Using Magnetic sails to go to a diffrent star.

[tangointhenight]

I wonder if this is possible. If someone has a magnetic field could they accelerate using the suns magnetosphere? I wonder how fast you would go?

The spacecraft could deploy tethers to produce electricity. And it would have four nuclear reactors on board, to power the entire spacecraft.
Wonder if its possible, use the suns magnetic field to move through space?

Would be fun.

[redeye]

I wonder if this is possible. If someone has a magnetic field could they accelerate using the suns magnetosphere? I wonder how fast you would go?

The spacecraft could deploy tethers to produce electricity. And it would have four nuclear reactors on board, to power the entire spacecraft.
Wonder if its possible, use the suns magnetic field to move through space?

Would be fun.
I wonder if this is possible. If someone has a magnetic field could they accelerate using the suns magnetosphere? I wonder how fast you would go?

The spacecraft could deploy tethers to produce electricity. And it would have four nuclear reactors on board, to power the entire spacecraft.
Wonder if its possible, use the suns magnetic field to move through space?

Would be fun.

How about producing your own magnetic fields to create an artificial "z pinch" to induce acceleration. I reckon you could go pretty fast, although I'm not sure if you would want to go all that fast as your spaceship may come under too much electrical stress and become a comet.

Not sure how you would achieve any of this...or if would even work!

Cheers!

[Influx]

Not sure how you would achieve any of this...or if would even work!

You'll need the evolver!

[junglelord]

This might work
http://www.linux-host.org/energy/ufogravity.htm

[redeye]

This might work
http://www.linux-host.org/energy/ufogravity.htm

That is eerily close to what I was thinking. Cool find. Interesting that the vast majority of UFO's sightings seem to describe electromagnetic effects. It's maybe just a throwback to the time of Tesla when electricity seemed to offer the answer to everything. Or maybe it's because electromagnetics really do hold the answer to everything. Heh Heh

Cheers!

[junglelord]

It seems clear to me that the positive charge creates a gravity well, a negitive charge, a gravity hill.
Counter rotating magnetic fields will also cause a bending of the gravity field. The two effects are both varifiable, aka TT Brown and the German Bell.

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/ppotfig4.gif

[junglelord]

Here is a good paper from 1952, in which it is declared that there are only three forces, electricity, magnatism, gravity.
I have been saying that since APM taught me how to properly understand EM and ES charge.

TT Brown knew that ELECTROGRAVITATION is real and that the strong nuclear force was a fantasy.
EM holds the nucleus together. Concerning ES Charge, the positive charge is a gravity well. The negitive charge is a gravity hill.

The scientist and layman alike encounter a primary difficulty in understanding the Biefeld-Brown effect and it’s relation to the solution of the flying saucer mystery.

A proper interpretation of this theory is prevented because both scientist and layman are conditioned to think in electromagnetic concepts, whereas the Biefeld-Brown effect relates to electrogravitation.

Their lack of awareness is justifiable, however, because the data on electrogravitation, inasmuch as it is a comparatively recent and unpublished development, has limited availability and circulation. Townsend Brown, the discoverer of electrogravitational coupling, is the only known experimental scientist in this new area of scientific development as of this writing. Thus, anyone wanting to understand electrogravitation and its applications to astronautics must dismiss the principles of electromagnetics in order to grasp the essentially different principles of electrogravitation. Electrogravitational effects do not obey the known principles of electromagnetism. Electrogravitation must be understood as an entirely new field of scientific investigation and technical development.

The most efficient method of effecting an understanding of electrogravitation is to review the evolutionary development of electromagnetism.

From the smallest atom to the largest galaxy, the universe operates on three basic forces, namely Electricity, Magnetism and Gravitation. These forces can be represented as follows:

Figure 1 - Three Forces:


Taken separately, these forces are of no real practical use. Electricity by itself is static electricity and therefore functionless. It will make your hair stand on end, but that is about all.

Magnetism by itself has very few practical applications aside from the magnetic compass, and gravity simply keeps objects and people pinned to the earth.

However, when they are used to work in combination with each other, almost endless technical applications come into being. Currently, our total electrical development is based on the coupling of electricity with magnetism, which provides the basis for the countless uses we make of electricity in modern societies.

Faraday conducted the first productive empirical experiment with electromagnetism around 1830, and Maxwell did the basic theoretical work in 1865.

The application of electromagnetism to microscopic and sub-microscopic particles was accomplished by Max Planck’s work in quantum physics about 1890; and then in 1905 Einstein came forward with relativity, which dealt with gravitation as applied to celestial bodies and universal mechanics.

It is principally out of the work of these four great scientists that our electrical developments, ranging from the simple lightbulb to the complexities of nuclear physics, have emerged.

In 1923, Dr. Biefeld, Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Dennison University and a former classmate of Einstein in Switzerland, suggested to his protoge, Townsend Brown, certain experiments which led to the discovery of the Biefeld-Brown effect, and ultimately to the electrogravitational energy spectrum.

In actuality, it was Brown who first observed the effect and brought it to the attention of Dr. Biefeld, who suggest further experiments to determine the origin of and enhance the effect. Biefeld wondered if an electrical condenser, hung by a thread, would have a tendency to move when it was given a heavy electrical charge. Townsend Brown provided the answer. There is such a tendency.

After 28 years of investigation by Brown into the coupling effect between electricity and gravitation, it was found that for each electromagnetic phenomenon there exists an electrogravitational analogue. This means, from the technical and commercial viewpoint, potentialities for future development and exploitation are as great or greater than the present electrical industry. When one considers that electromagnetism is basic to the telephone, telegraph, radio, television, radar, electric generators and motors, power production and distribution, and is an indispensable adjunct to transportation of all kinds, one can see that the possibility of a parallel, but different development in electrogravitation has almost unlimited prospects.

The initial experiments conducted by Townsend Brown, concerning the behavior of a condenser when charged with electricity, had the characteristic of simplicity which has marked most other great scientific advancements.

The first startling revelation was that if placed in free suspension with the poles horizontal, the condenser, when charged, exhibited a forward thrust toward the positive poles. A reversal of polarity caused a reversal of the direction of thrust. The experiment was set up as follows:

Figure 2 - Biefeld-Brown Effect:


The antigravity effect of vertical thrust is demonstrated by balancing a condenser on a beam balance and then charging it. After charging, if the positive pole is pointed upward, the condenser moves up.
If the charge is reversed and the positive pole pointed downward, the condenser thrusts down. The experiment is conducted as shown here:

Figure 3 - Balance Experiment:


These two simple experiments demonstrate what is now known as the Biefeld-Brown effect. It is the first and, to the best of our knowledge, the only method of affecting a gravitational field by electrical means. It contains the seeds of control of gravity by man. The intensity of the effects is determined by five factors, which are:

1. The separation of the plates of the condenser, the closer the plates, the greater the effect.

2. The ability of the material between the plates to store the electrical energy in the form of elastic stress. A measure of this ability is called the "K" of the material. The higher the "K," the greater the Biefeld-Brown effect.

3. The area of the plates, the greater the area giving the greater effect.

4. The voltage difference between the plates; more voltage, more effect.

5. The mass of the material between the plates; the greater the mass [atomic mass], the greater the effect.

It is this fifth point which is inexplicable from the electromagnetic viewpoint and which provides the connection with gravitation.

On the basis of further experimental work from 1923 to 1926; Townsend Brown in 1926, described what he called a "space car." This was a revolutionary method of terrestrial and extra-terrestrial flight, presented for experiment while motor propelled planes were yet in a primitive stage.

This engineering feat by Townsend Brown was all the more remarkable when we consider such a machine produces thrust with no moving parts, does not use any aerodynamic principles of flight, and has neither control surfaces, or a propeller.

Townsend Brown had discovered the secret of how the flying saucers fly years before and such objects were reported.

Now the basic differences between electromagnetism and electrogravity have been described and the basic principles of the Biefeld-Brown effect have been outlined, we are finally ready to understand the principles of astronautics or the conquest of space.

The earth creates and is surrounded with a gravitational field which approaches zero as we go far into space. This field presses objects and people to the earth’s surface; hence it presses a saucer object to the earth.

However, through the utilization of the Biefeld-Brown effect, the flying saucer can generate an electrogravitational field of its own which modifies the earth’s field.

This field acts like a wave, with the negative pole at the top of the wave and the positive pole at the bottom, the saucer travels like a surfboard on the incline of a wave that is kept continuously moving by the saucer’s electrogravitational generator.

Since the orientation of the field can be controlled, the saucer can thus travel on its own continuously generated wave in any desired angle or direction of flight.

Since the saucer always moves towards its positive pole, the control of the saucer is accomplished by varying the orientation of the positive charge. Control, therefore, is gained by switching charges rather than by the control surfaces. Since the saucer is traveling on the incline of a continually moving wave which it generates to modify the earth’s gravitational field, no mechanical propulsion is necessary.
http://www.linux-host.org/energy/rose.htm

[junglelord]

The Four Great Primary Forces Are; static magnetic field; electrostatic field; electro-magnetic wave; resonating electromagnetic field. Your scientists do not understand the last one mentioned.¹


You are familiar enough with electrodynamics to know that a moving electron creates a magnetic field. The tremendous surge of electrons through the force-rings produces a very strong magnetic field. Since the direction and amplitude of flow can be controlled through either ring, and in several paths through a ‘single’ ring, we can produce a field which oscillates in a pattern of precisely controlled modes. In this way we can create magnetic resonance between the two rings, or between several segments of a single ring.

As you also know, any magnetic field which is changing in intensity will create an electric field which, at any given instant, is equal in amplitude, opposite in sign, and perpendicular to the magnetic field. If the two fields become mutually resonant, a vector force will be generated. The effect is similar to, and in effect identical with, a gravitational field.

If the center of the field coincides with the craft’s center of gravity, its only effect will be to increase the inertia or mass of the craft. If the center of gravity does not coincide with the center of force, the craft will begin to accelerate towards that center.

Since the system which creates the field is part of the ship, it will of course move with the ship, and without interruption it will continue to generate a field whose center of attraction is just ahead of the ship’s center of gravity, so the ship will continue to accelerate as long as the field is generated. Note that this system does not involve free energy or what your people refer to as perpetual motion.To slow or stop the craft, the controls are adjusted so that the field is generated just behind the center of gravity so that negative acceleration will result.²

[Quote ¹ is from "The Saucers Speak" and "Other Tongues – Other Flesh" (p48) by George Hunt Williamson; and quote ² is from "The White Sands Incident" by Daniel Fry . Also see Nexus Magazine Apr-May 97 p38]

The above description while differing slightly from Bob Lazar’s stretched rubber concept (see "Alien Contact" (1993) Timothy Good p183), is a more accurate explanation of the propulsion method used by the ufos filmed above Mexico city recently. The film clearly shows a path of energy being directed ahead of the ufo and the ufo snapping to the forward end of it at incredible speed.

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/greatprimary.htm