History of the Earth

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History of the Earth

Unread postby moses » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:40 am

Earth's origins are unknown. The oldest (Precambrian)
rocks are greatly folded. And some of these rocks
appear that they have been eroded away. Although
these oldest rocks could have been formed and folded
quickly and then eroded quickly, chances say that it
took a long time.

Theory:
Earth consisting of only Precambrian rocks
came into electrified contact with Mars, which had
life. The electric current flowed between Earth
and Mars and probably Saturn amd maybe Jupiter. As
the current travelled past Earth it divided into
probably four forks, three of which went over the
Atlantic Ocean, the Pacific Ocean and the Indian
Ocean plus Siberia. This current caused EDM
(electric discharge machining) on one hemisphere of
Mars and on Earth in the three areas above.

A laminated flow was produced on Earth consisting
of the Earth ocean bottom rocks, Earth seawater and
Martian creatures, rocks and water. Laminated
sediments resulted and these are known as the
Cambrian rocks. Such laminated sediments were formed
at Mt St Helens due to the eruption. A large variety
of complex fossils are to be found in the Cambrian
rocks. These fossils came from Mars.

Each time Earth came close to Mars electrical
conditions became extreme and a new set of sediments
were laid on Earth. The fossils in these sediments
consisted of more evolved Martian creatures plus now
some creatures survived on Earth and evolved and also
became part of these sediments. Fossils were only formed
in the laminated flow. The bones of Earthian creatures
that lived and died between these flows did not form
fossils.

As electrical conditions moderated there came a time
when Martian creatures and rocks did not reach Earth.
This would be after the dinosaur fossils, as dinosaurs
and other giant creatures could only live on Mars.
Thus the recent Earthian (Cenozoic) rocks consisted
only of Earthian creatures and Precambrian rocks at
the bottom of the oceans that underwent EDM. There is
some evidence that a mineral ratio is about the same
in the Cenozoic and Precambrian rocks but quite
different in rocks from the middle period (Mesozoic).
Martian rocks can be considered quite likely to have
the mineral ratio required to account for the
difference between the Precambrian and Cenozoic rocks.

After some near approaches of Mars to Earth, the EDM
of the Earth's oceans stopped. Thereafter lay a time
of flourishing conditions on Earth, and maybe on Mars
as well ! Stable conditions could have been reached
with a long period of prosperity occurring. There may
have been dinosaurs on Mars whilst our ancestors lived
on Earth ! So fire breathing dragons could have been
dinosaurs coming out of the sky in electrical
conditions, other than the more likely cometary
planets as dragons. And dinosaurs may have been
visible on Mars during closest approach.

Then the connection between Earth and Mars was broken
as possibly the whole chain of planets in the Saturn
System broke up. We have not begun to recover from
the effects of this trauma on human DNA. Ice ages
and many planetary interactions followed. Likewise
this affected DNA. Understanding what happened is the
first step to recovery.
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hydrocarbons in strata.

Unread postby moses » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:58 pm

hydrocarbons in strata.
One would expect that strata that experienced lots of life
would get more carbon from the atmosphere and so produce
more hydrocarbons. Even allowing for initial carbon content
of different strata and transmutation to carbon, one would
expect strata with lots of tree-like material, catastrophically
produced, to form hydrocarbon deposits.

In my scheme of things the strata were formed from laminated
flows with the source material being the Earth's oceans plus
Martian rocks. So the material would be heated and undergo
electrical effects. Perfect conditions, maybe, for the
formation of hydrocarbons. The sorting mechanism in the
lamination process might explain the coal seams found in
stratified deposits.
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Re: History of the Earth

Unread postby mague » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:23 pm

Hello moses,

interesting read. But why Mars ?

Isnt the asteroid belt the best candidate for being the source of life seeds within your theory ?
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Re: History of the Earth

Unread postby moses » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:46 pm

Hello mague,
I have life originally from Mars and before Mars I know not.
You are maybe suggesting that the asteroid belt is the
remnant of some astral body that had life on it, and this
astral body cracked up and the resultant rocks were
collected by Earth as it passed by on an elliptical orbit.
Am I close ?

It does not have to be Mars, but it does have to be a body
that stays alive with life evolving/changing on this body
as the fossils show change in the likely creatures from
the other astral body. Both bodies would much more likely
to have been in orbit around either Saturn or Jupiter. Old
human stories identify the astral body as Mars, but this
may be an error.
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Re: History of the Earth

Unread postby moses » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:09 pm

http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=q1q6sz2s
The Moon is at the solar wind plasma potential, judging by its lack of any substantial plasma sheath. So it has no significant damping of eccentricity via charge exchange with the solar wind.
Wal

This seems to suggest that the Moon was in a
similar orbit for a long time. Whereas Mercury
is newly arrived at it's present position. So
this suggests the Moon was not part of the
Saturn System.

Meanwhile, for some months each year at full phase the Moon passes through the Earth’s plasma sheath, which will give a nudge to the Moon’s orbit by transferring charge from the Earth.
Wal

The Moon would then presumably get a lot more
nudging if it got closer to the Earth's double
layer. This nudging probably helped the planet
trapping mechanism. So the Moon was near it's
present orbit and the Earth came from the
Saturn System and joined the Moon.
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Re: hydrocarbons in strata.

Unread postby Total Science » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:07 pm

moses wrote:hydrocarbons in strata.
One would expect that strata that experienced lots of life
would get more carbon from the atmosphere and so produce
more hydrocarbons.

Hydrocarbons aren't formed in the atmosphere. They are formed in the mantle.

Even allowing for initial carbon content
of different strata and transmutation to carbon, one would
expect strata with lots of tree-like material, catastrophically
produced, to form hydrocarbon deposits.

No tree has ever produced a complex hydrocarbon chain because it violates Clausius's Second Law of Thermodynamics.
"The ancients possessed a plasma cosmology and physics themselves, and from laboratory experiments, were well familiar with the patterns exhibited by Peratt's petroglyphs." -- Joseph P. Farrell, author, 2007
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Re: History of the Earth

Unread postby moses » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:11 am

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2009/ ... artian.htm
It’s likely that crustal rocks from Earth could be electrically deposited on Mars and heated.
Mel Acheson

This idea agreeing with my theory of dinosaurs coming from Mars and
possibly finding fossils on Mars and the Moon. If crustal rocks from
Earth can get to Mars, then Mars rocks and life can get to Earth. And
maybe any planetary interaction can transfer material between the
planets.
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Re: History of the Earth

Unread postby moses » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:54 pm

The 'line of dichotomy' is a large cliff that runs all the way around Mars splitting it into two equal sized hemispheres. However these hemispheres are 35 degrees to the Martian axis. Considering that one of these hemispheres underwent electrical discharge machining (EDM), then either the axis of Mars has moved, or else the line of dichotomy was formed in the one interplanetary meeting.

If the axis of Mars has shifted by 35 degrees then that severely goes against the theory that the similarity of tilt of Earth, Mars and Saturn has been retained from an earlier planetary configuration.
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Re: History of the Earth

Unread postby moses » Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:41 pm

There was various human races with varying degrees of civilization living on Earth at the time of the Saturn System break-up. There were only a small number of survivors that managed to reproduce. The Neanderthals were among them. Little evidence of the bodies of the previous humans exist, only some of the structures like the Great Pyramid.

Most creation stories come from the period of these survivors emerging from underground. They must have had some idea that their previous sky was gone, but what they found was a completely new sky with stars and cometary bodies, and a new main body - the Sun.

The ancient Egyptian images mainly depict the sky. The Djed was a stack of toroids that ran through the magnetosphere(Osiris) of Venus, thus appearing as the backbone of Osiris. The sacred beetle occurred in the Sun-Earth-Moon, or Sun-Earth-Mars conjunctions at sunset. As the Moon rose the cone shaped magnetosphere of Earth appeared as two prongs reaching up from Earth towards the Moon. Thus it appeared that a beetle rose up out of the ground into the sky underneath the Moon. At such times there was much lightning and a tree of lightning could be seen.

There may well have been survivors in Egypt due to the underground caves, the Nile still flowing and grain or other food stockpiles.
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Re: History of the Earth

Unread postby moses » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:37 am

Large scale volcanics and the Neanderthals:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 094057.htm
"Geological layers containing the ashes also hold evidence of an abrupt and potentially devastating climate change."

So was this abrupt climate change caused by a planetary visitor, and were the Neanderthals in survival mode from a previous calamity, and this later event just about wiped them out.
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the big picture

Unread postby moses » Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:14 pm

One thing that we know is that the Earth's magnetic field is decreasing. A few thousand years ago pottery suggests that the magnetic field was double the strength of now, and the measured field since the 1800s supports such a decrease. Even if the magnetic field does flip, it had better flip quickly and pretty soon or else the earth's magnetic field will no longer protect us, or rather our children and grandchildren...

If one considers that the Earth was caught in a Birkeland current which shaped the surface and generated a remanent magnetic field, then one wonders if this is how life begins everywhere in the universe. First there would be a 'womb' stage where the planet is cradled in the Birkeland current which decreases in intensity until there is a stage where the light and temperature is perfect for life. After the separation from this Birkeland current, or 'birth' of the planet, the magnetic field decays so that there is only a few thousand years suitable for life if the planet is in the 'goldilocks' zone of some star. Pretty sobering.

The Earth is the only Earth-sized, or less, planet or moon with a sizeable magnetic field. This suggests that the Earth's history is fundamentally different to all the other planets and moons, including Mars. If Earth was in a planetary system with another similar-sized planet then that planet was destroyed or is not in the Solar System. The ancient Earth rocks are twisted and folded so that long ago before the Earth was in the Birkeland current, it underwent other electrical forces. It looks like the Earth has a long history and presumably originated outside the Solar System.

So our plight of the decreasing magnetic field has presumably occurred multiple times in our galaxy. Also catastrophic events must also be common. Do we have to find a way to survive all by ourselves or do we get help from aliens. My guess is both. Aliens will not want to help us in our present state. We need to heal from the catastrophes to become acceptable to the aliens. And this is the big picture.
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Mars

Unread postby moses » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:22 pm

Mars seems like our Moon or Io in that tha same face of the Moon points to Earth, and if an electrical discharge occurred between Mars and some larger planet, like happens on Io, then that could explain the missing material of one hemisphere only of Mars. Now if Mars orbitted this bigger planet in 24 hrs, or so, then that would appear to explain the nearly 24 hr rotation of Mars, however this would have produced an axis of rotation nearly perpendicular to the current axis. Perhaps a more likely explanation is the Velikovskian-type scenario of Mars flipping when coming near to Earth and then electrical thunderbolts between the planets synchronised their rotations. Mars would have got a small magnetic field from this interaction and so would have flipped back under the influence of the Sun's magnetic field.

If Mars and Earth were between between two big Saturn-size objects, then one would expect that both planets would have got big magnetic fields from the Birkeland current that would have flowed past and through both planets. So due to this and the above I no longer think that it was Mars that was in the so-called Saturn System with Earth, but that there was another planet which was destroyed or escaped the Solar System. The human survivors of the break-up would have been very unlikely to be able to track the other planet, and so it is only a guess that Mars was the other planet. Thus dinosaurs did not come from Mars, but instead came from this other planet of which there seems to be no trace. If it formed the asteroid belt then the asteroids should hold a strong magnetic field.

This opens up some possibilities, and I think the whole picture needs constant review.
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Re: History of the Earth

Unread postby JeffreyW » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:23 pm

GTSM explains that Earth was a large star that shunk over time and left over it's solid remains. We can see this shrinking in the form of the other stars mislabled "planets/moons".

Earth once looked like Neptune/Uranus/Jupiter and Saturn and even the sun.
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Re: History of the Earth

Unread postby mixtyroyy » Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:39 pm

moses wrote:Earth's origins are unknown. The oldest (Precambrian)
rocks are greatly folded. And some of these rocks
appear that they have been eroded away. Although
these oldest rocks could have been formed and folded
quickly and then eroded quickly, chances say that it
took a long time.

Theory:
Earth consisting of only Precambrian rocks
came into electrified contact with Mars, which had
life. The electric current flowed between Earth
and Mars and probably Saturn amd maybe Jupiter. As
the current travelled past Earth it divided into
probably four forks, three of which went over the
Atlantic Ocean, the Pacific Ocean and the Indian
Ocean plus Siberia. This current caused EDM
(electric discharge machining) on one hemisphere of
Mars and on Earth in the three areas above.

A laminated flow was produced on Earth consisting
of the Earth ocean bottom rocks, Earth seawater and
Martian creatures, rocks and water. Laminated
sediments resulted and these are known as the
Cambrian rocks. Such laminated sediments were formed
at Mt St Helens due to the eruption. A large variety
of complex fossils are to be found in the Cambrian
rocks. These fossils came from Mars.

Each time Earth came close to Mars electrical
conditions became extreme and a new set of sediments
were laid on Earth. The fossils in these sediments
consisted of more evolved Martian creatures plus now
some creatures survived on Earth and evolved and also
became part of these sediments. Fossils were only formed
in the laminated flow. The bones of Earthian creatures
that lived and died between these flows did not form
fossils.

As electrical conditions moderated there came a time
when Martian creatures and rocks did not reach Earth.
This would be after the dinosaur fossils, as dinosaurs
and other giant creatures could only live on Mars.
Thus the recent Earthian (Cenozoic) rocks consisted
only of Earthian creatures and Precambrian rocks at
the bottom of the oceans that underwent EDM. There is
some evidence that a mineral ratio is about the same
in the Cenozoic and Precambrian rocks but quite
different in rocks from the middle period (Mesozoic).
Martian rocks can be considered quite likely to have
the mineral ratio required to account for the
difference between the Precambrian and Cenozoic rocks.

After some near approaches of Mars to Earth, the EDM
of the Earth's oceans stopped. Thereafter lay a time
of flourishing conditions on Earth, and maybe on Mars
as well ! Stable conditions could have been reached
with a long period of prosperity occurring. There may
have been dinosaurs on Mars whilst our ancestors lived
on Earth ! So fire breathing dragons could have been
dinosaurs coming out of the sky in electrical
conditions, other than the more likely cometary
planets as dragons. And dinosaurs may have been
visible on Mars during closest approach.

Then the connection between Earth and Mars was broken
as possibly the whole chain of planets in the Saturn
System broke up. We have not begun to recover from
the effects of this trauma on human DNA. Ice ages
and many planetary interactions followed. Likewise
this affected DNA. Understanding what happened is the
first step to recovery.
Mo





Wow! I have read so many theories about the creation and history of earth but this one seems to be the most credible of them all! Thanks for sharing! :)
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The Moon

Unread postby moses » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:25 pm

How did the Earth capture the Moon. Let's propose that both bodies were in elliptical orbits around the Sun with different speeds. Then from the Earth the Moon would appear to grow or come closer with a quarter Moon. As the Moon passed Earth then the Moon would become a full Moon or a new Moon depending upon which side of the Earth from the Sun it went past.

However as the Moon neared the Earth thunderbolts would pass between them. This might well impair the visuals of this full Moon or new Moon. The thunderbolt would also serve to lessen the speed difference between the two bodies possibly by altering their trajectories, so that in the next conjunction the two speeds might be so similar that the two bodies can gravitationally get together in an elliptical configuration so eventually they form today's state after many corrective thunderbolts or just electric currents between the two bodies.

If so then we would expect stories or myths that describe the above. Now it would be difficult to separate these stories from stories from the previous stable configuration of planets, usually considered a Saturn System. And, of course, this represents a division in our local thinking on this question of Earth's history, the other major division being that the planets were not in random orbits at all. Clear thinking is required.
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