I think I can see that, what you're getting at.biknewb wrote: I am having a hard time trying to visualize this double vortex nature of reality. But in this description:I suddenly saw one vortex "Idea>blueprint" and another vortex "blueprint>building". This phenomenon has a symmetry that can be played forward and backwards in time.@rc-us wrote: ... so the architect conceives or gets a concept of a building and, working backwards from that, draws up plans/blueprints to bring it across-over-down into grosser, physical existence.
I may be wrong completely so I'd better get back to visualizing vortices in three fields.
I don't know how many times I've heard artists say ... well, for example, a sculptor who says how he "sees" the image in the raw block of stone or clay, whatever, and then more or less just chips away at what doesn't belong, working backward to "release" the image he had already forseen. Writers, many who say they work backwards from the ending to arrive at the start of a story; they "see" how it's all going to end and then write, plot it, backwards. The movie director who "sees" an entire movie play out in his head as on a mental movie screen, often again knowing how the story ends before arriving at a middle and beginning. Then there are others who just plow methodically ahead with no idea of where the sculpture, story, movie is going; relying on instinct and intuition to guide. Does the artist do the art, or does the art do the artist? I think they arise together. I do recognize, however, that this level of ... mastery ... doesn't arrive overnight. Few child prodigies arrive for whatever reason. So there is a level of apprenticeship, I reckon, where things go along very methodically, very mechanically, very cause-and-effect oriented; learning and mastering technique. Not any different than any trade, art, or profession. And mastery isn't guaranteed. Many never rise beyond the acceptable technnician level and really never master anything. (Umm, that would be me, btw. ) Junglelord scribed a really decent post about this earlier.
How's that saying go ... youth is wasted on the young? Probably "education" too, at least as how we know it. 20/20 hindsight ... don't think I'd be using it now if I'd known how to "look" into the ending of my life at the beginning of my life. But, hey! Look! Not dead ... yet. Shoot ... now, how did that ending go?
Okay, I'm rambling. Sorry. So, yeah, they appear maleable, these vortexes of whatever.