I agree with your assessment of the canopy makeup. It wasn't water. Yet the movement of planetary orbits isn't necessary. Even now the magneto-tail of Venus often reaches close to Earth. A large enough event from the sun could have traveled through the solar system, planet to planet wreaking havoc. What evidence is there for small star that stopped shining and turned into a ball of super cold gases? That would be harder to explain than the current star formation theory. We would need the Earth to be very close to a smaller star, if I am getting it right, then the current sun appear somehow?JP Michael wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:56 pm@Yogi
Not all creation scientists even accept the traditional version of 'canopy' theory, namely those versions popularised by Kent Hovind and Henry Morris I, that a 'canopy' of water encircled the earth which later collapsed to be one of the two contributing mechanisms of the global flood in Noah's time. Furthermore, the 'canopy' theory finds an interesting parallel in the theories set forth by Wallace Thornill and Dwardu Cardona that the earlier orbit (or if you don't agree with orbit, coaxial rotation) of Earth within the plasmasphere of our first sun, Saturn, would have resulted in abundant, global warmth with a 'mist watering the whole world' (cf. Genesis 2:6). That this is no longer the case indicates that the Earth has changed suns, to which the testimony of ancient history and mythology agrees!
I agree that the planets have 'canopies' but I define this according to modern plasma physics, that is, plasmaspheres. Where Velikovsky plays a crucial role is the initial development of the hypothesis that these planetary plasmaspheres came into contact, 'Worlds in Collision', with one another in the past causing all manner of horrendous disasters throughout human history. These disasters were often interpreted locally and culturally as the handiwork of the regional gods, the gods being the planet-actors responsible for bringing the fury of their wrath upon the Earth. Hence the rich and vibrant accounts of catastrophism throughout the annals of world mythology. It is my belief that the Hebrew account stands alone in that most of its descriptions do not have the fantastical interpretive elements of other world mythologies, preserving what is the genuine history of the world. Yet I also believe that the Bible's record of earth history is far from comprehensive, thus allowing us to explore evidence left for us in world mythology in order to attempt to reconstruct the entire picture of Earth's catastrophic past.
Most creation science ignores at best or rejects uncritically at worst, not only plasma cosmology but also the idea that planetary plasmaspheric collisions were the major overarching mechanism for not only Noah's flood, but all manner of smaller catastrophes that occured after the flood as recorded wordwide in various mythologies. That is a serious deficiency in creationist thinking that this thread was initially started to discuss in all its interlocking strands of evidence.
Yes there are many catastrophe stories from ancient times. I am pretty sure there over 250 that refer to the great flood, with one of them from the American southwest-before having met Europeans- telling of eight people on a great raft (Noah and family) saving the animals from the great flood after a time of plenteous food and animals with no fear of people.