Radio Waves Cause Gravity

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Radio Waves Cause Gravity

Unread postby Lloyd » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:47 pm

On "Why the Big Bang is Wrong" at http://www.angelfire.com/az/BIGBANGisWRONG/ I just listened to Kierein's old series of videos from 1981, I think, at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywu8cVgRpwE . This is one of the them at this link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxAMZbDaYO8 , in which he said Grote Reber, in the 60s I think, studied long wavelength radiation (144m I think) & made a contour map of the sky based on brightness of that radiation. The map shows the most radiation coming from many directions equivalent to 3 million some degress Kelvin, if I heard him right. But there's a dim spot on the map which is toward the galactic center. So the radiation is absorbed somewhat by galaxies, apparently.

Then in the final video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tydjwkL0KrQ , he explains that gravity seems to be caused by long wavelength radiation, which is able to penetrate entire galaxies, but comes out the other side weakened. He also said before that that the radiation may increase the mass of subatomic particles in space, because it surrounds them, so they can't emit much of it, so it transforms into mass.

So, in that old series of videos, Kierein explains that redshift is due to the Compton effect, wherein electrons in space cause light to lose energy (meaning redshift is not due to a Doppler effect from a Big Bang Expanding Universe), then that long-wave radiation is very "bright" in space, that it causes particles in space to increase mass, and it causes gravity, which this recent article says has the same velocity as light, i.e. c: http://www.sciencealert.com/speed-of-gravitational-waves-and-light-same
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Re: Radio Waves Cause Gravity

Unread postby Lloyd » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:14 pm

The OP really deserved some thoughtful comments.
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Re: Radio Waves Cause Gravity

Unread postby MerLynn » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:29 pm

There are two words that have completely lead human theorists down the garden path.

Gravity and electrons.

Such misunderstood functions of the natural universe could be described and believed by such theories and peddled as 'facts''?

The OP relies heavily upon these misconceptions about the nature of the Magnetic Universe.

nuf said
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Re: Radio Waves Cause Gravity

Unread postby kevin » Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:17 am

IMHO,
There is no such force called gravity.

I for one would discuss what causes the obvious net inward attraction about this planet, that is relative to this planet, and will vary on each other planet/moon/stars etc even to be net outward attraction on stars.

This is an electric/magnetic universe, not a gravity universe.

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Re: Radio Waves Cause Gravity

Unread postby seasmith » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:33 pm

Lloyd wrote:
But there's a dim spot on the map which is toward the galactic center. So the radiation is absorbed somewhat by galaxies, apparently.

Maybe that Center is where there are no galaxies ?


kevin wrote:IMHO,
There is no such force called gravity.
I for one would discuss what causes the obvious net inward attraction about this planet, that is relative to this planet, and will vary on each other planet/moon/stars etc even to be net outward attraction on stars.

This is an electric/magnetic universe, not a gravity universe.
Kevin


Well, the cosmos is obviously E/M; the Universe may be a bit more complicated.
If our observable cosmos is EM, light is clearly the dispersive element (of fundamental charge) and i would posit gravity as the return, somewhat like the 'ground' (earth to the Brits) is the return element in a common macro-electric circuit.
Mass/matter and aether could be viewed as the "gate terminals", in transistor terminology.
If there is order and motion attributable to cosmos, that may be the 5-6 axies, sustaining the 'heavens' and earths.
Image
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kikuchi_line

The seventh veil mentioned by all the seven sages from time immemorial and the 'infinite' ∞8∞,
i would guess are about universal-metaphysical stuff like consciousness and spirit, and far far beyond my ken.
However that does cover Mr. Merlynn's allusion to the cubic big eight, though he hasn't exactly squared the cicle or circled the square for us.

Thus Kevin is right on, as usual.
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Re: Radio Waves Cause Gravity

Unread postby kevin » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:48 am

Seasmith,

Wonderful post.

I have little electrical backgrounding, or magnetic backgrounding ( playing a bit on the "ground " there)
What I try to convey is that which I observe personally.
Having personally experienced variations in my own response to so called gravity, after been displaced in location and actually hovering above ground, I am bound to be driven to find out the truth.
this forum and it's content and posters are helping , My grateful everlasting thanks to all who contribute.

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