Did a country-sized UFO hover above Switzerland last month?

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Did a country-sized UFO hover above Switzerland last month?

Post by Tone » Sat May 02, 2009 5:28 am

Hey guys, could this be explained by an 'Electric Universe'?
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page6756758.php

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Re: Did a country-sized UFO hover above Switzerland last month?

Post by GaryN » Sat May 02, 2009 1:00 pm

I think it CAN be explained by the EU. Switzerland has high, pointy mountains, the peaks of which will offer up a concentrated supply of electrons. As with the lenticular clouds often seen over mountains, the water atoms will electrolytically fixate into molecules when a charge (temperature) difference of sufficient magnitude exists.
Swizerland did have a 2.2 mag. quake on the 26th, not big, but maybe there is a connection to the electron flow?
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Might as well see the image:

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Re: Did a country-sized UFO hover above Switzerland last month?

Post by mague » Mon May 04, 2009 10:06 pm

Very funny :D

Why is nobody thinking that the LHC has something to do with it ?

Otherwise the center of the circle is located at the Vierwaldstaetter See (Lake Lucerne), which is the center of swiss freedom and national awareness ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%BCtlischwur

Coincidence over coincidence.. :P Spiritual energy does not exist, neither does god :D

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Re: Did a country-sized UFO hover above Switzerland last month?

Post by solrey » Mon May 04, 2009 10:29 pm

GaryN, was the epicenter of that quake on the 26th in the vicinity of the center of the circle? If so, there's your answer.
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Re: Did a country-sized UFO hover above Switzerland last month?

Post by mague » Mon May 04, 2009 11:44 pm

solrey wrote:GaryN, was the epicenter of that quake on the 26th in the vicinity of the center of the circle? If so, there's your answer.
No, the 2.2 was at the border to france. Actually it was in france. Thats a few hundred km south-west.

http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpu ... _list.html
http://www.mapplus.ch/frame.php?map=&x=563083&y=94472

As you can see 1.5 to 2.7 happens almost once a week. They all happen in the high alpine regions to the south and are "common".

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Post by solrey » Tue May 05, 2009 8:14 am

Actually I meant hypocenter, which isn't necessarily right below the epicenter. I was also thinking, after posting and shutting down the 'puter for the night, that the ring pattern might be a precursor to a stronger quake in the coming days. 2.2 didn't seem strong enough to produce a precursive, ionized toroid. I was thinking about the data that Friedeman Freund collected on the EM field in the atmosphere prior to a ~3 mag. quake near San Francisco. It got me wondering if the quake hasn't happened yet. I also realized that the quake would probably happen somewhere within the circle, not necessarily centered on it, probably in the area around the circumference of one of the two circles, maybe even between them.
Basically, I was expecting a quake stronger than the typical <3 mag. quakes that happen on a regular basis.
So I got online this morning with the intention of checking Swiss seismic activity. What did I find?
A mag. 4.3 quake happened today in the vicinity of the northwest corner of the circumference of the inner ring.

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http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/

I notice that there is a somewhat circular pattern to the recent quakes in Switzerland, slightly offset to the west relative to the atmospheric toroids.
Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. :P
I wonder what Freund would think of this.
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Re: Did a country-sized UFO hover above Switzerland last month?

Post by Joe Keenan » Tue May 05, 2009 1:58 pm

No!

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Re: Did a country-sized UFO hover above Switzerland last month?

Post by solrey » Tue May 05, 2009 5:48 pm

I guess I messed up in the previous post with that image.
This is a map of recent ( don't know time frames ) earthquakes in Switzerland:
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The axis of the discharge column is probably tilted, or drifting, resulting in the offset between the center of the atmospheric effect and the center of the recent quake epicenters.
Possible diocotron instabilities, around a dark mode discharge vortex, coinciding with the epicenters of recent quakes?
Oohhh yeah. :o
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Re: Did a country-sized UFO hover above Switzerland last month?

Post by solrey » Tue May 05, 2009 5:49 pm

The big red circle is the epicenter of the mag. 4+ that happened today.
Forgot to mention that in my zeal. :lol:
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Re: Did a country-sized UFO hover above Switzerland last month?

Post by solrey » Wed May 27, 2009 9:40 am

More evidence of possible discharge vortices, evidenced by a circular pattern, in a different context.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/ ... pest-lake/

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Astronauts aboard the International Space Station noticed two mysterious dark circles in the ice of Russia’s Lake Baikal in April. Though the cause is more likely aqueous than alien, some aspects of the odd blemishes defy explanation.

The two circles are the focal points for ice break-up and may be caused by upwelling of warmer water in the lake. The dark color of the circles is due to thinning of the ice, which usually hangs around into June. Upwelling wouldn’t be strange in some relatively shallow areas of the lake where hydrothermal activity has been detected, such as where the circle near the center of the lake (pictured below) is located. Circles have been seen in that area before in 1985 and 1994, though they weren’t nearly as pronounced. But the location of the circle near the southern tip of the lake (pictured above) where water is relatively deep and cold is puzzling.
Perhaps evidence for the cause lies within the context of "space tornadoes".

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... roras.html

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Indeed, magnetometers across North America confirmed that auroral events happened about a minute after THEMIS registered the formation of vortices in the magnetotail. Also, the auroras moved towards the poles in pairs, mirroring the paired vortices in space.
Here's a donut shaped crater on the moon.

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Evidence of electric discharge vortices are being detected everywhere these days, it seems. 8-)
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