Do we need Free Energy at all ?

[rangerover777]

Sometimes it seems to me that the rush for the free-energy is similar to the
rush for the gold, for the electricity discovery, for cars, for the atomic bomb,
to space. Etc. What so common about them is that human don’t realize the
consequences of it’s temporary urge to develop a new technology that
eventually will harm nature and human himself…… Evidently every new product
that 7 billion people on earth need - will eventually will cause much damage.

I’m not sure how many of you are aware of the “Electromagnetic Pollution” we are
currently experiencing worldwide. All the electric machines that we are exposing
on a daily basis, are radiating magnetic field, power lines, cell phones, computers,
transformers - wherever they are, bar magnets, motors, radar waves, sonar (in the sea),
light bulbs, radio & TV waves, military applications, satellite communication, cars,
even the outlets at your home (when no instrument is connected) and the list is endless.

Since the fossil fuel age is about to come to a halt in 15 to 20 years, and the rush for
a new energy source is franticly peruses. Naturally electricity seems to be the cleanest
solution……but maybe not so ?

The effect of electromagnetism on human and animals is only little known. Only at
very concentrated quantities, like some cell phones and power lines that close to
residence area - are consider to be harmful. But what about worldwide emission ?
Not necessarily in one area but the sum total ?

As you know, electromagnetic / magnetic waves are passing non stop through our
bodies, organs and brains, almost wherever we are in our daily lives. Our body itself
works on delicate electromagnetic currents (through the nerve system). Think how little
is needed to interfere and cause an imbalance in such a system.

Unfortunately modern human always “discover” the damage after the fact……after the rush…
So maybe free energy is not really what we need now ?

[Lloyd]

See http://emr2.webs.com for some of the details about cell phone and related dangers.
Nuclear power is safe enough now to provide a considerable abundance of future energy supply.

[mharratsc]

I think Range is referring more to EM/RF Pollution, vs 'safe alternatives to coal and oil."

I know what you mean, Range. Whales getting all geeked out, geese flying every which way- many suspect because we're junking out our environment with high levels of ground-based electromagnetic 'traffic'.

Someone will probably do a study after 20 years and determine that we're broadcasting too much. Then they'll start incorporating shielding in everything to reduce the pollution, just like how asbestos was the Miracle Material until it was determined to cause cancer and other issues.

It certainly won't be a fast response to the issue. Mankind is notorious for putting up with a quite a bit of pain and discomfort if it earns us the convenience of instant electric power and wireless technologies :\

[Lloyd]

Mike, you seem to have overlooked my first sentence about RF radiation etc. My second sentence was in response to Rover's comment about the fossil fuel age coming to an end.

[rangerover777]

I understand that EU are not that much after developing an Over-Unity / Free Energy
device that will eventually give an answer to energy consumption crisis. On the other
hand the EU can definitely contribute and investigate the outcome of Electromagnetic
Emission (natural and man-made) and it’s consequences on life on earth / weather
patterns and other effects. And do it on all scales (private homes, zones on earth and
the total earth).

I search the net for serious investigations on this topic and there are very few and old
ones, mainly from 2001 about the cell-phone hysteria, but that’s all. Also I don’t mean
to spread fears and to get rating and attention in return, but raise the awareness for that.

This topic came to my mind after I bought a Gauss meter and started to walk in and
around my house. I was quit surprise to realize how much electromagnetic radiation
is going on around all the time, day and night….. Though I understand the Health
Department and FCC have their regulations and standards, I don’t think they understand
the whole story and the long range ramifications of being exposed to such radiation.
Especially the fact that in 10 - 20 years we are going to experience an “electromagnetic
radiation explosion” worldwide, due to hi-tech new technologies (communications,
satellites, computers, etc.), Hi-voltage new grids and due to the "new electric energy solutions".

All these “coming soon events” are intriguing new thinking and preparations.
And maybe the EU group can give their prediction on that, since they are the experts here.

Cheers.

[junglelord]

Nice video on free energy
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/pub ... 8820.shtml

[Orlando]

Sorry to poop on the Parade people but these terms and thoughts are half-truths.

All inventions or tech-Knowlege has come about by the careful and obedient observing , experimenting and application of learning some Natural Process or event cycle.

My case and point;

Man is feverishly trying to build a robot that can outperform a Living Organism.
Nature has done this in the Human Creation or lifecycle.

Our being is from a seed and an egg with genetic blends that programmed a series of events that biologically
built an Organic aotomaton.

Man works to succeed this, we use calcium to house a Plasma Cell, doubling as a structural skeleton, millions of hardwired nano circuitry, advanced bio-chemical energy production from chemical reactions into a seemless organized organic machine that can produce 100's of percent output from a few fruits veggies and fibres.

The brain acting as a central nervous centre with no manipulation other than a programming sequence.
We are an electro-magnetic-Plasma Discharfe Phenomenon.

The Calcium or trace minerals inside me are not me, this form is not me, nothing is free, All is free.

We musnt confuse how we come to understand this wonderful experience.
We measure Energy as a means to determine cost/applicability/efficiency, that's it, the very Flow of the Serpent eating its tail is in itself Life.

I am what I am because of where I am in relation to other things around me,not because of Who I am, our action or in-action sets the stage for who we are.

2 neighbors cut down a tree each, they both chop it up for their weekly fuel supply,
one is attentive and mindfully learns about his interactions with his work output, while the other gets into a mindless habit of chucking the wood in the fireplace.
The mindfull starts to build a gasification system realizing that co and co2 are combustible whereby increasing the efficiency of the heat to volume of wood used, he uses a tree a month while the rest of the town start fighting over tree rights, bla,bla,bla.

Efficiency is the key , not Free.
I have been eating healthier and ride my bike to work, my neighbour drives his gasmobile.
He must realize there is a cost to his Lifestyle, as I have greatly reduced mine freeing up money in RELATION to his lifestlye.

If there exists over 1 million or so electron volts in one cubic metre of atmosphere, the question should be why is it there,
because its our environment, we live, get charged and are part of this energy, what if I had a machine to harness it, I do!
ME!

I am made of it.

Peace
Or

[bdw000]

The physical effects of EM fields on biological systems are discussed in several books (there are probably many more):

http://www.amazon.com/Currents-Death-Pa ... 583&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Cross-Currents-Ro ... 729&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Electromagnetic-F ... 729&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Body-Electric-Ele ... 868&sr=1-1


Can't claim any knowledge, but if I had to guess (being the paranoid type), I'd say that EM fields probably have some sort of "control of humans" element to them.

If there is a "nonphysical" side to things (my personal guess), I would also be worried that EM radiation can affect that to some degree.

Just guesses.

[mague]

The physical effects of EM fields on biological systems are discussed in several books (there are probably many more):

Well, even our "lazy" .GOV is observing EM radiation. That makes it basically "official" in my country

http://www.bfs.de/en/elektro



Besides that we do need to iron. Vegetables, salads etc. Even if there is no measurable effect of EM fields, those fields will have some impact.