attraction is equilibrated by the centrifugal force generated when rotating one with the other. By rotating electrical charged particles, a perpendicular magnetic field is generated, also perpendicular to a stationary observer.


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Charge:
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Planck Constant:
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Speed of light
in vacuum:

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Coulomb Constant:

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Following are definitions of the considered photon:

DISTANCE BETWEEN PARTICLES: It is exactly the wavelength divided by pi (3.1416):

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TANGENTIAL VELOCITY:
Coincides tangential velocity with the translational velocity, and in a vacuum equals:

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PARTICLE MASS: It is relativistic; in other words, it depends on its frequency. Individual particle mass is equally spread. Otherwise, an unbalanced pattern in their trajectory will be obtained. Individual particle mass:

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PARTICLE CHARGE: Is calculated equaling centrifugal force to the electrostatic attraction force.

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This charge is 16.558 times an electron charge.

SYSTEM ENERGY:
Is the sum of translational kinetic energy plus rotational kinetic energy.
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http://lighttheory.com/light/proposed.htm

How does Light work References

http://lighttheory.com/light/references.htm
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

Unread postby bboyer » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:43 am

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"Krackonis" I agree there is something too this, but my problem is this. If they spin around one another, and are particles, what type of particle? And if they have charges why do they not react to charges? How can Lasers work with this? What is coherent light then?


Here is an interesting take on the Two Particle Photon and the answer to that question. I emailed this to the creator of the first model. I spoke to him seven years ago and told him I really liked his model. This is from the Meyl Scalar Wave book. Its proposition is that the Photon is two interrelating electron positron vortex pairs. This is a second model of a two particle photon. This gives a reason for the Z Pinch which I thought was fundamental to the things we need to learn.

[quote]
The photon
The ability to form structures as a consequence of the concentration effect gives the potential vortex a number of highly interesting properties. To derive these properties we can make work easier when we fall back upon the observations and experiences of flow dynamics.

Here the vortex ring takes a special place. Its vortex centre is not closed, for which reason it is not stationary and propagates in space with a constant speed. It can be observed that the velocity of propagation increases with the ring diameter becoming smaller. By means of the vortex rings, that skilful smokers can produce with pointed lips, these properties can be made visible.

Now if two vortex rings run into each other with the same axis and direction of rotation then both oscillate around each other, by one vortex attracting the other vortex, thereby accelerating and thus contracting it. The second vortex then slips through the core opening and gets again slower and larger. Now the first vortex accelerates and plays the same game (fig. 4.5).
It would be obvious for the vortex of the electric field to have a corresponding property. The electron e- and with the opposite swirl direction the positron e+ will form such a potential vortex corresponding to the derivation. Two electrons, as like charged particles, would repel each other and surely will be out of the question for such a configuration.

An electron and a positron however will attract each other and because of their incompatibility they will mutually destroy unless they open their vortex centres to form a vortex ring. Now the e- shows its positively charged centre that shows the same swirl direction as the e+ seen from the outside. Therefore the vortices don't hurt each other, when the positron slips through the opened vortex centre of the electron and vice versa.

This oscillating electron-positron pair has strange properties: seen from the outside one moment it is negatively charged and the next moment it is positively charged. Therefore over time on the average no charge will be measurable and no electromagnetic interaction will take place.

One moment the particle is matter and the next moment it is anti-matter. Hence no mass at all can be attributed to the particle. Interactions primarily takes place between both dual vortices. We can predict, the particle has neither mass nor charge. The environment merely sees a fast oscillating particle that only within every half cycle is capable of an interaction.

The centre of the oscillating particle is open, for which reason it is not stationary anymore. Instead it propagates in z-direction with the swirl velocity, which is the speed of light, in this way preventing a rotation around the x- or y- axis (fig. 4.6). In this way a polarizability is present.

The only possible and, as we will see, necessarily taking place rotation around the z-axis gives the particle a spin of the magnitude of a quantum of angular momentum. After all the rotation for e- and e+ is of the same magnitude with a spin of each time There should be paid attention to the fact that for the case of an opposite sense of direction of the respective rotation around the common z-axis the spin on the average will be zero.


In addition the particle is characterized by an outstanding property: a periodically taking place oscillation with any frequency, but that frequency has to be constant.

We now only have to take a table of particles to hand. Actually we will find a corresponding particle that has all these properties: the also called photon.

Proof for the correctness of the model concept provides the decay of the photon in an electron and a positron in the presence of a strong field, as for instance in an atomic nucleus. This observable decay is called pair creation or Bethe-Heitler process: (4.2)

In this process the elementary vortices for a short time get back their localization and are therefore detectable. Otherwise the electron and positron have the form of a sphere, the photon however rather has the form of two oscillating discs.

The photon doesn't participate in the electromagnetic interaction, because the electric field lines run from one disc to the other (from + to -). The field lines are not open as they are for e- or e+ (fig. 4.3). To open up the field lines an energy is necessary that corresponds to the sum of the two formed particles. But from this it by no means follows that this amount
of energy will be released in the reversed and much better known process, where matter and anti-matter annihilate under emission of At the end of the derivation the vortex model will provide us the desired answers on questions of the energy of photons.

Here first of all only the properties will be concerned.
Experiments, in which light shows as a particle, are the photoelectric effect, the Compton effect and a lot more. According to the by Maxwell developed classical theory of light however is light an electromagnetic wave that is not quantized in any way, neither as sphere nor as disc, the wave nature of light as well has a physical reality and is secured by
experiment. This is witnessed by the interference patterns of overlapping coherent light beams.

A concept in which light could exist at the same place and the same time both as wave and as corpuscle could never be brought into accord with the principle of causality. Formulas of compromise, like the uncertainty principle of Heisenberg that refers to the point of view of the observer, can't change anything about this dilemma. The dual nature of light,
that in this context is gladly spoken of, rather consists of the fact that dependent on the local field conditions, any time and spontaneously the wave can roll up to a vortex.

As an example of a violation of the principle of causality it has been indicated under point 3 (fig. 3.1) that both fields and quanta at the same time should be the cause of something.

This concept was formulated by Maxwell and written down in modern quantum electrodynamics by Dirac but in the field-theoretical approach we have dropped this concept because it violates all rules of causality in an elementary manner. Therefore it only is consistent, if we hold the view that the light is either wave or particle but never is both at the same time!

In the spontaneous transition of the wave to the particle all the important properties are conserved: the propagation with the speed of light, the characteristic frequency of the oscillation and the mentioned polarizability.

The process of rolling up possibly takes place already in the laboratory, in a bubble chamber and at the latest in our eyes. To receive the electromagnetic wave, we had to have antennas. We actually see the photons. It therefore would be obvious if our cells to see only could perceive vortices, in this case photons. We don't possess a sense organ for fields and waves.



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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

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Unprecedented Spectroscopy Using the Best Ever Ruler for Light

here is an interesting news article from Physics news weekly, one of my favorite sites.

Using pulsed laser light of multiple frequencies, a optical laser comb, researchers were able to improve Spectroscopy results dramaticly.

Physicists at NIST-Boulder have carried out a powerful new spectroscopic study of a sample of gas using optical frequency combs. The NIST work, which might well change the way spectroscopy is done, is remarkable in that it provides the full spectrum of the gas over a broad spectral region and with frequency accuracy that can reach 1 Hz (for spectral frequencies of the order of 2 x 10^14 Hz). The NIST spectroscopic feat is equivalent to simultaneously sending 155,000 individual single frequency lasers through the sample and measuring the resulting amplitude and phase shift on each individual laser. Moreover, the spectrum is measured rapidly, using a device with no moving mechanical parts.

The invention of the optical frequency comb method was a great step forward in laser science. John Hall (NIST) and Ted Haensch (Max Planck) the Nobel prize in 2005 for their pioneering work in this area. (For a tutorial on frequency combs, see http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/news ... _combs.htm) In the comb process, a pulsed laser emits light not merely at a single frequency, but at a series of frequencies. A frequency spectrum of this composite laser output looks like a comb, with light occurring at regularly spaced frequencies, covering the infrared part of the light spectrum. In many ways the frequency comb is an ideal tool for spectroscopy. Its light covers enormous amounts of the optical spectrum and the frequency of each individual comb line can be known to 1-Hz precision. When you pass a frequency comb through a gas cell a given comb line will, like any laser beam, be absorbed when it is resonant with any of the many quantum energy levels of the gas.

The challenge with frequency combs is to figure out which of the more than one-hundred thousand comb lines experience absorption and which do not. To solve this problem NIST researchers take the comb used for spectroscopy and mix it with a second carefully crafted frequency-comb. This ensemble of light pulses results in a “beat-frequency” pulse which can be measured with conventional electronics. From this beat-frequency pulse the absorption and phase shift experienced by each individual comb line can be separately observed. This work represents by far the largest number of frequency comb teeth that have been individually observed.

The present NIST experiment interrogates the effect of the absorption from the gas on 155,000 comb lines, spanning a wavelength range of 125 nm. The NIST precision of 1 Hz for spectral lines is to be compared with tens of MHz precision characterizing other spectroscopic techniques. NIST researchers believe that this new work might change the way people perform spectroscopy. (Coddington{ian@nist.gov, 303-497-4889}, Swann, Newbury, Physical Review Letters, 11 January 2008; PRL editors designate this as a Suggested Article)
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

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Junglelord, it seems we have jumped on a number of common bandwagons in our search for a more unifying and universal truth. Let me make some propositions for your consideration... regard them as questions if you please, but I've found some very satisfying principles here:
1. Photons do not exist as particles or waves, nor as particle-waves.
2. Photons are simply planck-diametered cones of force/pressure radiating toward, not emanating from, a centroid of action.
3. A typical cause of light action involves the potential drop of an electron to a "lower energy state", or hopping back from an excited state...
4. The di-electric nature of a photon is due to its directionality [call it a ray or vector, but only diagramatically, in reality a conic beam].
5. The photon's directionality, not speed [the c-rate], results in instantaneous action at a distance. [See Ralph Sansbury elsewhere, he's way smarter than me about this, although I found myself disagreeing with a fundamental of his regarding the significance of the light action along the light line-vector... he feels [I think] that the significant light action is perpendicular to the light line and that the other is negligible.]
5. The effect of light action is a tug at the peripheral ray endpoint, be it a retinal photoreceptor, or any particle in the line of fire, so to speak, not a jolt due to "impact" of an approaching particle or wavefront.
7. It can be readily shown that light does not "interfere" [a la Young] as it traverses a double slit apparatus... first there are no waves involved, and second the pattern does not match the theory of intersecting wavefronts.
else, how could a single photon produce an interference pattern [yet it does!]? Spectra in general inclusive of so-called diffraction and interference patterns are manifestations of the pressure gradient found perpendicular to the central light line. Colors are the manifestation of particular sectors of this pressure gradient, manifested as the gradient is ordered by raindrops, a prism, a camera obscura, or slit device; whether single, double, or multiple [as in a diffraction grating], the color pattern persists, contrary to Young's wrong belief that the pattern only shows up when the beamsplitter of the double slit device is added. The pattern is clearly visible with a single slit, a single slit edge, with the beamsplitter alone, or in various other configurations which cannot be explained as interference. Colors of dyes, filters, etc. are due to the selective absorption/reflection of the gradient at the molecular level, without regard to either wavelength or frequency!

There's a bit to chew. What do y'all think?
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

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I think your second number five should be a six
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Let me dwell on that and get back to you.
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Re: Recovered: New Theory of Light

Unread postby bboyer » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:46 am

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
OP "junglelord"

Well I am not sure I agree with #5 about action at a distance being a relationship to light, but rather a relationship to the longitudinal magneto dielectric force in the hydromagnetic field.
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